When the going gets tough: Yoda, Obi-wan and Luke all hid like b1tches in solitude for decades

[JackRoss]

The Yoda/ Obi Wan disrespect

They couldn't stop Anakin/ Darth Vader after the kill switch got pulled.. Palpatine turned the galaxy against the Jedi...... Even Obi Wan and Yoda were forced to lean back

Lol one of the reasons why Rogue One is a good movie...

Darth Vader against Obi Wan and Yoda "help me Obi Wan you're my only hope".. Did yall not see the fire and anger of Anakin/Darth Vader at the end of Rogue One or Force Awakens which ever one it was.. He would have fukked both them up.. He was REALLY in tune with his powers.. Hella angry but not conflicted like he was as Anakin, wiser and stronger.. No doubt in my mind that as Darth Vader he and Obi Wan would fight to the death.. Give me Darth Vader hate

Now against Yoda I dont know... Dude legit hated Obi Wan for whatever crazy reason so he would have murked Obi Wan with no fukks given.. Episode 3 told me that.. Young Anakin vs a mid level Obi Wan

I just really think Darth Vader knew he didnt have that smoke for Yoda and he wasnt powetful enough... That's why Palpatine had to fight that one

 

[Ain't That Something]

This is what kind of ruined the Last Jedi for me now that I've had time to let the movie marinate for a bit.

Both Obi Wan and Yoda were insisting that Luke needed to kill Vader, but Luke came through and proved himself to be different from those guys.
Yoda or Obi-wan might give up or lay low in the middle of nowhere for 30 years, but Luke was clearly set up to be different form those guys. He represented hope, and was the beginning of a new generation that would surpass the old masters.
Luke was willing to lay his own life down on the chance that there was still good left in Vader.

I find it hard to believe that such a hopeful and optimistic character would just totally cut himself off and give up like that after managing to successfully turn Vader of all people.

It seems really out of character to try to kill his own student almost entirely on a premonition after redeeming his father who had murdered millions, if not billions. And even in the case that he were to do so, Luke wouldn't wait so long to make any effort to right that wrong. This is the same guy that prematurely cut off his training with Yoda to go flying off to the other end of the galaxy to face Vader by himself in an attempt save Leia and the others. And they couldn't even get him to leave his island in episode VIII? There were parts of the Last Jedi that I liked, but the treatment of the OG characters leaves a really bitter taste in my mouth.

Spoiler

These last two movies have effectively rendered all of the sacrifice, and struggle of the rebellion an utterly meaningless and pointless waste of time on every possible level. The OG characters deserved a happier ending than this. It's great that they want to pass the torch because it's not Luke's story anymore, but it was still possible to build up new characters and let them shine without going out of their way to tear down all of the original heroes from the past films.

One of the biggest problems is that they killed Luke off before he could get a more fleshed out redemption arc on his part, and that we never really got to see an epic battle where he truly cut loose in person and got to show us the Jedi Master he had truly become since we've last seen him. Not to mention that he got very little time to actually train Rey. His passing should have been saved for the next movie.

But it's cool though. It's not like Rey will ever need anybody's help with anything ever. It's not like she's ever going to struggle, fail, fall short, take L's, or make mistakes like the rest of us, or like better written protagonists from other movies, such as John McClane, Marty McFly, Ellen Ripley, Neo, Rocky Balboa, Sarah Connor, Harry Potter, Peter Parker, Charlie Bucket, the Bride, etc.
It's not like she's going to have to struggle with petty things like adversity, setbacks, or any kind of genuine character flaws that need to be overcome. It's not like she has any really well-defined, clear, tangible goals that are motivating her to become a Jedi, barring the fact that she was abandoned by her family in some past traumatic event that we're told next-to-nothing about for the second movie in a row. It's not like we have to worry whether she'll be able to rise to the challenge of beating Kylo Ren in the next movie, since we've already seen her do that in the first one and it's been established that she can fly, fight, and use the force better than anyone for no real reason. She'll be fine, brehs

The problem isn't so much that Luke became disheartened with the force but more so the reason that they gave as to why. Had they depicted Luke as a battle hardened Jedi Master. Weary of the tolls of all his battles with the new order and the losses he suffered as to why he is dejected with the force would have been one thing. But the reason we got was so

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I never liked the Jedis. IMO they were more faker than the Siths. The Jedis especially in the prequels and EU did many suspect things. They even came off as elitist. Even their rules were stupid. They were like radical Catholic monks/nuns.

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

I never watched any of the offshoots. Only the movies. This shyt canon?

 

[Take It In Blood]

I never watched any of the offshoots. Only the movies. This shyt canon?

gifs are acting gay today


but yes. it's canon

Timeline of canon media

Start with Clone Wars series if u plan to watch the shows, it takes place during the prequels

Rebels takes place after Episode III and ends right before A New Hope

 

[Neuromancer]

I never liked the Jedis. IMO they were more faker than the Siths. The Jedis especially in the prequels and EU did many suspect things. They even came off as elitist. Even their rules were stupid. They were like radical Catholic monks/nuns.

They seemed destined to turn padwans into Sith.

 

[Still FloW]

nikkas actually give a fucc bout that cac shyt fakkits

 

[Take It In Blood]

nikkas actually give a fucc bout that cac shyt fakkits

U got something against us n1gga nerds breh?


Lets take it outside then


B!tch hold my communicator chirp while I lay down this roody poo candy ass nikka

Squad Mobb Deep and we creeping on a Quiet Storm

 

[beenz]

Two sith with an army of untold thousands/millions behind them.
They literally had no help at the time they went into hiding. A few low level jedi scattered across the galaxy and a couple politicians...they weren't beating that army in a fight. THey had to wait until a group with enough size and skills could be formed to go against the empire

Luke however had a whole army ready to fight at his command, so he was just a fakkit

yoda did have an army of wookie's at his disposal.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

This is what kind of ruined the Last Jedi for me now that I've had time to let the movie marinate for a bit.

Both Obi Wan and Yoda were insisting that Luke needed to kill Vader, but Luke came through and proved himself to be different from those guys.
Yoda or Obi-wan might give up or lay low in the middle of nowhere for 30 years, but Luke was clearly set up to be different form those guys. He represented hope, and was the beginning of a new generation that would surpass the old masters.
Luke was willing to lay his own life down on the chance that there was still good left in Vader.

I find it hard to believe that such a hopeful and optimistic character would just totally cut himself off and give up like that after managing to successfully turn Vader of all people.

It seems really out of character to try to kill his own student almost entirely on a premonition after redeeming his father who had murdered millions, if not billions. And even in the case that he were to do so, Luke wouldn't wait so long to make any effort to right that wrong. This is the same guy that prematurely cut off his training with Yoda to go flying off to the other end of the galaxy to face Vader by himself in an attempt save Leia and the others. And they couldn't even get him to leave his island in episode VIII? There were parts of the Last Jedi that I liked, but the treatment of the OG characters leaves a really bitter taste in my mouth.

Spoiler

These last two movies have effectively rendered all of the sacrifice, and struggle of the rebellion an utterly meaningless and pointless waste of time on every possible level. The OG characters deserved a happier ending than this. It's great that they want to pass the torch because it's not Luke's story anymore, but it was still possible to build up new characters and let them shine without going out of their way to tear down all of the original heroes from the past films.

One of the biggest problems is that they killed Luke off before he could get a more fleshed out redemption arc on his part, and that we never really got to see an epic battle where he truly cut loose in person and got to show us the Jedi Master he had truly become since we've last seen him. Not to mention that he got very little time to actually train Rey. His passing should have been saved for the next movie.

But it's cool though. It's not like Rey will ever need anybody's help with anything ever. It's not like she's ever going to struggle, fail, fall short, take L's, or make mistakes like the rest of us, or like better written protagonists from other movies, such as John McClane, Marty McFly, Ellen Ripley, Neo, Rocky Balboa, Sarah Connor, Harry Potter, Peter Parker, Charlie Bucket, the Bride, etc.
It's not like she's going to have to struggle with petty things like adversity, setbacks, or any kind of genuine character flaws that need to be overcome. It's not like she has any really well-defined, clear, tangible goals that are motivating her to become a Jedi, barring the fact that she was abandoned by her family in some past traumatic event that we're told next-to-nothing about for the second movie in a row. It's not like we have to worry whether she'll be able to rise to the challenge of beating Kylo Ren in the next movie, since we've already seen her do that in the first one and it's been established that she can fly, fight, and use the force better than anyone for no real reason. She'll be fine, brehs

Mark agrees with you fully

After reading the script for the film, Mark Hamill told director Rian Johnson, "I pretty much fundamentally disagree with every choice you've made for this character [Luke Skywalker]. Now, having said that, I have gotten it off my chest, and my job now is to take what you've created and do my best to realize your vision." Hamill later stated that he has the utmost respect for Johnson and The Force Awakens's director, J.J. Abrams, and is pleased with how both films have turned out. He just wanted to be heard.





yea... his first reaction was the true one.. then he cleaned it up for media.. that shyt made zero sense, especially leaving his friends and sister out there to get their ass kicked

 

[HipHopStan]

Squad Mobb Deep and we creeping on a Quiet Storm

This is the greatest picture of all time.

 

[Take It In Blood]

Now we can add Mace Windu to the list since we all know he's inevitably coming back now

when the going gets rough, Jedis get ghost

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

Imagine if Anakin hadn’t have gotten put into that suit and still because a Sith Lord



Thats like an all-star who right before getting drafted breaks his ankles so he loses his explosiveness…but he still got that jump shot

 

[ORDER_66]

I mean lets be honest no matter the time frame the empire has been bigger than the jedi order how you gonna fight a war with just yourself the rebel alliance is great and all but the empire stays coming back in some form or another... and now you have to worry about a third faction outside the universe as well... just great...

 

[ORDER_66]

Sisko tricked his enemy to fight with him against another foe and lived with that burden.

I love sisko but lets be clear he was doing crazy shyt during wartime behind the scenes to win breh