Religion/Spirituality what's with all the atheists on the coli?

[NoMayo15]

he is the law of nature.

the more math we do, the more science we do , the more things we discover we only DISCOVER and find what is already there
God is sitting at the white board with all of the equations that we have found, will find, and never will have time to sort thru. all of them on his white board.

I mean, you say this, but why does your holy book have god directly give out moral guidelines? Why is he having sons and smiting non believers? I could understand a deistic god, but when you make the leap to Christianity, you lose all credibility eih me. You don't believe god is the laws of nature.... At least, not JUST those laws.

 

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I don't believe in any deities. YOU do. Thats why the burden of proof is on you.

I'm not saying no deities exist, and I can't prove a negative.

I'm merely saying that I'm not convinced to accept such a claim.

Not what I'm asking. I'm asking you what would you consider a diety not whether they exist or not.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Not what I'm asking. I'm asking you what would you consider a diety not whether they exist or not.

I don't know what I consider a deity. I don't even know how to answer such a question. If I was to infer something to any degree, I'd be responsible for backing it up and as of yet, I have no reason to even purport anything to a certain degree about what a deity is. I've seen nothing to make me want to take that stance.

I see no need to invoke a universe of any sort into understanding how the world works.

 

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I don't know what I consider a deity. I don't even know how to answer such a question. If I was to infer something to any degree, I'd be responsible for backing it up and as of yet, I have no reason to even purport anything to a certain degree about what a deity is. I've seen nothing to make me want to take that stance.

I see no need to invoke a universe of any sort into understanding how the world works.

Let me word the question this way:

Its not about facts its about definition. Its about you describing to me as to what you would consider a diety.

Its all what ifs here not us assuming one really exists.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Let me word the question this way:

Its not about facts its about definition. Its about you describing to me as to what you would consider a diety.

Its all what ifs here not us assuming one really exists.

I don't play the "what if" game.

If we're not talking about SOMETHING, then we're not talking about ANYTHING.

I'm not considering anything a deity because I have not seen anything I'd call a deity and I have not encountered or learned of anything that would make me adopt that title.

I see no need to use that title or give anything that classification.

You keep wanting to make it seem like a god exists in so much as you can create something you don't understand and then call it a god.

 

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I don't play the "what if" game.

If we're not talking about SOMETHING, then we're not talking about ANYTHING.

I'm not considering anything a deity because I have not seen anything I'd call a deity and I have not encountered or learned of anything that would make me adopt that title.

I see no need to use that title or give anything that classification.

You keep wanting to make it seem like a god exists in so much as you can create something you don't understand and then call it a god.

Its not about facts its about what you think the defintion of a diety is.

If I asked you to describe me a dragon you should be able to do that just like describing a diety.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Its not about facts its about what you think the defintion of a diety is.

If I asked you to describe me a dragon you should be able to do that just like describing a diety.

I don't even know what a deity is. To you, its whatever you don't understand or just want to say its just some undefined entity "out there"

There are different types of dragons that people have reinforced images of. Komodo? Super Mario? King Arthur? I mean...come on now.

Just dead this convo.

 

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I don't even know what a deity is. To you, its whatever you don't understand or just want to say its just some undefined entity "out there"

There are different types of dragons that people have reinforced images of. Komodo? Super Mario? King Arthur? I mean...come on now.

Just dead this convo.

Well if you don't even know how to describe a diety then you can't judge what a diety is.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Well if you don't even know how to describe a diety then you can't judge what a diety is.

Thats not my responsibility.

You presupposed a diety and when asked what your deity is (since the burden of proof rests on you), all you do is invoke things about the universe you don't understand.

 

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Thats not my responsibility.

You presupposed a diety and when asked what your deity is (since the burden of proof rests on you), all you do is invoke things about the universe you don't understand.

I already described the deity and you said that its cannot be considered a diety yet you can even explain what a diety is.

So I'm basically saying if you can't describe it then you don't know what you talking about.

I make guesses about the unknown big deal. You expect us to be like robots or something and never guess anything.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I already described the deity and you said that its cannot be considered a diety yet you can even explain what a diety is.

Your deity isn't what you're claiming it is. Thats the problem.

So I'm basically saying if you can't describe it then you don't know what you talking about.

Thats precisely what I'm talking about.

I make guesses about the unknown big deal. You expect us to be like robots or something and never guess anything.

And I already told you the problem with guesses.

They don't tell you anything. Guesses don't get you any closer to what you want to prove and they don't even allow you to discern whats actually true.

Guesses are wastes of time. Stop guessing and start demonstrating things.

 

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Your deity isn't what you're claiming it is. Thats the problem.

Thats precisely what I'm talking about.

And I already told you the problem with guesses.

They don't tell you anything. Guesses don't get you any closer to what you want to prove and they don't even allow you to discern whats actually true.

Guesses are wastes of time. Stop guessing and start demonstrating things.

I'm claiming its a diety. If your saying its not and can't even describe what a diety is then you don't know what your talking about.

I can demonstrate and guess. You can do both you know.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm claiming its a diety. If your saying its not and can't even describe what a diety is then you don't know what your talking about.

Your deity makes no fukking sense since what you're claiming it to be can be described in other manners and concepts.

Thats like saying "god" controls lightning prior to the 17th century...then learning what electricity is.

I can demonstrate and guess. You can do both you know.

You absolutely can...but don't equate the two, and don't expect me to have patience for you not demonstrating or substantiating anything you're guessing.

Your guesses are fukking worthless since they don't get anywhere.

 

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Your deity makes no fukking sense since what you're claiming it to be can be described in other manners and concepts.

Thats like saying "god" controls lightning prior to the 17th century...then learning what electricity is.

You absolutely can...but don't equate the two, and don't expect me to have patience for you not demonstrating or substantiating anything you're guessing.

Your guesses are fukking worthless since they don't get anywhere.

I'm not claiming anything. I'm just guessing. Yes you can find many other ways to describe it but describing it as a diety is one of them

You example is based on a possibility that because truth. You can't say that in this scenario because there is only a possibility and not any truth.

Don't equate the two? I never equated the two in fact I have he saying many times that I made a guess and never asserted anything as truth.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm not claiming anything. I'm just guessing. Yes you can find many other ways to describe it but describing it as a diety is one of them

You might as well call a tree a fukking deity, dumbass. Since you're playing fast and loose with language now.

Holy fukk you're annoying.

You example is based on a possibility that because truth. You can't say that in this scenario because there is only a possibility and not any truth.

These two sentences don't make any fukking sense.

Don't equate the two? I never equated the two in fact I have he saying many times that I made a guess and never asserted anything as truth.

Well if all you're going to do is keep guessing, I'm done with this conversation. I'm not interested in guessing. I'm interested in confirming things and getting to actually learning things and dismissing false things.

I'm not replying after this.