What was worse J.Cole apologizing or Drake having ghost writers.

[Deltron]

Cole said nothing that warranted an apology though. Compare the disses that Nas and Jay were trading to the Cole and Kendrick exchange.

yeah, what cole said was lightweight, hilarious how it "weighed on his soul" ...over dramatic ass

 

[Ineedmoney504]

ghostwriting.

Cole apologizing is pretty but Hov did it too, cause his mama told him, and the same people (like Mal from R&M) dikkride hov and ignore the fact he apologized...but say Cole can't be talking about the big 3/being the best anymore.

Drake can be the best with ghostwriters

but cole can't be cause he apologized?

Jay didn’t apologize for dissing nas. He apologized cause people thought he went too far. And at the time saying you left condoms in a baby seat was probably too far lol.

But he was still dissing nas constantly.

He was going up to the radio station freestyle dissing, s. Carter mixtape dissing, bp2 dissing.

Cole apologized for even dissing Kendrick

 

[Van Cleef]

cole apologizing that nikka a hoe

 

[BK The Great]

Having ghostwriters will never be accepted. At least Cole writes his shyt. Still looks bad to apologize but it's warranted with Cole since he's not the type to really go at anyone unless someone tested him.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Drake is worse.. this manufactured beef ain’t shyt and Cole said it ain’t worth it to continue lol. I mean didn’t Kendrick diss Drake for having a ghostwriter?

 

[Budda]

Ghostwriters

 

[BronxFleeZ]

Yo bro… I can’t believe nikkas is even have a conversation about this. Yea, cook cole for bowing out like a ballet dancer. But to compare it to the possibly worst thing to happen to an artist (rapper ESPECIALLY) which was get exposed for not WRITING their RHYMES, y’all are fried. You think cole couldn’t sleep at night imagine the moments after Meeks tweets.

 

[FTBS]

ghostwriting.

Cole apologizing is pretty but Hov did it too, cause his mama told him, and the same people (like Mal from R&M) dikkride hov and ignore the fact he apologized...but say Cole can't be talking about the big 3/being the best anymore.

Drake can be the best with ghostwriters

but cole can't be cause he apologized?

People are upset and they are within their rights to be. But as per usual, nikkas dont know when to stop. You wanna say its wack or weak or whatever? Cool. But nikkas wanna act like its this unheard of sin and that you cant bounce back from. Meanwhile Jay is widely considered GOAT

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

You have to define what you mean by using writers.

She is not going into rooms picking demos out a pile and singing over them, a la Rihanna or Britney Spears. She has had co-writers before and still works with people but that is different from "using writers" like a sweatshop lol

If you don’t have proof your just lying. Period.


Its known Taylor Swift writes or co-writes her own songs. Obviously nothing any of us care about but she’s BEEN solidified for writing. Drake on the other hand, is a fraud and we’ve got the reference tracks to prove it. Reference tracks for SEVERAL songs. These aren’t “allegations” we’re just throwing around, the reference tracks are out there right now on YouTube you can pull up for proof.

This “everybody does it” nonsense is bullshyt. Some MC’s take pride in their pens like Scarface, who turned down Jay-Z’s offer to write a hit for him, some care only about how the music itself comes out and don’t mind having shyt written for them, like Kanye West, some may have a line or two thrown their way but mostly write their own shyt like some members of the Wu-Tang, it is what it is. But if you’ve got a nikka writing entire verses for you then you can’t EVER be the greatest or be in contention for the greatest. Nas, Jay, Lupe, Kendrick, Biggie, Rakim, KRS, ANYONE whose ever been seriously considered for the position of the GOAT is writing their own lyrics and has proof of such. Kendrick was basically TDE’s secret Ghostwriter whilst being one of the biggest stars on the planet. The nikka wrote Jay Rock’s Money Trees verse (people slid that under the rug) in FULL.

So miss me with that “If you operate at a high level you can’t write” bullshyt.

again different levels she might be presented with a track that has single chorus or bridge and then she does the rest, not like beyonce or rihanna where they're presented with the entire song. again this isn't a one size fits all shoe, people used these tools in the way they want to. i literally just came back from a writing camp. again im not saying they had the whole song written for them but usually they might be presented with a track that already has chorus or bridge and they do the rest
@Ziggiy you from atlanta right? you know how many writing camps qc has done, fukk is you talking about

Name a non-goofy new nikka MC that has writers. In the MC lane. Everyone says this but never drops names and/or has any real proof.

most these nikkas have someone writing their hooks, they pen their own verses but most can't write a catchy hook for shyt but im talking about TOP level acts not your b list level or c list level act

edit: or maybe ya'll get stuck on the semantics of the word ghost writer and co-writer so how about this, every major act has used a 3rd party writer knowingly and unknowingly

 

[Drake's Tan]

r/jcole just got locked by mods because so many people are clowning him in it

To follow up, this post was started before the mods locked it.



Some pretty funny comments, but this stands out:

 

[Drake's Tan]

Drakes is worse. The problem with Cole is that his fanbase is much more hip hop focused so the type of shyt he was spitting has less impact/belivable and they care more

This sums up my view on it.

Cole will bounce back but he'll always have this looming over him. People will make fun of him for it, his stans will defend and Juelz it.

Difference is Drake fans really don't care about artistic integrity and "MCing" while Cole fans do. So his error will carry more weight on him personally even though Drake's offense was worse.

 

[TL15]

Hilarious that people think a real dude apologizing is worse than a fake dude acting tough with someone else’s lyrics

 

[Mike18jj]

What Cole did was p*ssy, but Drake music aside is the corniest rapper ever. This nikka is about to be 40 years old and has to answer to Jprince/Lebron before he does something like a 5 year old. He has the balls to claim to be the best while having his OVO artists write for him on demand like a chinese sweatshop. This nikka let T.I homeboy piss on him without knocking him the fukk out.

Save your reples I don't care how much you love him ok he's corny to me and that's that.

 

[Mindfield333]

Drake having ghost writers ruined IYRTITL for me. But I should’ve known something was wrong because he wasn’t as insecure on that album and had different flows with swagger

 

[Left.A1]

@JoelB come here you incompetent savage

You told yourself the general consensus was Cole was losing fans and support by the droves. That it wasn't your biased twitter feed that was critical of him.

They ran that man's numbers up to highest they've ever been on the platform wow



Intellect and Substantiation >>>> Savagery


How embarrassing.....yet again