When have it became cool to Not believe in Jesus.(bible prophecy)

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I'm not telling them how to grieve my brother it's merely an example of how religion has pacified us.

If we even invest 10 percent of the money into the youth we would be much better off. There is no denying that.

'Black' people, in-total, have about 2-3% of the Nation's wealth and that's spread-out over about 100,000+ disparate communities in the Nation.

'White people' won't allow us to unite for a common cause and are specifically denying us the ability to do so at every turn at ALL levels of society.

The last time we came together as a community and actually built something substantial, they bombed it into the ground (Black Wall Street). The survivors have STILL not been compensated for what they went through.

Every time a 'Black' person has gained some type of following that could institute REAL change for us, they were assassinated or incarcerated (Marcus Garvey, Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X).

The absolute LAST thing 'White' people want is for 'Black' people to unite and they have done their job so well that many of us do their work for them.

Religion in any form is not 'pacifying' 'Black' people.

'White Supremacy' is.​

 

[Wiles]

The bible is a fictional story book breh

The name of the chick in your profile?

 

[IVS]

Here's the problem, Jesus is not mentioned in the Torah portion of Old Testament, the messiah is. There is no where in the Torah portion of the Old Testament that says the Messiah will be born of a virgin. There is no prophecy that makes the messiah a metaphoric passover or atonement lamb for sacrifice. There is no prophecy that a Peter, or a seat of Peter will have a special place until the messiah returns. When the messiah returned he is supposed to rule an everlasting kingdom.
Jesus did not die for your sins, because nowhere in the old testament does it say the messiah is supposed to die for somebodies sins.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Where was jesus when slavery was poppin?

He was in Mexico :mexpls:

 

[↓R↑LYB]

do u know slavery started in 1800 and the bible was written in 500 ad

Ignore the Arab slave trade brehs.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Been saying this the last few days.People making up crazy excuses not to attend church.

@going to church.

 

[Ghost_In_A_Shell]

Please read Deuteronomy 23:15-16​

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Leviticus 25:44-46 Bible Gateway passage: Leviticus 25:44-46 - New International Version

deut did not speak about slaves who where not from israel , they apparently could have been kept forever, without any say-so in the manner.

Religion was a minor justification​

The emphasis from proslavery defenders was always upon a literal reading of the Bible which represented the mind and will of God himself. Slaveholding was not only justified but also moral because it was recognized as such in Holy Scripture. Slavery's defenders relied on this literal reading as a response to the emphasis upon the "principles of Christianity" used by those opposed to slavery. Proslavery advocates continually contrasted the Tightness of their position, based on such a literal biblical reading, to the open-ended interpretive religion implied by those opposed to slavery. In 1820, for example, in the midst of the debates over Missouri statehood, the Richmond Enquirer went to elaborate lengths in a long editorial to emphasize the literal truth of the Bible and its sanction of slavery. After a long section giving various scriptural sanctions, the article concluded by giving "a plain concise statement of certain propositions that we presume few faithful believers will controvert."
http://www.kingscollege.net/gbrodie/The religious justification of slavery before 1830.pdf

How did religious beliefs shape the origins of the Civil War and President Abraham Lincoln's actions during the conflict? As Northern abolitionists and Southern slaveholders clashed over the question of slavery, each side turned to the Bible to argue its cause. Frederick Douglass, a former slave and abolitionist newspaper editor, despaired that people who called themselves Christians could defend the evils of slavery. Protestant denominations fractured, with each side declaring God was on its side. Meanwhile, Lincoln, who had put his faith in reason over revelation, confronted the mounting casualties of the war and the death of his young son. In his anguish, he began a spiritual journey that transformed his inner life and changed his ideas about God and the ultimate meaning of the Civil War.

The war was a theological as well as a political crisis. There were sharp disputes in America over what God might be doing in and through the war. For some, the turmoil of the war years called into question the belief that America was a chosen nation with a special destiny. The war also moved Lincoln to re-examine his own understanding of God's purposes and the role of divine Providence in human affairs. Six weeks after he delivered his stirring Second Inaugural Address on March 4, 1865, with its sermonlike language, deeply moral sentiments and conciliatory closing words, Lincoln was dead. For many he became a martyred prophet, and the Second Inaugural Address has come to be regarded as American Scripture.
God In America - Study Guide - A Nation Reborn (Episode 3)




but it is still a justification, is it not? the south tried to defend the practice using literal interpretations of the bible. literal. as in out of the book.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I respect the OP for the courage behind this thread. I understand how difficult it can be to try and put people on through witnessing.

I think that a lot of us try to hard to rationalize and place logic behind the things of God and His word. The bible says His ways are not our ways and His thoughts are not our thoughts. That means that we will never be able to understand why some things happen and why some things don't happen.

Slavery, death, etc. When you choose to be vengeful and hateful over things like that, you deny yourself wisdom and opportunity to understand how God works. Vengeance belongs to God.

If some of us would actually seek first the kingdom of God, our understanding would be increased. You can't comprehend spirituality with your physical eyes and minds. Two different things.

Go read this book and educate yourself breh. If you're a victim of the slave trade, your ancestors never even heard of Jesus or the bible until their enslavers forced them into Christianity, and the only reason you wore forced to convert was because the European church and monarchy commanded it. You've been deceived.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Can we just remember that the ekklesia\iglesia and basilica predate Christianity and Jesus. And they were political institutions that were subverted by Judeo-Christian and\or Catholic ideology doctrine.

Here's the problem, Jesus is not mentioned in the Old Testament, the messiah is. There is no where in the Torah portion of the Old Testament that says the Messiah will be born of a virgin. There is no prophecy that makes the messiah a metaphoric passover or atonement lamb for sacrifice. There is no prophecy that a Peter, or a seat of Peter will have a special place until the messiah returns. When the messiah returned he is supposed to rule an everlasting kingdom.
Jesus did not die for your sins, because nowhere in the old testament does it say the messiah is supposed to die for somebodies sins.

And in all honesty there is no messiahnic prophecy in the Torah portion of the OT. And thus its not in the initial 5 Mosaic writings. It was added later with the Nevi'im and Ketuvim.

Should take that into the Bible Study thread, but I'm afraid you'd get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of in there.

Too many agendas, not enough actual dialogue.

Good post, breh.​

 

[↓R↑LYB]

noones even mentioned the council of nicea???

let them cook breh

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Because all it did was distribute the text throughout the Empire.

The 'canon' was finalized a hundred and some-odd years before Constantine was even born.

J was 'deified' by Hebrews a few months after he was executed.

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No it didn't. The council of nicea didn't just distribute it. It was used to solidify church doctrine. Before the council many Christians never believed in Trinity, it was considered heresy.

 

[jjj123]

For all you dumb non-believing negros who think they are knowledgeable but know next to nothing...

Watch and learn

 

[↓R↑LYB]

I'll just leave this right here

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

@brother walt how does it make you feel that you wouldnt believe in or give a fukk about jesus if you were born in india?

or mesopotamia?

does it make you sad

I've bodied so many aggressive religious folks in real life wit dis simple geographical type example.

Err debate wit dese people always ends wit dem takin da ball and goin home. Da most simplest of shyt gets em completely flustered and tko'd.

 

[jjj123]

More knowledge for the non-believing...



As a former athiest/buddhist...the truth set me free. The elect, are the elect.