When was lil Wayne actually nice?

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from the squad tapes till a lil while after carter 2


he was never a top 5 rapper though
 

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you right carter 4 cannot compare to carter 1 or 2 song wise...but his lyrics hasn't changed much.....Also I feel why cats were like wayne so much was because he was everywhere at one point flooding the markent

I think when people say he fell off or changed is because now he makes rock albums and love songs instead of the more street oriented tracks he used to make.
 

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LOL at this nikka tryin to act as if Lil Louisiana wasnt the best marketed rapper pushed by record companies down the impressionable broke hopeless dumb nikkas throad....I MEAN as if Lil Weezy F wasnt the best "rapper" ever to come from the souff

he wasnt no where near
 

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I don't even like Wayne, but dude was a beast back then
 
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Wait for all the Lil Louisiana infatuated kids pull up in this thread strapped for combat...
 

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I think when people say he fell off or changed is because now he makes rock albums and love songs instead of the more street oriented tracks he used to make.

I see what u saying. i'm seeing on a lot of boards saying his new freestyle's are wack etc...im saying to myself like "yo this sound like all his other silly shyt"
 

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from the squad tapes till a lil while after carter 2


he was never a top 5 rapper though
"best rapper alive since the best rapper retired"

I remember first being :wtf: because Nas didnt retire.

Then I thought about it and was like there are a rack of rappers from the South who are better.

It was a audacious line tho, so I give him props for it. I was just irked that so many of my friends were riding this thinking like dude wasnt on a track with Lil Zane and Lil Bow Wow just a few years ago. :russ:

but Carter 1 and 2 were really good to great albums, and Tha Carter is a classic to me.
 

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He was always quantity over quality

Didn't budden diss him with puttibg out 16 tapes with 4 dope bars in an interview?

Hmm not sure I saw the interview but I remember him making a similiar reference in a song and was pretty sure he was talking about Papoose could be wrong though.:yeshrug:
Wayne went from trash to acceptable back to trash not sure he was ever nice even at his peak he was dropping a ton of corny trash bars mixed in with good ones.:manny:
 

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Wayne had something alot of nicer rappers didn't; Charisma. Besides that he stepped up from being poor to mediocre adding jay-z style wordplay & content like every other late 90's-mid 2000's hustler rappers + punchline rap for the increasingly stupider audience + highly marketable image + ability to make crossover hits = Superstar.

People call Jay-z overrated :laugh: This guy has never warranted the hype, ever. One thing i will say that Wayne is underrated for is his versatility though, his music has more range than many niccas including Eminem & Nas! :ohmy: It's true.
 

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i liked wayne the most on lights out. but he was doing thing around squad up tapes to the dedication series.
 

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He was nice way back in the Hot Boys days...but never got his due, because of bias against southern rap and other issues...songs like Block is Hot and Get Off The Corner, were technically and lyrically proficient and well written songs...For instance, if Meek Mill were to release Get Off the Corner tomorrow, word for word...it'd be considered dopeness



But people will just dismiss that entire era as "wobbly wobbly" nonsense because in rap it's not about reality as much as perception..and wayne wasn't perceived as an act to take serious or cool to like back then...by the time he started making the Sqad tapes he was an absolute beast, and that's when it went from being "the hot boy with the most potential" to "yo...this lil niqqa is a problem" and started building what became his core mixtape fanbase



Lil Wayne - what happen to that boy freestyle - YouTube

The post sqad era started with the Prefix and the was beginning of the run that ultimately catapulted him to the top of the game, and literally has more dope shyt than can prolly even be accurately listed...but from '03 to like '07 dude was in a ridiculous zone...he had mastered the stream of consciousness style and had the perfect match of straight spitting, stylistic flair, flow and charisma



















Late '07 his style became more drugged influenced and eccentric which lead into the drought 3 era...and sometime in there the Carter 3 sessions (which had some of his best material)...most of wayne's new era fans caught on around here... by the time he re-recorded Carter 3 his peak was already passed, still put out a lot of dope stuff from that point on, but wasn't in the zone he was during his prime...it was also the height of his career, he became a popstar and biggest name in hip hop, received the obligatory backlash, became the most hated rapper on the internet and the personification of all that is evil and unjust in the world (see: the comments section of every semi-rap related
video on youtube)...essentially what John Cena is to the IWC, Wayne became to the IRC...got burned out from the insane output that shot him to the top of the rap game, and now largely raps like he's bored and completely uninspired...and lot of his stuff now sounds like it's made in some kind of formulaic template...the great shame of it all, is that he's so hated now it'll cloud how genuinely dope he was when he was in his prime...he doesn't get the rose colored nostalgia that's afforded his peers from the late 90's (juvi, bg, and even Turk :laugh: will get fondly talked about online now like they were young southern nas's) because people are too invested into hating him now
 
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