John Reena
Superstar
When Sting joined NWO Wolfpack. I was like, “Didnt these nigggaz have beef for a whole year n now they homeboys?!” I was DONE. Plus this was around the time Stone Cold Steve Austin was on tha rise, so I made the switch.
When did you first realise WCW was in decline?
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
As soon as hogun debuted in wcw.
Then subsequently flair agreed to be made a mockery of visually and workrate wise.
Once tha goblin removed any idea of quality versus flair.
Wcw became a weak ass product from that point.
Wcw also became weak.
when they removed the shooter vs rey me scene for hogun.
Those are the first easy two instances.
The next is eddy as us champion. Somehow being made into a mexican stereotype mockery of. While chasing after syxx like some texarra era cartoon with no direction.
The other time wcw got even worse. Was when flair went over for his last title win.
Over if i remember right jarrett.
Ready to offer a match to rey. As rey was the most over worker on card an angle then.
When wcw meets vkm goblin semantics came to ruin the angle. Then rey was regulated to being made a mockery of. Sneak attacked Lawn darted by kevin nash or some big is better trash worker.
then made to wear a dress style lwo shirt as the alternative angle.
Where they never even let him and eddy cook. As the goblin and clique feared any workrate being seen by the fans. To remind the fans how much their workrate was trash.
The original time when wcw was.for sure dead.
Was when nash was booker and he squashed wrath. When wrath should have destroyed him inring easy. Then the.next instance was ruining goldberg woth the cattle prod. Leading to the enfamous poke of doom. The clit is so low quality trash phoney. Even how goldberg is hit with the taser by hall weak ass is phoney as fukk.
Even the inevitable.
poke of doom is garbage.
as far as how trash visually it is executed.
Along with shyt trash pace timing and setup.
Art Barr
Art Barr
Then subsequently flair agreed to be made a mockery of visually and workrate wise.
Once tha goblin removed any idea of quality versus flair.
Wcw became a weak ass product from that point.
Wcw also became weak.
when they removed the shooter vs rey me scene for hogun.
Those are the first easy two instances.
The next is eddy as us champion. Somehow being made into a mexican stereotype mockery of. While chasing after syxx like some texarra era cartoon with no direction.
The other time wcw got even worse. Was when flair went over for his last title win.
Over if i remember right jarrett.
Ready to offer a match to rey. As rey was the most over worker on card an angle then.
When wcw meets vkm goblin semantics came to ruin the angle. Then rey was regulated to being made a mockery of. Sneak attacked Lawn darted by kevin nash or some big is better trash worker.
then made to wear a dress style lwo shirt as the alternative angle.
Where they never even let him and eddy cook. As the goblin and clique feared any workrate being seen by the fans. To remind the fans how much their workrate was trash.
The original time when wcw was.for sure dead.
Was when nash was booker and he squashed wrath. When wrath should have destroyed him inring easy. Then the.next instance was ruining goldberg woth the cattle prod. Leading to the enfamous poke of doom. The clit is so low quality trash phoney. Even how goldberg is hit with the taser by hall weak ass is phoney as fukk.
Even the inevitable.
poke of doom is garbage.
as far as how trash visually it is executed.
Along with shyt trash pace timing and setup.
Art Barr
Art Barr
XannyWarbucks
Superstar
This was legit one of the most nonsensical things that I ever watched and I was only 6 at the time. I know some people try to defend that Nash was over, but he certainly wasn't over enough to beat Goldberg. If people even remember the things leading up to the feud, Goldberg vs Bigelow and Goldberg vs Wrath were far bigger matches for Starrcade. shyt, I think the Nitro before was Bigelow and Goldberg just scrapping while Nash is standing there like a goof.
I can't pinpoint a moment, but I do think while Goldberg winning the belt was great, doing absolutely nothing with him was nuts. He legit had no feud until the DDP match and didn't get into the Bigelow stuff (which got dropped after Starrcade) until after WW3. He was the Champion, but did nothing because Nash was on the booking committee and didn't want to do anything with him.
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
Rell84shots
Veteran
Hogan acting like someone whose acid finally kicked in was my favorite part.Ultimate Warrior was my fave wrestler when I was a kid, so when WCW brought him in I was intrigued. Maaaaaan, that was the lamest shyt ever lol
The part where Warrior was in the mirror and everyone in the world except Eric Bischoff could see him was so hilariously bad
Yeah he was lol.
This .. Nash was one of the most popular guys in the business at the time. Before the match no one has a problem if Nash ended the streak. But only that, people starting to get tired of the streak, especially after they thought DDP was going to end it. People were getting tired of the streak. It was everything that happened afterwards mostly the finger poke of doom that created this revisionist bull shyt about Nash.
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
Nash vs Goldberg def had a big fight feel to it
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Kevin Nash is just a complete trash oaf guy inring or out.
the clit and their wack cronies along with vkm.
are why wrasslin is thought to be complete trash.
if people wonder why wrasslin has such shyt connected to it.
Look no further than Nash and vkm along with tha goblin.
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
stop.
Nash getting the book was just as shyt as any in the business if ever.
this is the most bullshyt ass take I ever seen a mark make.
no way Yousa smart.
we can point to anyone from crz to Keith and they would say different. When Keith is a hbk mark through and through too.
just stop.
art barr
Rell84shots
Veteran
Stop breh, At no point in WCW were Bigelow or Wrath more over or more important than Nash.Some of these fans saying this would also have you believe that Balor vs Ciampa should main event Wrestlemania.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
stop.
Goldberg v wrath should never been proposed in that time and era. As it made no sense to change wrath heel to feud with Goldberg at all.
Nash gooftard ass who had no idea of booking.
was not even smart enough to make another bf star when it was in his lap. When what nwa and wcw always lacked. Of which i discussed in the it is not lex luger's fault.
yet, he takes the blame erroneously rant too.
as wcw and nwa's main issue was always letting some heel on card book. Who has no idea how to create a boom frfr. Besides making controversy.
wcw and nwa always had the problem of a fool in booking. thinking a heel as the main focus.
is going to print more money than a hero.
it will not. Plus if you ruin any hero for a heel. You retroact any possibility.
for the promotion to draw with moving forward on a mainstream large level. It is the exact reason wcw always lost ultimately every time. No idea of crafting convincability for a bf.
wrath should never have faced Nash. Unless Nash was dropping the strap to wrath.
Nash came in and ruined any pathway for wcw to have a lane to catch WWF.
you can't beat nobody when you got one product centered around a bf. Who having a damn beer raising contest. That is visually as awstriking as any sports celebration in thr history of mankind. Wwf almost fukked up this dynamic. On scsa when he lost to kane.
yet vkm is crazy and was alongside Russo. So possibly Russo suggested sumfin so stoopid and vkm stepped in.
with his version of stoopid control.
that it did not hurt the comeuppance of the wwe.
as WWE always showed before cripple ache. that they understood at least. The bf is ultimately supposed to.go over. Wcw and nwa never understood this and that is why they are where they are. Wcw and nwa still do not understand this. nwa still does Not understand this at all even under corgan.
you have to create convincing bf champions to lead the product. If you do not.
it will be in danger of failing.
you can not book a kids product with Darth Vader as the lead and there is no luke Skywalker.
you will fail.
maybe not the first day.
yet you will fail.
YODA : FAIL YOU WILL
art barr
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
Please stop, Nash vs Goldberg was the big money match with the major feel. Bam Bam got a good reaction initially cause he was such a surprise, Wrath was a rising dude, but Wrath wasn’t getting huge reactions like that
Cartier Murphy
Apathy’s a Tragedy & Boredom is a Crime
Around the time the WCW games fell the fukk off. As a kid at points I cared more about either companies games than their shows, and WCW was winning that war till about 99. After Revenge, every single came they released was either mid (Mayhem) or just straight up garbage (Nitro, Thunder, Backstage Assault etc.) and for me by then the writing was on the wall. WWF had it on lock with WM2000 and No Mercy and both Smackdown games, they lapped WCW in the gaming world and wrestling world at the same damn time
richaveli83
Veteran
Now that I really think about it, when The Radicalz left to go to the WWF. At that point I really knew it was downhill. I remember the different forums I was on back in 2000 and that was everyone's sentiment too.