Whenever a song by that clique of bay area rappers came on Rap City it was channel switch on sight

[mobbinfms]

Chicago does. Detroit does. DC does. Miami does. ATL does. Baltimore does. New Orleans does. It's just strange. Those areas also put out shyt everybody liked everywhere.

I need receipts for regional sounding artists from Chicago, Baltimore, DC and Detroit putting out shyt everyone liked.

 

[mobbinfms]

I'm talking about NOW.
who listens to bay area now besides y'all...kansas nikkas, and people in akron? Nobody needs receipts for that, it's known. Bay to kc pipeline...and some akron nikkas fukk w/ it, too....because of Ampichino, an akron nikka.

I don't know breh. I haven't listened to Bay shyt since the mid 90s
I'm talking about the 90s.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Bmore club music is international now.
jersey jacked it...it's part of Dance music culture and spread outside of the baltimore area into the northern new jersey metro, 2-3 hrs away.
mind you, the east coast isn't like the west coast at all...

If anything the same thing happened with Hyphy music and its dance, the Jerk movement in LA jacked a lot of its moves and beats from turfin/hyphy and made it international.

 

[mobbinfms]

there are very few...and majority black meaning no gentrification. detroit level blackness doesn't exist anywhere in cali, neighborhood or city wise.

Agreed about Detroit.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

VA rapper skills contributed ghostwriting to many songs like VA rapper nickelus f helped drake out.
Bay area rappers sell records to bay area people, kc weirdos, and a few people in akron, ohio.

You're just in here saying anything now

 

[Doomsday]

15 years ago when Hyphy was popping off blacks were the largest plurality in oakland at 35% of the population.

Still 65% non-black and integrated.

Prove it then, point to the Hip Hop culture emanating out of Baltimore. Point to the thriving Hip Hop dance culture in Baltimore, point to the thriving Hip Hop music culture in Baltimore.

One of the biggest new artists out is from there:

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Are you from New York? Care to speak on why the VAST majority of "black" New York rappers and DJs are Dominican/Jamaican/Trinidadian/Puerto Rican? Again, why is it that huge sections of the black diaspora (especially in the South) have little to nothing invested in Hip Hop but every major urban center in America does?

NY used to be segregated but now that's changing. Because of NY being a melting pot demographically and NY controlling 45% of the media, it allows other people to exploit and infiltrate the culture who otherwise don't belong there. Think about it: Take away the media and what are you left with? Real life. So, by real life standards, how much "Hip Hop" or "Urban" or "Black culture" are you going to absorb in a 6% black environment?

How much more would Baltimore get being in closer proximity to NY and being 60% percent black? A lot more than the SFBA-- which is still true once you get that real life experience. Your taking media brainwashing to look at things one way, instead of the other way. Hip Hop culture, is larger wherever there is the real demographic that houses it, all that other stuff is huff. Take away the media and all that "urban" bay area talk wouldn't exist. The skitzophrenia is due to the media, that's why you got DJ Evny saying he's "black".

The last time I was in North Philly I saw well-off white people biking up and down N. Broad Street and I don't mean the poor white Kensington natives. What's your point?

This part of the discussion was about poverty and crime. Poverty and crime isn't an issue in the SFBA. The SFBA is the richest area in the country and probably one of the thriving in the world period. Poverty, by contrast, would be the lowest there. Crime is also not an issue in the SFBA compared to everywhere else in the country. Which is why I said what I said. I've been to all those places you mentioned and they are all tame. By SFBA standards they are bad areas, but that just goes to show how rich and safe the SFBA is as a whole.​

 

[Ronnie Lott]

It doesn't. The media just tells you that it does. You're using the media to help your argument. Go to Baltimore and it's no question a bigger hip hop and culture scene.



WTF! You're off something serious. Hip Hop did originate with us don't let the media lie to you. Other races would throw rocks at radio Raheem in real life.



Bullshyt. The SFBA is the richest area in the country. Poverty and crime in the SFBA is a myth. In reality all of the negative numbers are low and the positive numbers are high.

Y'all nikkaz are just making shyt up now

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Still 65% non-black and integrated.



One of the biggest new artists out is from there:

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NY used to be segregated but now that's changing. Because of NY being a melting pot demographically and NY controlling 45% of the media, it allows other people to exploit and infiltrate the culture who otherwise don't belong there. Think about it: Take away the media and what are you left with? Real life. So, by real life standards, how much "Hip Hop" or "Urban" or "Black culture" are you going to absorb in a 6% black environment?

How much more would Baltimore get being in closer proximity to NY and being 60% percent black? A lot more than the SFBA-- which is still true once you get that real life experience. Your taking media brainwashing to look at things one way, instead of the other way. Hip Hop culture, is larger wherever there is the real demographic that houses it, all that other stuff is huff. Take away the media and all that "urban" bay area talk wouldn't exist. The skitzophrenia is due to the media, that's why you got DJ Evny saying he's "black".

This part of the discussion was about poverty and crime. Poverty and crime isn't an issue in the SFBA. The SFBA is the richest area in the country and probably one of the thriving in the world period. Poverty, by contrast, would be the lowest there. Crime is also not an issue in the SFBA compared to everywhere else in the country. Which is why I said what I said. I've been to all those places you mentioned and they are all tame. By SFBA standards they are bad areas, but that just goes to show how rich and safe the SFBA is as a whole.​

Don't nobody know king Los like that

nikkaz in b more don't even fukk with that nikka like that

 

[Doomsday]

So you're saying there are no neighborhoods in Oakland and Richmond that are majority black today? That's what you mean by integrated?

The mentality of the environment is integrated yes. I don't believe there are many, if any, majority black neighborhoods left in the SFBA because the culture is to integrate. Chicago, for example used to be majority and now it's minority, HOWEVER, the segregation of black culture makes a better black experience. If you go to school in south side you more than likely get an HBCU-like grade school environment.

 

[Doomsday]

Y'all nikkaz are just making shyt up now

It's a myth that either is high enough to talk about, especially in comparison to others.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Such a haterish thread.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

It's a myth that either is high enough to talk about, especially in comparison to others.

Bro. You just made up some bullshyt
You can't tell me what doesn't go on out here and you don't live here

 

[Doomsday]

Don't nobody know king Los like that

nikkaz in b more don't even fukk with that nikka like that

Yeah ok, that's why rappers like Ludacris and T.I said he was one of the best new rappers out, and he has a song placement on one of the most played video games every year (Madden). He's been interviewed on every platform (Breakfast Club, Hot 97, Sway, ect.), yet nobody knows him. Ok. You know who he is, but "nobody" knows him. Lol.

Bro. You just made up some bullshyt
You can't tell me what doesn't go on out here and you don't live here

I don't need you to tell me what goes on. I have my own eyes and numbers don't lie.

 

[Still Benefited]

What the fukk happened to this thread?I came back and you got nikkas tryna use analytics to figure this shyt out now,nikkas talkin bout bay area hiphop is a conspiracy created by cacs

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

One of the biggest new artists out is from there:

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nikka Los aint new, that nikka been trying to get on for 14+ years. YOU are starting to sound brand new though

NY used to be segregated but now that's changing. Because of NY being a melting pot demographically and NY controlling 45% of the media, it allows other people to exploit and infiltrate the culture who otherwise don't belong there. Think about it: Take away the media and what are you left with? Real life. So, by real life standards, how much "Hip Hop" or "Urban" or "Black culture" are you going to absorb in a 6% black environment?

How much more would Baltimore get being in closer proximity to NY and being 60% percent black? A lot more than the SFBA-- which is still true once you get that real life experience. Your taking media brainwashing to look at things one way, instead of the other way. Hip Hop culture, is larger wherever there is the real demographic that houses it, all that other stuff is huff. Take away the media and all that "urban" bay area talk wouldn't exist. The skitzophrenia is due to the media, that's why you got DJ Evny saying he's "black".​

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Black culture and Hip Hop culture are not one and the same. If it was, it wouldn't have been started by the population that started it. Period.

This part of the discussion was about poverty and crime. Poverty and crime isn't an issue in the SFBA. The SFBA is the richest area in the country and probably one of the thriving in the world period. Poverty, by contrast, would be the lowest there. Crime is also not an issue in the SFBA compared to everywhere else in the country. Which is why I said what I said. I've been to all those places you mentioned and they are all tame. By SFBA standards they are bad areas, but that just goes to show how rich and safe the SFBA is as a whole.

nikka please.

San Francisco becoming a rich enclave is a process that started in the late 90s, Frisco was like every other American urban center at the time. White folks had their corner of the city and we had our corner. Our corner was one of the poorest and highest crime black urban centers in the United States of America... Bayview/Visitacion Valley/Potrero Hill/Lakeview/Fillmore/Mission District were all crazy. You clearly were never here before the towers (Bernal Dwellings, Geneva Towers, North Beach Place, etc.) were torn down throughout the City... gentrification's been ongoing for the last 25 years, consider yourself lucky you're seeing Frisco at its most gentrified point in history ever. 15 years ago nobody with half a brain slid through the point unless they had family there... Now you get white people commuting to downtown on the new T line from their condos on the bottom of 3rd.

Oakland's gentrification has been accelerated dramatically by SF's. As someone who grew up in Oakland I've seen the change take place over the last decade and a half myself.

Your whole viewpoint is seriously delusional though. Gentrification is hitting EVERY urban center in the country from Philly to DC. DC now is literally unrecognizable from even 7 years ago, the uptown of the 90s literally doesn't exist. Your comments about the Bay Area ain't exactly "wrong" per say but you got a serious chip on your shoulder.