When is Brady gonna fall off?

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Most of his game doesn't really revolve around superior athleticism or even arm strength. He just needs to be mentally sharp and accurate with the ball. Their system doesn't ask him to regularly go out and sling the ball downfield into tight windows or escape pressure or anything. I honestly think the only thing that will truly slow him down is an injury

Yeah but were talking the nfl and Father Time in general

Brady is gonna be the first human to not slow down in his 40's?

 

[Rekkapryde]

He's 38 and showing no signs of slowing down which is mind boggling

He seems to be getting rid of the ball quicker then ever and not taking any bad hits at all

Is it possible he can play 5-10 years at a high level like he said he could by playing the way he is now with not taking bad hits?

Pats offensive system is so conducive to him playing for a good 3/4 more years barring injury.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

People are going to be IRATE when Megatron gets released and signs a team friendly deal with the Patriots, and then Josh Gordon gets released and Belichick signs him as well.

Brady+Gronk+Megatron+Gordon+Edelman+Lewis

fukk YOU! THIS shyt CANNOT HAPPEN!!!

I'll put the dead hooker in Gronks hotel room myself if I have to!

 

[Rekkapryde]

It's amazing how this system is so amazing, yet these other teams with QB's haven't been able to replicate it..

The system does "help", but he runs it like a machine. I think another QB would do well in the system, but they wouldn't do it as good as Tom of course.

 

[KOBE]

It's amazing how this system is so amazing, yet these other teams with QB's haven't been able to replicate it..

you mean like matt cassell in the same system?

 

[BucciMane]

you mean like matt cassell in the same system?

You mean like seven less wins and four more losses?.

You mean like 1,000 less passing yards, 29 less TD's, three more INT's, and nearly 30 points less for his passer rating?.


People who bring up Cassel just expose their complete lack of knowledge about anything football related. All Cassel going 11-5 that season shows is what anyone with half a brain already knew........the Patriots had a very good team.

 

[North]

He's 38 and showing no signs of slowing down which is mind boggling

He seems to be getting rid of the ball quicker then ever and not taking any bad hits at all

Is it possible he can play 5-10 years at a high level like he said he could by playing the way he is now with not taking bad hits?

kobe was on fire in 2012 2 years later

 

[RammerJammer]

Tom Brady and Tim Duncan are the only guys that I can see playing into their early 40s

 

[KOBE]

You mean like seven less wins and four more losses?.

You mean like 1,000 less passing yards, 29 less TD's, three more INT's, and nearly 30 points less for his passer rating?.


People who bring up Cassel just expose their complete lack of knowledge about anything football related. All Cassel going 11-5 that season shows is what anyone with half a brain already knew........the Patriots had a very good team.

First of all, pats weren't going to get 18-1, so get out with the nonsense. He had a career year and one of the best seasons of all time.

Cassel came in and did fine in that system. No he didn't duplicate Brady's stats, but that was his first year starting and his numbers were still good. People bring up Cassel as he did a lot better on that team than any other team, showing it wasn't just "brady being super" that made them great. That's what you boys are always trying to argue, isn't it? It's the same deal with this team, Brady won't look so hot at 38 if he didn't have receivers like that could get open in seconds on those 5 yard passes. Those plays aren't easy and aren't happening league wide because receivers aren't breaking free that quickly. Other teams also don't got the best tight end ever making plays for them.

 

[BucciMane]

First of all, pats weren't going to get 18-1, so get out with the nonsense. He had a career year and one of the best seasons of all time.

Cassel came in and did fine in that system. No he didn't duplicate Brady's stats, but that was his first year starting and his numbers were still good. People bring up Cassel as he did a lot better on that team than any other team, showing it wasn't just "brady being super" that made them great. That's what you boys are always trying to argue, isn't it? It's the same deal with this team, Brady won't look so hot at 38 if he didn't have receivers like that could get open in seconds on those 5 yard passes. Those plays aren't easy and aren't happening league wide because receivers aren't breaking free that quickly. Other teams also don't got the best tight end ever making plays for them.

You're creating these fictional scenarios in your head. Yes, SOME fans say that it's all Brady, yet most are not saying that.

I've said it for years now, but outside of any QB, Gronk is THE single most important player to his teams success in the NFL, and it's not really even close. Of course Brady doesn't do it alone, and I'm not someone who thinks he's had zero weapons his entire career. However, the entire Cassel narrative is just off base.

 

[resurrection]

Yeah but were talking the nfl and Father Time in general

Brady is gonna be the first human to not slow down in his 40's?

That's not what I'm saying.. I'm saying he's probably already "slowed down" athletically/physically and will continue to for a while but it won't make his game slow down too much because what he needs to succeed in that offense are not necessarily the things that slow down in your late 30s and 40s.

I still think he'll be done fairly soon, but if you watch them play, he very rarely is asked to do anything that makes you think "oh geez only a young spritely QB could pull that off" .. He's not Derek Carr scrambling away from pressure and throwing 35 yard darts to the sideline and shyt. On the majority of his dropbacks, he takes the snap, stands in one place (maybe a step or two) and throws almost immediately to a spot he already knows someone is going to be. That spot is rarely more than 10 yards downfield. It's basically muscle memory for him at this point.

 

[No1]

First of all, pats weren't going to get 18-1, so get out with the nonsense. He had a career year and one of the best seasons of all time.

Cassel came in and did fine in that system. No he didn't duplicate Brady's stats, but that was his first year starting and his numbers were still good. People bring up Cassel as he did a lot better on that team than any other team, showing it wasn't just "brady being super" that made them great. That's what you boys are always trying to argue, isn't it? It's the same deal with this team, Brady won't look so hot at 38 if he didn't have receivers like that could get open in seconds on those 5 yard passes. Those plays aren't easy and aren't happening league wide because receivers aren't breaking free that quickly. Other teams also don't got the best tight end ever making plays for them.

So, what you're saying is, that if I give a guy a Randy Moss, Wes Welker in his prime, a top 10 defense, an elite o-line and the easiest schedule in the NFL he can manage to have a good season?

Did you really think that you were saying something special?

That's not what I'm saying.. I'm saying he's probably already "slowed down" athletically/physically and will continue to for a while but it won't make his game slow down too much because what he needs to succeed in that offense are not necessarily the things that slow down in your late 30s and 40s.

I still think he'll be done fairly soon, but if you watch them play, he very rarely is asked to do anything that makes you think "oh geez only a young spritely QB could pull that off" .. He's not Derek Carr scrambling away from pressure and throwing 35 yard darts to the sideline and shyt. On the majority of his dropbacks, he takes the snap, stands in one place (maybe a step or two) and throws almost immediately to a spot he already knows someone is going to be. That spot is rarely more than 10 yards downfield. It's basically muscle memory for him at this point.

This isn't true at all. Brady has moved more in the pocket the past two seasons than he has at any point since pre-2007. He specifically spent his past two offseasons working on that. Brady throws more through the air than most NFL QBs, you guys just think that throwing 20 yards down the middle of the field is worst than doing it throwing to the sideline. The Patriots often lead in yards after the catch, but they're near the top in air yards too.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

First of all, pats weren't going to get 18-1, so get out with the nonsense. He had a career year and one of the best seasons of all time.

Cassel came in and did fine in that system. No he didn't duplicate Brady's stats, but that was his first year starting and his numbers were still good. People bring up Cassel as he did a lot better on that team than any other team, showing it wasn't just "brady being super" that made them great. That's what you boys are always trying to argue, isn't it? It's the same deal with this team, Brady won't look so hot at 38 if he didn't have receivers like that could get open in seconds on those 5 yard passes. Those plays aren't easy and aren't happening league wide because receivers aren't breaking free that quickly. Other teams also don't got the best tight end ever making plays for them.

That's because Brady does/did make them great.

Let's not act like Cassel is some bum and is incapable of putting up similar #s in another 'system' -

2008 (last season with Patriots) - 3,600 yards on 516 attempts, 21 touchdowns and 11 intercepts
2010 (second season with Chiefs) - 3,100 yards on 450 attempts, 27 touchdowns and 7 intercepts

 

[BlackBall]

The Bellicheat era will soon be over brehs

 

[Formerly known as...]

Injury may get him..I mean Manning got the neck injury, without that he would still be Manning I guess.

Brady apparently takes his health and diet pretty serious so he's good there but an injury from a hit can't be avoided all the time.