Self_Born7
SUN OF MAN
ok,,, school me then
Whats the coli's opinion on Voodoo?
- Thread starter Dank Hill
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no you school me. this is why i hate that alot black have that "invincible" mentality. yall world get shook up, then crawl in your little holes because yall realize YOU ARE HUMAN!ok,,, school me then
talking about white supremacy making people forget, nikka ya'll scared!
Self_Born7
SUN OF MAN
Voodoo is championed as a folk religion.
You will be surprised how many Haitians, Cubans, Dominicans, and Mexicans practice this ancient religion.
But it does have it limitations.
I can understand the allure, but another thing to keep in mind. I won't say the spirits are good or bad, but those spirits do give off bad vibes. This is why parents warn the kids never to go into the altar room, especially when the parents are doing their rites. They keep the kids away from the spirits, because the results are usually very tragic.
notPsychosiz
I started this gangsta sh-
I was watching this reality show where a voodoo priest a vampire a witch and some regular boring church folks all try and live in the same house.
But they voted the one black guy out on the first night so I stopped after that one episodes.
I only watch contests shows as long there are black ppl on them. Soon as the last black person is off the show I'm out... don't care if its the ep before the finale or the pilot.
Stopped watching another show after the pilot awhile back where they had to move a million dollars in cash from LA to Vegas or something...
They voted the black dude off in the pilot so thats all I ever watched.
But they voted the one black guy out on the first night so I stopped after that one episodes.
I only watch contests shows as long there are black ppl on them. Soon as the last black person is off the show I'm out... don't care if its the ep before the finale or the pilot.
Stopped watching another show after the pilot awhile back where they had to move a million dollars in cash from LA to Vegas or something...
They voted the black dude off in the pilot so thats all I ever watched.
WICKED VOODOO DOPE DARK KILLA
don't believe in it?
i'm rollin with the beyond you motherfukks
i'll make a voodoo doll of you and flick your nuts
there was another thread pertaining to this but
In an effort to prevent the phenomenon that is term "folk-etymology" in what is defined as linguistic analysis, you would do what is termed a cross language comparison of those linguistic terms to get to the crux of their meanings that may be forgotten in one language or that of another. Now, when it comes tonames of deities, often a culture will not remember the original meaning of said name, or they will disregard it because it never was what would be considered as being originated in their language. In laymans terms, its borrowing.
Given the results of not knowing the very true meaning of a word, a speech community will often proceed to analyze the name from within a language by proceeding to analyze the name from within a language by proceeding to try and break the word down utilizing words from their own language that they perceive to make sense to them. Some within that of the Black community have a tendency to do this alot, for example with the word "history" by turning it into "his-story". This is a prime example of what would be consider folk-etymology (etymology done by the common folk with no knowledge of what is called historical comparative linguistic techniques for ascertaining the true meaning of terms.)
Folk-etymology has been done inside that of the Yoruba tradition with name for a prevalent goddess Yemoja. Folk-etymology reasons that the name Yemoja when defined means "mother of fishes". This is an error for various amount of reasons. For one, the term eje in the Yoruba language is "fish". They however did get the term for "mother" right, which ye. Ofiya is variant of "mother", it can be pronounced as iye. It is technically a term for "life" and has cognates with Yoruba Eyo, "the dead come back to life", "bush animal" -oya , "salvation, survival, life" - iye (< ye "to live through, to survive" ), "life, world", -aye, "wife" -aya; "living being" - hebrew hay.
The fundamental motivation behind why Yemoja is rendered on occasion as "mother of fishes" is on account of it is connected with "water", there is a word eje in the Yoruba dialect which signify "fish". Given a "fish" lives in "water", the general population of Yoruba have made a calculated association with the word. In any case, they neglect to accommodate the - m-phoneme in YeMoja. In any case it can't speak to "of" the relational word since this is rendered in Yoruba as niti or ti "of". You additionally need to accommodate the - o-after - m-as the term eje does not have the - o-sound. We now realize that the m is not the constant molecule m/n since they are border to verbs and "fish" is not a verb. It ought to be noted "mo" can't be the pronoun mo "I" since it wouldn't bode well in the sentence: Ye-"mother" + mo "I" + eje "fish" = Mother I Fish (a three thing sentence). It makes it harder to accommodate when one notes that Yemoja can likewise be rendered as Yemaja (Yemaya in the Diaspora)
It argued here that Yemoja is simply a name meaning "Mother (of) waters" or "The (living) spirit of waters or simply "Living waters". The Niger-Congo word moja is a term for "water" and also has a cognate with the Kiswahili-Bantu language as moji "waters". There is also a cognate may'im in Hebrew (where 'im is plural marker within Semitic). A-man-n in Berber "water"; Ma-n "sea" Cushytic (Somali) ; Ngala banai Poto mai "water" Mwy Egyptian "watery, moist", "water, semen, fluid, oedema, "rain". the sound /i/ and /y/ are interchangable (/j/ also), and are in fact variants of each other. The term for "water" within Yoruba is omi and moja. -Ja- in Yemoja is the root and comes from Proto-Western-Sudanic *gi *gia "water"; Kpelle ya "water"; Mano yi "water". [Readers Note: g>y>j>i]. The -m- morpheme i an old Niger-Congo noun class utilize to denote mass liquids.
My view is that the goddess Yemoja/Yemaja/Yemaya comes further south of Nigeria in Gabon among the Mitsogho speakers. In the book "The Pygmies Were Our Compass (2003; pgs 135-136) author Dr Karin Kleiman discusses this goddess within a Mitsogho context. Among the Mitsogho, wind and water are seen as forces of creation and fecundity. The importance is with the latter is related with that of Ya Mwei is also the focus of one ofthe most important men's societies in Gabon. This goddess is perceive to have an influence over the maintenance of social order. The society makes it mandatory that those young initates (7-8 yrs old) undergo a series of proofs consider challenging at a initiation camp with the forest. It is there that they proceed to obtain her knowledge. Ya Mwei is also associated with particular waterfalls or cascades. Those adepts frequent these locations to decipher the messages that she sends. Ya Mwei is the cardinal symbol of fertility and is often assimilated with Earth as well.
Yemoja isn't "The Mother of Fishes", be that as it may it is essentially "living waters", the birthing power found inside of water. Water is life and life is symbolized by "wind" and"water". Likewise noted, Ya Mwei is connected with "earth" and I reason that the earth is additionally viewed as a "womb" and all life originates from the "womb" profound inside of the earth. Before showing up ashore it must "emerge" from the "sea" simply like individuals burst from our moms womb. Yemoja/Ya mwei is essentially the life rule itself spoke to by water. Since the Yoruba did not have - moja local to its dialect, they reanalyzed and birthed a myth and imagery encompassing her roots in their elucidation of the name from inside of the Yoruba dialect.
This is the reason we cross look at African dialects and societies in light of the fact that related dialects and societies give urgent bits of thee riddle that have been misintrepret as a consequence of normal dialect change, semantic slippage + relocation
In an effort to prevent the phenomenon that is term "folk-etymology" in what is defined as linguistic analysis, you would do what is termed a cross language comparison of those linguistic terms to get to the crux of their meanings that may be forgotten in one language or that of another. Now, when it comes tonames of deities, often a culture will not remember the original meaning of said name, or they will disregard it because it never was what would be considered as being originated in their language. In laymans terms, its borrowing.
Given the results of not knowing the very true meaning of a word, a speech community will often proceed to analyze the name from within a language by proceeding to analyze the name from within a language by proceeding to try and break the word down utilizing words from their own language that they perceive to make sense to them. Some within that of the Black community have a tendency to do this alot, for example with the word "history" by turning it into "his-story". This is a prime example of what would be consider folk-etymology (etymology done by the common folk with no knowledge of what is called historical comparative linguistic techniques for ascertaining the true meaning of terms.)
Folk-etymology has been done inside that of the Yoruba tradition with name for a prevalent goddess Yemoja. Folk-etymology reasons that the name Yemoja when defined means "mother of fishes". This is an error for various amount of reasons. For one, the term eje in the Yoruba language is "fish". They however did get the term for "mother" right, which ye. Ofiya is variant of "mother", it can be pronounced as iye. It is technically a term for "life" and has cognates with Yoruba Eyo, "the dead come back to life", "bush animal" -oya , "salvation, survival, life" - iye (< ye "to live through, to survive" ), "life, world", -aye, "wife" -aya; "living being" - hebrew hay.
The fundamental motivation behind why Yemoja is rendered on occasion as "mother of fishes" is on account of it is connected with "water", there is a word eje in the Yoruba dialect which signify "fish". Given a "fish" lives in "water", the general population of Yoruba have made a calculated association with the word. In any case, they neglect to accommodate the - m-phoneme in YeMoja. In any case it can't speak to "of" the relational word since this is rendered in Yoruba as niti or ti "of". You additionally need to accommodate the - o-after - m-as the term eje does not have the - o-sound. We now realize that the m is not the constant molecule m/n since they are border to verbs and "fish" is not a verb. It ought to be noted "mo" can't be the pronoun mo "I" since it wouldn't bode well in the sentence: Ye-"mother" + mo "I" + eje "fish" = Mother I Fish (a three thing sentence). It makes it harder to accommodate when one notes that Yemoja can likewise be rendered as Yemaja (Yemaya in the Diaspora)
It argued here that Yemoja is simply a name meaning "Mother (of) waters" or "The (living) spirit of waters or simply "Living waters". The Niger-Congo word moja is a term for "water" and also has a cognate with the Kiswahili-Bantu language as moji "waters". There is also a cognate may'im in Hebrew (where 'im is plural marker within Semitic). A-man-n in Berber "water"; Ma-n "sea" Cushytic (Somali) ; Ngala banai Poto mai "water" Mwy Egyptian "watery, moist", "water, semen, fluid, oedema, "rain". the sound /i/ and /y/ are interchangable (/j/ also), and are in fact variants of each other. The term for "water" within Yoruba is omi and moja. -Ja- in Yemoja is the root and comes from Proto-Western-Sudanic *gi *gia "water"; Kpelle ya "water"; Mano yi "water". [Readers Note: g>y>j>i]. The -m- morpheme i an old Niger-Congo noun class utilize to denote mass liquids.
My view is that the goddess Yemoja/Yemaja/Yemaya comes further south of Nigeria in Gabon among the Mitsogho speakers. In the book "The Pygmies Were Our Compass (2003; pgs 135-136) author Dr Karin Kleiman discusses this goddess within a Mitsogho context. Among the Mitsogho, wind and water are seen as forces of creation and fecundity. The importance is with the latter is related with that of Ya Mwei is also the focus of one ofthe most important men's societies in Gabon. This goddess is perceive to have an influence over the maintenance of social order. The society makes it mandatory that those young initates (7-8 yrs old) undergo a series of proofs consider challenging at a initiation camp with the forest. It is there that they proceed to obtain her knowledge. Ya Mwei is also associated with particular waterfalls or cascades. Those adepts frequent these locations to decipher the messages that she sends. Ya Mwei is the cardinal symbol of fertility and is often assimilated with Earth as well.
Yemoja isn't "The Mother of Fishes", be that as it may it is essentially "living waters", the birthing power found inside of water. Water is life and life is symbolized by "wind" and"water". Likewise noted, Ya Mwei is connected with "earth" and I reason that the earth is additionally viewed as a "womb" and all life originates from the "womb" profound inside of the earth. Before showing up ashore it must "emerge" from the "sea" simply like individuals burst from our moms womb. Yemoja/Ya mwei is essentially the life rule itself spoke to by water. Since the Yoruba did not have - moja local to its dialect, they reanalyzed and birthed a myth and imagery encompassing her roots in their elucidation of the name from inside of the Yoruba dialect.
This is the reason we cross look at African dialects and societies in light of the fact that related dialects and societies give urgent bits of thee riddle that have been misintrepret as a consequence of normal dialect change, semantic slippage + relocation
The Odum of Ala Igbo
Hail Biafra!
Someone should make an Afro-Diasporic Religions thread!
Remy Danton
All Star
quit being lazy and make one breh lol
tetrodotoxin
Vodun is one of the oldest if not the oldest Spirituality Man has practice. As a Religion it is the progenitor of nearly all current religions.... in that you can find concepts that first appeared in Vodun.
The Great difference between Vodoo and most religions is that Vodoo is about experiencing God, while most Religion is about talking about God.
Jesus Christ celebrated Miracle to have raised from the dead.....vodun practitioners do this on the regular - when compared to other religions. There you also see a similarity raising the dead and raising from the dead, which in Vodun predates both Kemetic and Judeo-Christianity.
Vodun latest great achievement is to have defeated several attacks by the French and the Spanish and maintains its freedom for 100's of years.....this is the root of the propaganda of Vodun being evil.
Vodun is one of the oldest if not the oldest Spirituality Man has practice. As a Religion it is the progenitor of nearly all current religions.... in that you can find concepts that first appeared in Vodun.
The Great difference between Vodoo and most religions is that Vodoo is about experiencing God, while most Religion is about talking about God.
Jesus Christ celebrated Miracle to have raised from the dead.....vodun practitioners do this on the regular - when compared to other religions. There you also see a similarity raising the dead and raising from the dead, which in Vodun predates both Kemetic and Judeo-Christianity.
Vodun latest great achievement is to have defeated several attacks by the French and the Spanish and maintains its freedom for 100's of years.....this is the root of the propaganda of Vodun being evil.
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BENIN AND TOGO: LAND OF THE AFRICAN GODS
2/22/2016
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Contemporary Africa can be defined by what I call the Humpty-Dumpty paradigm - trying to seamlessly piece back together Humpty-Dumpty after he fell off the wall. Humpty-Dumpty is the nursery rhyme version of the “World Egg” that comes down to us from the ancient cosmogony of Egypt, the Egg broken into a hundred pieces. The whole thing seems like Mission Impossible and yet...
One has little (or no) idea of the power that resides in Africa; even most Africans in Africa seem oblivious to it. Benin and Togo are the Land of the Vodũ and I would be willing to give a 100% guarantee that if one ever deigned to visit, especially under the guidance of Erick Gbodossou, one would be maximally impacted, willingly or no. Gbodossou is a practicing physician born and raised in Benin – the epicenter of the old empire of Dahomey – who, however, lives and works just outside of Dakar, Senegal. Under the tutelage of his grandfather he was deeply instructed in the world system of the Vodũ and today can be considered an adept. The Vodũ are the spiritual Powers of the Fon and Ewe people of Benin and Togo of which there are 41 major ones. Their direct counterparts elsewhere in Africa are the neters of ancient Egypt, the rabs of the Senegalese Lebu, the abosom of the Akan of Ghana, the nommo of the Dogon of Mali, and the orishas of the Nigerian Yoruba. The destinies of the Universe and of humanity are directed by these Powers. The Supreme Being of the Vodũ pantheon isMawu, the Goddess of the Ocean, usually linked with Lissa, considered either her son or her husband. Or both.
The place – Benin/Togo – is intense with spiritual power everywhere making one fairly vibrate every waking moment. The tour starts with attendance at the annual Vodũ Festival (January 10th of every year since 1993), a day-long parade of chiefs, priests, priestesses, dummers, and dancers representing Vodũ temples from around the country. Indescribable is what it is. One co-traveler from the Bahamas wanted to leave straight-away to go back to Nassau so he could tell his countrymen who celebrateJunkanoo twice a year where their celebration comes from, virtually intact. It is veritably a feast for the eyes and the senses. The next day the rounds of the Vodũ temples begin, starting with the Temple of the Pythons, dedicated to Danh, the Rainbow Serpent of the Heaven. One has the option of having one of the pythons draped around one’s neck. These pythons, 4-5 feet long, are entirely tame and non-venomous. They are not captives; when it is time to eat they slide out of the temple and into the bush in search of prey. When they find one and make a meal of it, they then slither right back into the temple. The group then enters the temple where 15-20 of them live and if one silently beckons them, they will come and slither across the feet. One gets to like it, unaccountably so if one has customarily found snakes repellant as most people do. I could have stayed longer; strange as it may seem it is like I could have had a dialogue with them. It was that kind of place. One comes away with a different idea about snakes, at least the non-venomous ones.
The next stop was to the Door of No Return in Ouidah, the major slave-trading port in old Dahomey. Benin - formerly Dahomey - is one of several West African countries, Ghana is another, that has formally apologized for its role in the slave trade and has erected a memorial to that scarring historical episode. The Beninois do not shrink from acknowledging the consequences of their complicity and culpability in the slave trade and will discuss it freely and frankly. The Dahomeyan empire was built on slave-raiding and slave-trading with the Europeans in exchange for guns. Because of recurrent wars with the Yoruba state of Oyo in western Nigerian, Yoruba captives would be sold to slave traders by the Dahomeans and Dahomean captives would be sold into slavery by Oyo though each state raided for slaves everywhere in that part of Africa. It is a deeply emotional place to visit for African-Americans in the same way as Gorée Island in Dakar and Cape Coast Castle in Ghana. Periodically, offerings and prayers are offered oceanside to those African souls who died during the Middle Passage and lie buried in the sea. The hurricanes that hit the Caribbean and western Atlantic every year actually form off this same African coast and apparently follow the routes of the slave ships to the Americas. There are those who insist this storm pattern is caused by the as-yet un-reconciled spirits of those slaves who ended their lives at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
BENIN AND TOGO: LAND OF THE AFRICAN GODS
2/22/2016
2 Comments
Contemporary Africa can be defined by what I call the Humpty-Dumpty paradigm - trying to seamlessly piece back together Humpty-Dumpty after he fell off the wall. Humpty-Dumpty is the nursery rhyme version of the “World Egg” that comes down to us from the ancient cosmogony of Egypt, the Egg broken into a hundred pieces. The whole thing seems like Mission Impossible and yet...
One has little (or no) idea of the power that resides in Africa; even most Africans in Africa seem oblivious to it. Benin and Togo are the Land of the Vodũ and I would be willing to give a 100% guarantee that if one ever deigned to visit, especially under the guidance of Erick Gbodossou, one would be maximally impacted, willingly or no. Gbodossou is a practicing physician born and raised in Benin – the epicenter of the old empire of Dahomey – who, however, lives and works just outside of Dakar, Senegal. Under the tutelage of his grandfather he was deeply instructed in the world system of the Vodũ and today can be considered an adept. The Vodũ are the spiritual Powers of the Fon and Ewe people of Benin and Togo of which there are 41 major ones. Their direct counterparts elsewhere in Africa are the neters of ancient Egypt, the rabs of the Senegalese Lebu, the abosom of the Akan of Ghana, the nommo of the Dogon of Mali, and the orishas of the Nigerian Yoruba. The destinies of the Universe and of humanity are directed by these Powers. The Supreme Being of the Vodũ pantheon isMawu, the Goddess of the Ocean, usually linked with Lissa, considered either her son or her husband. Or both.
The place – Benin/Togo – is intense with spiritual power everywhere making one fairly vibrate every waking moment. The tour starts with attendance at the annual Vodũ Festival (January 10th of every year since 1993), a day-long parade of chiefs, priests, priestesses, dummers, and dancers representing Vodũ temples from around the country. Indescribable is what it is. One co-traveler from the Bahamas wanted to leave straight-away to go back to Nassau so he could tell his countrymen who celebrateJunkanoo twice a year where their celebration comes from, virtually intact. It is veritably a feast for the eyes and the senses. The next day the rounds of the Vodũ temples begin, starting with the Temple of the Pythons, dedicated to Danh, the Rainbow Serpent of the Heaven. One has the option of having one of the pythons draped around one’s neck. These pythons, 4-5 feet long, are entirely tame and non-venomous. They are not captives; when it is time to eat they slide out of the temple and into the bush in search of prey. When they find one and make a meal of it, they then slither right back into the temple. The group then enters the temple where 15-20 of them live and if one silently beckons them, they will come and slither across the feet. One gets to like it, unaccountably so if one has customarily found snakes repellant as most people do. I could have stayed longer; strange as it may seem it is like I could have had a dialogue with them. It was that kind of place. One comes away with a different idea about snakes, at least the non-venomous ones.
The next stop was to the Door of No Return in Ouidah, the major slave-trading port in old Dahomey. Benin - formerly Dahomey - is one of several West African countries, Ghana is another, that has formally apologized for its role in the slave trade and has erected a memorial to that scarring historical episode. The Beninois do not shrink from acknowledging the consequences of their complicity and culpability in the slave trade and will discuss it freely and frankly. The Dahomeyan empire was built on slave-raiding and slave-trading with the Europeans in exchange for guns. Because of recurrent wars with the Yoruba state of Oyo in western Nigerian, Yoruba captives would be sold to slave traders by the Dahomeans and Dahomean captives would be sold into slavery by Oyo though each state raided for slaves everywhere in that part of Africa. It is a deeply emotional place to visit for African-Americans in the same way as Gorée Island in Dakar and Cape Coast Castle in Ghana. Periodically, offerings and prayers are offered oceanside to those African souls who died during the Middle Passage and lie buried in the sea. The hurricanes that hit the Caribbean and western Atlantic every year actually form off this same African coast and apparently follow the routes of the slave ships to the Americas. There are those who insist this storm pattern is caused by the as-yet un-reconciled spirits of those slaves who ended their lives at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
notPsychosiz
I started this gangsta sh-
I was watching this reality show where a voodoo priest a vampire a witch and some regular boring church folks all try and live in the same house.
But they voted the one black guy out on the first night so I stopped after that one episodes.
I only watch contests shows as long there are black ppl on them. Soon as the last black person is off the show I'm out... don't care if its the ep before the finale or the pilot.
Stopped watching another show after the pilot awhile back where they had to move a million dollars in cash from LA to Vegas or something...
They voted the black dude off in the pilot so thats all I ever watched.
Found it if anyone wants to see it.
Like I said tho... black dude gets voted off ep1 then I stopped watching... I dont fukk with reality shows with no black contestants left
Theres a voodoo chick on here... but its prob fake. IDK