When the going gets tough: Yoda, Obi-wan and Luke all hid like b1tches in solitude for decades

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They only went into hiding after it seemed like there was no chance of winning.




They put in work at the Jedi Temple:ufdup:
What was their justification to running off while youngling's were getting their wigs split? :jbhmm:
You know what happened to the guy who did it right:sas1:

Also, Anakin and the Clone Troopers running up on the Jedi was a surprise while their best were around the galaxy fighting. It ain't they like watched the clip of the kids getting killed and said "whelp, bout go to play some Left 4 Dead:troll:"
 

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Yoda went into hiding so that the Jedi Order could survive. He was guiding Jedi all over the universe and finally trained Luke.

Obi-Wan wasn't hiding, he was protecting Luke. Ask Darth Maul what happened when he showed up threatening Luke.

They also both returned to the Temple to stop Jedi from being lured there. Then they each took on one Sith Lord.

Luke cut himself off from the force and wanted to die....can't really justify that one.
 

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@Take It In Blood younthe homie.
But get the fukk outta here with this shyt. Obi-wan was told to watch Luke. He Also fukked up Anakin, Killed Darth Maul and Kept Luke and his fam from getting robbed by Jabba. Ben ain't run from shyt.:camby: Read the Star Wars comics or watch Rebels. Ben was a G till he died.

Can't speak for Luke or Yoda.:hubie:
 

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@Take It In Blood younthe homie.
But get the fukk outta here with this shyt. Obi-wan was told to watch Luke. He Also fukked up Anakin, Killed Darth Maul and Kept Luke and his fam from getting robbed by Jabba. Ben ain't run from shyt.:camby: Read the Star Wars comics or watch Rebels. Ben was a G till he died.

Can't speak for Luke or Yoda.:hubie:
Told by who?
So instead of fighting he was just going to wait for the next gen to win the War? Sounds like he gave up to me.
 

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Emperor and Vader woulda murked both of them easy, even if they started training youngbloods to go to war for em

Apprentices snitch quick when theyre getting lightning up their ass. Both had to wait for Luke before doing anything, since he was the only one with a real chance.

That said, Luke is a bytch yes
 

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Emperor and Vader woulda murked both of them easy, even if they started training youngbloods to go to war for em

Apprentices snitch quick when theyre getting lightning up their ass. Both had to wait for Luke before doing anything, since he was the only one with a real chance.

That said, Luke is a bytch yes
Palpatine was getting worked by Yoda and Mace. Vader already lost to Ben. Two on two the Jedi win. The clone army was the only real issue.
 
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This is what kind of ruined the Last Jedi for me now that I've had time to let the movie marinate for a bit.

Both Obi Wan and Yoda were insisting that Luke needed to kill Vader, but Luke came through and proved himself to be different from those guys.
Yoda or Obi-wan might give up or lay low in the middle of nowhere for 30 years, but Luke was clearly set up to be different form those guys. He represented hope, and was the beginning of a new generation that would surpass the old masters.
Luke was willing to lay his own life down on the chance that there was still good left in Vader.

I find it hard to believe that such a hopeful and optimistic character would just totally cut himself off and give up like that after managing to successfully turn Vader of all people.

It seems really out of character to try to kill his own student almost entirely on a premonition after redeeming his father who had murdered millions, if not billions. And even in the case that he were to do so, Luke wouldn't wait so long to make any effort to right that wrong. This is the same guy that prematurely cut off his training with Yoda to go flying off to the other end of the galaxy to face Vader by himself in an attempt save Leia and the others. And they couldn't even get him to leave his island in episode VIII? There were parts of the Last Jedi that I liked, but the treatment of the OG characters leaves a really bitter taste in my mouth.

These last two movies have effectively rendered all of the sacrifice, and struggle of the rebellion an utterly meaningless and pointless waste of time on every possible level. The OG characters deserved a happier ending than this. It's great that they want to pass the torch because it's not Luke's story anymore, but it was still possible to build up new characters and let them shine without going out of their way to tear down all of the original heroes from the past films.

One of the biggest problems is that they killed Luke off before he could get a more fleshed out redemption arc on his part, and that we never really got to see an epic battle where he truly cut loose in person and got to show us the Jedi Master he had truly become since we've last seen him. Not to mention that he got very little time to actually train Rey. His passing should have been saved for the next movie.

But it's cool though. It's not like Rey will ever need anybody's help with anything ever. It's not like she's ever going to struggle, fail, fall short, take L's, or make mistakes like the rest of us, or like better written protagonists from other movies, such as John McClane, Marty McFly, Ellen Ripley, Neo, Rocky Balboa, Sarah Connor, Harry Potter, Peter Parker, Charlie Bucket, the Bride, etc.
It's not like she's going to have to struggle with petty things like adversity, setbacks, or any kind of genuine character flaws that need to be overcome. It's not like she has any really well-defined, clear, tangible goals that are motivating her to become a Jedi, barring the fact that she was abandoned by her family in some past traumatic event that we're told next-to-nothing about for the second movie in a row. It's not like we have to worry whether she'll be able to rise to the challenge of beating Kylo Ren in the next movie, since we've already seen her do that in the first one and it's been established that she can fly, fight, and use the force better than anyone for no real reason. She'll be fine, brehs :sas1:
 
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