When is Brady gonna fall off?

[SteelCitySoldier]

I can't stand that muthafuka @BucciMane or his punk ass QB but he's right Barring injury Brady is gonna play for at least five more seasons at an elite level. He's never had to take real beatings because he's always had a line, his organization knows how to build around him and most importantly what they don't draft they go spend money on.

Josh Gordon will most likely be trade bait in Cleveland.

Calvin Johnson is going to get out of Detroit

Malcolm Floyd and Anquan Boldin are both free agents this year, both are old but they will be serviceable until 2017 when you have

Larry Fitzgerald
Vincent Jackson
Pierre Garcon
Deshaun Jackson
Emanuel Sanders
Marcus Colston
Ted Ginn Jr.
Doug Baldwin


All of them are potential free agents in 2017 (and there are more), we know some will resign but you will see some of these guys test free agency and who in their right mind wouldn't want to go play with Tom Brady?

I believe hes a system QB, hate him and his team but Tom Brady gets it done and so does his front office

This is the full list of possible wide receiver free agents for 2017


2017 NFL Free Agents Tracker

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

He's doing 5 yard passes to receivers that break free rather quickly. When those receivers went down he played like shyt. If anything happens to Gronk long term then he's done and he has struggled without Gronk in the past.

The only people that don't realize Gronk is the MVP of that offense are delusional Brady stans. Brady still has it, but he has regressed and Gronk is what makes the offense run as well as it does.

Taylor threw 131 passes within five yards of the line of scrimmage -- which isn't even that many; that was 25th in the league. Eli Manning threw a whopping 275 of those same pass attempts. Kirk Cousins went 202-for-268 on those throws, completing 75.1 percent of his attempts. That was the biggest reason why Cousins led the league in completion percentage (69.1 percent) this year.

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People love to pull that out their asses that all he does is dump which is the contrary. His passes average close to 10 through the air. Cook, though.

 

[DonKnock]

You're creating these fictional scenarios in your head. Yes, SOME fans say that it's all Brady, yet most are not saying that.

I've said it for years now, but outside of any QB, Gronk is THE single most important player to his teams success in the NFL, and it's not really even close. Of course Brady doesn't do it alone, and I'm not someone who thinks he's had zero weapons his entire career. However, the entire Cassel narrative is just off base.

AB for the Steelers is pretty close to Gronk in necessity

 

[No1]

I can't stand that muthafuka @BucciMane or his punk ass QB but he's right Barring injury Brady is gonna play for at least five more seasons at an elite level. He's never had to take real beatings because he's always had a line, his organization knows how to build around him and most importantly what they don't draft they go spend money on.

Josh Gordon will most likely be trade bait in Cleveland.

Calvin Johnson is going to get out of Detroit

Malcolm Floyd and Anquan Boldin are both free agents this year, both are old but they will be serviceable until 2017 when you have

Larry Fitzgerald
Vincent Jackson
Pierre Garcon
Deshaun Jackson
Emanuel Sanders
Marcus Colston
Ted Ginn Jr.
Doug Baldwin


All of them are potential free agents in 2017 (and there are more), we know some will resign but you will see some of these guys test free agency and who in their right mind wouldn't want to go play with Tom Brady?

I believe hes a system QB, hate him and his team but Tom Brady gets it done and so does his front office

This is the full list of possible wide receiver free agents for 2017


2017 NFL Free Agents Tracker

Define "system" QB and why have other NFL teams not adopted this system? How many system QBs have led the NFL in passing yards without a single pro bowl WR?

 

[SteelCitySoldier]

Define "system" QB and why have other NFL teams not adopted this system? How many system QBs have led the NFL in passing yards without a single pro bowl WR?

Bruh we ain't going through this again, it's a known fact that those together are the perfect match. It is what it is, I never understood why Patriots fans get mad when this is brought up
Call him a system QB who gives a shyt, he got rings, he keeps the Patriots in the playoffs and in contention for rings, he's going to the HOF.

As for the last question...that what makes the system great, they don't need a Pro Bowl WR to win games.

Accept it for what it is and when people like me say "he is a system QB" lol and respond "fukk it, that system keeps working" and keep it pushing

 

[dh86]

It's the 'system" he's in not him

Belichick has found cheap replacements for every single star he ever had but one. Wonder why

 

[No1]

Bruh we ain't going through this again, it's a known fact that those together are the perfect match. It is what it is, I never understood why Patriots fans get mad when this is brought up
Call him a system QB who gives a shyt, he got rings, he keeps the Patriots in the playoffs and in contention for rings, he's going to the HOF.

As for the last question...that what makes the system great, they don't need a Pro Bowl WR to win games.

Accept it for what it is and when people like me say "he is a system QB" lol and respond "fukk it, that system keeps working" and keep it pushing

No, we get mad because it's dumb and used as a way to downplay his talents. System QB is a pejorative term and you're playing dumb. No one can ever answer the question. Peyton Manning's offense is literally based on running about 10 plays and was designed specifically for him when he go to Indy, but no one calls him a "system QB." Tom Brady has been in a system with the same terminology for 15 years and run about 5 different variations of it successfully. Calling him a "system QB" is stupid. Every QB aspires to play in a system that maximizes his skill, that does not take away from their skills. How about we stop using that term to describe a guy who has a legitimate claim to being the GOAT? LOL@ "the system" meaning you don't need a Pro Bowl WR to win games. How about Tom Brady making it so that you don't need a Pro Bowl WR to win games. I recall Drew Bledsoe struggling in it and he left the Pats, got with Eric Moulds and Pierless Priece and passed for more yards than Brady. None of the facts back up anything you're saying.

But maybe I'm ignorant so go go ahead, what is the Patriots system? Answer that in two sentences and we'll move on.

 

[BucciMane]

AB for the Steelers is pretty close to Gronk in necessity

He's one WR I was wrong about. A few years ago I did not think he'd produce at the levels he's been producing at there past few seasons. Definitely a great player, but I would take a healthy Gronk over any WR..

With Brown being that important, we can discuss sending Bryant to New England for a third round pick and a cap dump.

 

[resurrection]

With Brown being that important, we can discuss sending Bryant to New England for a third round pick and a cap dump.

not a chance breh. We're keeping the band together. At least AB, Martavis, and probably Coates now too. You can have Wheaton for a 3rd tho he'd probably eat in your offense

 

[unit321]

He's 38 and showing no signs of slowing down which is mind boggling

He seems to be getting rid of the ball quicker then ever and not taking any bad hits at all

Is it possible he can play 5-10 years at a high level like he said he could by playing the way he is now with not taking bad hits?

This photo is hilarious considering the up-coming game.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

The very fact that you have to ask this question lets you know how fukkin nice this dude really is

Never thought I would say somebody was better than Joe Montana but Tom Brady is the greatest of all time..

 

[KOBE]

That's because Brady does/did make them great.

Let's not act like Cassel is some bum and is incapable of putting up similar #s in another 'system' -

2008 (last season with Patriots) - 3,600 yards on 516 attempts, 21 touchdowns and 11 intercepts
2010 (second season with Chiefs) - 3,100 yards on 450 attempts, 27 touchdowns and 7 intercepts

He definitely did make players better than what they were. He was great at it and one of the best QBs ever.

Now? Not at all. It's the system and it's silly to say Brady is doing something special out there except getting the ball out extremely fast. I'm not saying he's bad, I'm not saying he's no longer one of the best QBs, I'm saying he's regressed and people are giving him too much credit for an offense that isn't thriving because he's doing something amazing. I give him credit for his ability to run that fast paced offense to perfection, to hit his receivers when they get open, but he's not the one creating space in those routes at the START of plays. Edelman, in particular, creates space in a flash to catch those passes and so do the other receivers. The reason that offense is so successful is their ability to create open and continue to make those 5 yard plays that march them straight down the field and make the defenses give up those big plays for Gronk.

One thing the league really needs to crack down on is pick plays that both Broncos and Pats abuse to hell. That shyt needs to be made illegal whenever there's contact and refs need to call it more. It's hard as hell stopping receivers as it is with the no contact after 5 yards rule, there's no need for them to gain an edge through picks.

 

[BlackBall]

Belichick has found cheap replacements for every single star he ever had but one. Wonder why

Matt stafford up next ?

 

[Reggie]

I'll give Brady two more years of elite QB play. Now I realize that I may be shortchanging him a bit but when you get in your 30's your physical tools are liable to go at anytime. He may very well play at least 4 to 5 years at this level but I said 2 to be on the safe side.

 

[MF budz]

I think he can realistically play til 41-42. After that it's like why?