When was lil Wayne actually nice?

[Doctor Wily]

I always thought Turk was better back then.


Anyways it seems like I blinked (2005~2008) & poof he was the hottest rapper out

 

[William Bassington]

i dont see how he fell off after C2...were Drought 3 and No Ceilings not fire?...even C3 was considered a dope album to everyone not posting on messageboards...but I guess im supposed to pretend he was garbage

 

[RTF]

The flow. Listen to the flow on Hollywood Divorce, Shooter, Scarface, 3Peat... butter. He used to pile rhymes on top of each other now He's slowed it down and lost it's flexibility. He's LH status now.


In '07 I would've come with examples of why he can be nice but i'm not going to bother now. If you never liked Wayne why waste your time trying to figure this out? It's common consensus he's fallen off for a reason, if you don't understand it's not for you.

 

[RTF]

C3 was loved by critics, sold a lot, had multiple hits. Truly this is only a bad album on the internet. C3 was dope. No Ceilings wasn't as good as D2 or C3 Leaks but still very good. From there.........

 

[The Jewnited States]

C3 was loved by critics, sold a lot, had multiple hits. Truly this is only a bad album on the internet. C3 was dope. No Ceilings wasn't as good as D2 or C3 Leaks but still very good. From there.........

it's a bad album on the "internet" because everyone on the internet on hiphop message boards has access to more music and thus shyt that's probably better than what the average joe comes across on the radio.

 

[Shugg84]

Back in the day, down here in Louweezyana, we used to wait for his part of the song to come on when he was featured...now..we dont even claim him

 

[William Bassington]

it's a bad album on the "internet" because everyone on the internet on hiphop message boards has access to more music and thus shyt that's probably better than what the average joe comes across on the radio.

or maybe the internet is comprised of hating ass nikkas....there was a 'Nas Lost' movement for crying out loud

 

[The Jewnited States]

or maybe the internet is comprised of hating ass nikkas....there was a 'Nas Lost' movement for crying out loud

no one takes those idiots seriously. C3 was really not THAT good, coming on the heels of C1, C2 and all those mixtapes. i just think the expectations were too high. to say it was a GOOD/GREAT album though? nahhhhhhhhhhh


every wayne album/mixtape has a lot of filler songs, and for that reason i will never say he had the best run

 

[iamduval]

always could rap. carter 1 - dedication 2 is his peak

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

Cant have a reg discussion without cats getting mad?….some of yall nikkaz get so mad when your favorite rappers get dissed. These rap nikkaz don’t kno you b

excellent thread....wayne really overated.......pretty much the cartoon version of rapp.........i noticed if a rapper says soomething his stans run with it like its reality look at rick ross...wayne start sayingg he was the best alive and the stans ate it up

 

[AbrahamLincolnPawgHunter]

He was nice way back in the Hot Boys days...but never got his due, because of bias against southern rap and other issues...songs like Block is Hot and Get Off The Corner, were technically and lyrically proficient and well written songs...For instance, if Meek Mill were to release Get Off the Corner tomorrow, word for word...it'd be considered dopeness

Lil' Wayne - Get Off The Corner (HQ / Dirty) - YouTube

But people will just dismiss that entire era as "wobbly wobbly" nonsense because in rap it's not about reality as much as perception..and wayne wasn't perceived as an act to take serious or cool to like back then...by the time he started making the Sqad tapes he was an absolute beast, and that's when it went from being "the hot boy with the most potential" to "yo...this lil niqqa is a problem" and started building what became his core mixtape fanbase

Lil Wayne - best of me freestyles - YouTube

Lil Wayne - what happen to that boy freestyle - YouTube

The post sqad era started with the Prefix and the was beginning of the run that ultimately catapulted him to the top of the game, and literally has more dope shyt than can prolly even be accurately listed...but from '03 to like '07 dude was in a ridiculous zone...he had mastered the stream of consciousness style and had the perfect match of straight spitting, stylistic flair, flow and charisma

Lil Wayne - Moment Of Clarity Freestyle - YouTube

Lil Wayne - PSA Freestyle - YouTube

BM J.R. - Lil Wayne - YouTube

LIl Wayne - Dedication Intro - YouTube

Lil' Wayne - BM J.R. Part 2 - Tha Carter 2.5 - YouTube

Lil Wayne - Problem Solver (Gillie diss) - YouTube

Lil' Wayne - Shorty Bounce (Full Explicit Version) - YouTube

Tha Mobb - Lil Wayne - YouTube

Lil Wayne - Get 'Em (Dedication 2) - YouTube

Late '07 his style became more drugged influenced and eccentric which lead into the drought 3 era...and sometime in there the Carter 3 sessions (which had some of his best material)...most of wayne's new era fans caught on around here... by the time he re-recorded Carter 3 his peak was already passed, still put out a lot of dope stuff from that point on, but wasn't in the zone he was during his prime...it was also the height of his career, he became a popstar and biggest name in hip hop, received the obligatory backlash, became the most hated rapper on the internet and the personification of all that is evil and unjust in the world (see: the comments section of every semi-rap related
video on youtube)...essentially what John Cena is to the IWC, Wayne became to the IRC...got burned out from the insane output that shot him to the top of the rap game, and now largely raps like he's bored and completely uninspired...and lot of his stuff now sounds like it's made in some kind of formulaic template...the great shame of it all, is that he's so hated now it'll cloud how genuinely dope he was when he was in his prime...he doesn't get the rose colored nostalgia that's afforded his peers from the late 90's (juvi, bg, and even Turk will get fondly talked about online now like they were young southern nas's) because people are too invested into hating him now

speechless. this post crushed the buildings.

i dont get how ppl act like Wayne was never DOPE.

if u dont like him, then say it. but stop tryna act like he was never dope

 

[AbrahamLincolnPawgHunter]

it's a bad album on the "internet" because everyone on the internet on hiphop message boards has access to more music and thus shyt that's probably better than what the average joe comes across on the radio.

EVERYONE offline has the saame access. youtube, datpiff etc...

even hood niccas with no computers get the latest music from the bootleg man

of course, us internet heads catch on to new niccas faster, ie Chief Keef, SAP but eventually everyone will hear them

 

[The Jewnited States]

EVERYONE offline has the saame access. youtube, datpiff etc...

even hood niccas with no computers get the latest music from the bootleg man

of course, us internet heads catch on to new niccas faster, ie Chief Keef, SAP but eventually everyone will hear them

you know damn well i'm talking about the more underground shyt. stuff like this:

http://www.steadybloggin.com/

those people don't every really get mentioned in the BIG blogs (2dopeboyz, hotnewhiphop, etc)


therefore most casual internet users won't find it. how do you think the radio stations are still getting away with playing the same ol bullshyt?

 

[Izanami]

I remember he was saying he was the best rapper since the best rapper retired and simple minded fukks ran with it

Dude was cool before Carter III but now he just a joke. It was sad to legends like Jay, Em and Nas cater to him and praise his work.

 

[diverselikebeats]

He was nice way back in the Hot Boys days...but never got his due, because of bias against southern rap and other issues...songs like Block is Hot and Get Off The Corner, were technically and lyrically proficient and well written songs...For instance, if Meek Mill were to release Get Off the Corner tomorrow, word for word...it'd be considered dopeness

Lil' Wayne - Get Off The Corner (HQ / Dirty) - YouTube

But people will just dismiss that entire era as "wobbly wobbly" nonsense because in rap it's not about reality as much as perception..and wayne wasn't perceived as an act to take serious or cool to like back then...by the time he started making the Sqad tapes he was an absolute beast, and that's when it went from being "the hot boy with the most potential" to "yo...this lil niqqa is a problem" and started building what became his core mixtape fanbase

Lil Wayne - best of me freestyles - YouTube

Lil Wayne - what happen to that boy freestyle - YouTube

The post sqad era started with the Prefix and the was beginning of the run that ultimately catapulted him to the top of the game, and literally has more dope shyt than can prolly even be accurately listed...but from '03 to like '07 dude was in a ridiculous zone...he had mastered the stream of consciousness style and had the perfect match of straight spitting, stylistic flair, flow and charisma

Lil Wayne - Moment Of Clarity Freestyle - YouTube

Lil Wayne - PSA Freestyle - YouTube

BM J.R. - Lil Wayne - YouTube

LIl Wayne - Dedication Intro - YouTube

Lil' Wayne - BM J.R. Part 2 - Tha Carter 2.5 - YouTube

Lil Wayne - Problem Solver (Gillie diss) - YouTube

Lil' Wayne - Shorty Bounce (Full Explicit Version) - YouTube

Tha Mobb - Lil Wayne - YouTube

Lil Wayne - Get 'Em (Dedication 2) - YouTube

Late '07 his style became more drugged influenced and eccentric which lead into the drought 3 era...and sometime in there the Carter 3 sessions (which had some of his best material)...most of wayne's new era fans caught on around here... by the time he re-recorded Carter 3 his peak was already passed, still put out a lot of dope stuff from that point on, but wasn't in the zone he was during his prime...it was also the height of his career, he became a popstar and biggest name in hip hop, received the obligatory backlash, became the most hated rapper on the internet and the personification of all that is evil and unjust in the world (see: the comments section of every semi-rap related
video on youtube)...essentially what John Cena is to the IWC, Wayne became to the IRC...got burned out from the insane output that shot him to the top of the rap game, and now largely raps like he's bored and completely uninspired...and lot of his stuff now sounds like it's made in some kind of formulaic template...the great shame of it all, is that he's so hated now it'll cloud how genuinely dope he was when he was in his prime...he doesn't get the rose colored nostalgia that's afforded his peers from the late 90's (juvi, bg, and even Turk will get fondly talked about online now like they were young southern nas's) because people are too invested into hating him now

The n1gga has no replay value point blank period ..