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no way prodigy is 14 in that pic 
When Jay put Prodigy on that Summer Jam Screen what was the aftermath?
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and even if the pic actually was from '88, wouldn't that make him like 12?
same article, he said that vita wasn't in the burn video because jay went to irv and blocked it. this is another reason why rap slowly started to get corny.
yea. I remember prodigy said this in the source around that time.The first time Jay and Prodigy seen each other IRL in a club after that happened Jay walked up to P like "its just Hip Hop breh" That's what P he said in his book
same article, he said that vita wasn't in the burn video because jay went to irv and blocked it. this is another reason why rap slowly started to get corny.
That shyt was big when it happened. That was all nikkas talked about in high school at one moment. That shyt pretty much started an avalanche of L's for Prodigy. P started dropping the wackest verses of his career filled with non-rhyming struggle bars and curses. Then Nas started getting at that nikka too. All the street shyt them dudes did in the the past came into question as well. nikkas started looking at them dudes like they were just some shyt talking rapping midgets.
Yeah you can say Hova was reaching saying a MJ costume was a ballerina outfit, but that shyt still hit hard. It didn't ruin his career, but it put a dent into it. What made it worst is that P felt betrayed by NY since Jay made everyone forget that it was the Mobb that stepped up for NY during the East/West feud. So yeah that nikka was salty about that shyt and rightfully so , but it's just hip-hop
Yeah you can say Hova was reaching saying a MJ costume was a ballerina outfit, but that shyt still hit hard. It didn't ruin his career, but it put a dent into it. What made it worst is that P felt betrayed by NY since Jay made everyone forget that it was the Mobb that stepped up for NY during the East/West feud. So yeah that nikka was salty about that shyt and rightfully so , but it's just hip-hop
seemorecizzy
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to b honest, it did have a effect on p and mobb deep but it really shouldnt have.
ppl were blowing it up as if it was some super special exposal
i thought it was kinda dope too at da time
hot 97 and em had a lot to do with ppl making it bigger than it was
in retrospect, it was just a baby picture and it had nothing to do with the beef or anything
but prodigy was hurt by it (or atleast by the reaction of the public) 80 percent of his infamy verses was about how he wanted to killl hov
and his lyrics declined literally right after
remember he took heavy blows from jay and nas at pretty much da same time, dat will effect anyone
ppl were blowing it up as if it was some super special exposal
i thought it was kinda dope too at da time
hot 97 and em had a lot to do with ppl making it bigger than it was
in retrospect, it was just a baby picture and it had nothing to do with the beef or anything
but prodigy was hurt by it (or atleast by the reaction of the public) 80 percent of his infamy verses was about how he wanted to killl hov
and his lyrics declined literally right afterremember he took heavy blows from jay and nas at pretty much da same time, dat will effect anyone
Like a young nikka only heard stories about such fukkery but like what was the aftermath?
This shyt is like legend. Did Prodigy go on radio to try and explain that shyt?
Is that when Jay started being talked as the GOAT?
How was my mans Prodigy feeling after being put up on that screen?
Will we ever see such levels of fukkery again?
That shyt was a New York thing... Everyone else was talking about the song... And how he went as Nas. Ryan Cameron, Who is still on the radio today, was going crazy lol
prodigy came back at him on burn, which was aight, but this is past his prime prodigy, not to mention by then he had already been snuffed by keith murray and dissed by pac, so nobody bought his little ass as a tough guy to begin with
Big Mel
@bigboss
That pic is from 83-84.
Yea, that pic is definitely from 83/84. Just wasn't sure. fakkits in here with the propaganda.
Whitty Hutton
these posters are TRASH
No it isn't.
this is 6 years before shook ones was released
Some did expect some heads to roll or Jay to get Big Pun bottled by QB because P was the biggest tough guy talker. But biggest disappointment/embarrassment was P's inability to respond to Jay with a worthy record. When I heard his response on "Burn", ("Wrap that nikka up like a package"
) I was shocked how awful and uninspired it was. And when the album dropped it was confirmation that Prodigy had reached Shaun Alexander levels of fall off (OP probably doesn't even know who that is)People wondered what would happen at the Source Awards that year. I don't remember much from it, there was general ******dom, but nothing involving Mobb/Rocafella. Jay wasn't there, but who remembers Mobb Deep gettin on stage to either present an award or introduce somebody and Pee slipping a "fck Jay-Z" into his presentation before they cut it?
Big Mel
@bigboss
Most 9-10 year olds in 1984 looked or tried to look exactly like that.
It was a brilliant move on Jay's part, who had been getting hit with little underhanded verses from P, who was already beginning the decline into spoken word thugging, for about 18 months, previous. He hadn't said anything specific yet, this was his response, and it was impactful....not jut to P, but Nas too. People thought he got buried, and Jay was just stunting on the whole game at that point. Majority of fans definitely did start looking at Mobb Deep differently, and maybe forever, based on that.
Anyone trying to brush this aside, like some product of an older generations imagination....has some bizarre agenda. It was a defining moment in hip hop, and a major event, shaping the rest of the 2000 era. It's not like I stopped listening to P, or Mobb, and P had been languishing for the better part of 2 years, despite a quality release 'HNIC', summer jam sent them into a slump like Ja Rule after 50 Cent. 'Infamy' was universally panned, and they were an afterthought for years afterward.....truthfully, it took til 'Free Agents' for them to come back..and it still wasn't a triumphant return, just kind of a reemergence. Trying to say 'Takeover/Summer Jam' didn't hurt P/Mobb, is like 'Ether' didn't hurt Jay.
Anyone trying to brush this aside, like some product of an older generations imagination....has some bizarre agenda. It was a defining moment in hip hop, and a major event, shaping the rest of the 2000 era. It's not like I stopped listening to P, or Mobb, and P had been languishing for the better part of 2 years, despite a quality release 'HNIC', summer jam sent them into a slump like Ja Rule after 50 Cent. 'Infamy' was universally panned, and they were an afterthought for years afterward.....truthfully, it took til 'Free Agents' for them to come back..and it still wasn't a triumphant return, just kind of a reemergence. Trying to say 'Takeover/Summer Jam' didn't hurt P/Mobb, is like 'Ether' didn't hurt Jay.
lol dont play me like thatNo it isn't.
Some did expect some heads to roll or Jay to get Big Pun bottled by QB because P was the biggest tough guy talker. But biggest disappointment/embarrassment was P's inability to respond to Jay with a worthy record. When I heard his response on "Burn", ("Wrap that nikka up like a package"
People wondered what would happen at the Source Awards that year. I don't remember much from it, there was general ******dom, but nothing involving Mobb/Rocafella. Jay wasn't there, but who remembers Mobb Deep gettin on stage to either present an award or introduce somebody and Pee slipping a "fck Jay-Z" into his presentation before they cut it?
dont bring up prime time though
That shyt was big when it happened. That was all nikkas talked about in high school at one moment. That shyt pretty much started an avalanche of L's for Prodigy. P started dropping the wackest verses of his career filled with non-rhyming struggle bars and curses. Then Nas started getting at that nikka too. All the street shyt them dudes did in the the past came into question as well. nikkas started looking at them dudes like they were just some shyt talking rapping midgets.
Yeah you can say Hova was reaching saying a MJ costume was a ballerina outfit, but that shyt still hit hard. It didn't ruin his career, but it put a dent into it. What made it worst is that P felt betrayed by NY since Jay made everyone forget that it was the Mobb that stepped up for NY during the East/West feud. So yeah that nikka was salty about that shyt and rightfully so , but it's just hip-hop
Yup
What happened after summer jam made it 100 times worse than it actually was
As you said, it started an avalanche of L's for Prodigy
He was a declining rapper, dropping some of the worst verses of his career, and he seemed increasingly irrelevant. He didn't really respond to the diss in a strong way on wax. Just a few weak, subliminal lines here and there. Infamy was a critical and commercial let down. And Nas went at P too. Add all the rumors of P getting robbed and being a fake thug, and he just seemed like a big joke who couldn't stand up for himself and be taken seriously.