What was worse J.Cole apologizing or Drake having ghost writers.

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Yall not understanding I’m not saying she doesn’t write a majority of music but she has used writers in the past. When you operate at that of high level you can’t do everything by yourself. Not possible only so many hours in a day.

If you don’t have proof your just lying. Period.


Its known Taylor Swift writes or co-writes her own songs. Obviously nothing any of us care about but she’s BEEN solidified for writing. Drake on the other hand, is a fraud and we’ve got the reference tracks to prove it. Reference tracks for SEVERAL songs. These aren’t “allegations” we’re just throwing around, the reference tracks are out there right now on YouTube you can pull up for proof.

This “everybody does it” nonsense is bullshyt. Some MC’s take pride in their pens like Scarface, who turned down Jay-Z’s offer to write a hit for him, some care only about how the music itself comes out and don’t mind having shyt written for them, like Kanye West, some may have a line or two thrown their way but mostly write their own shyt like some members of the Wu-Tang, it is what it is. But if you’ve got a nikka writing entire verses for you then you can’t EVER be the greatest or be in contention for the greatest. Nas, Jay, Lupe, Kendrick, Biggie, Rakim, KRS, ANYONE whose ever been seriously considered for the position of the GOAT is writing their own lyrics and has proof of such. Kendrick was basically TDE’s secret Ghostwriter whilst being one of the biggest stars on the planet. The nikka wrote Jay Rock’s Money Trees verse (people slid that under the rug) in FULL.

So miss me with that “If you operate at a high level you can’t write” bullshyt.
 

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Removed Jermaine's songs from my playlists :scusthov:

Like the great Rakim, when I make my notes
You nikkas might be L or you might be Kane
Or you might be Slick Rick with 19 chains
Or you might be Drizzy Drake or Kendrick Lamar
But check your birth date nikka, you ain't the god
Nah you ain't the god
nikka, Cole the god (Cole the god, Cole the god)
January 28th

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Bro I literally produce, mix and master music. You know nothing off what really goes on behind closed doors
Name a non-goofy new nikka MC that has writers. In the MC lane. Everyone says this but never drops names and/or has any real proof.
 

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This is why I stopped following hip hop in over a decade. This new generation is beyond soft. Participation trophy ass nikkas. :scust:
 

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If you don’t have proof your just lying. Period.


Its known Taylor Swift writes or co-writes her own songs. Obviously nothing any of us care about but she’s BEEN solidified for writing. Drake on the other hand, is a fraud and we’ve got the reference tracks to prove it. Reference tracks for SEVERAL songs. These aren’t “allegations” we’re just throwing around, the reference tracks are out there right now on YouTube you can pull up for proof.

This “everybody does it” nonsense is bullshyt. Some MC’s take pride in their pens like Scarface, who turned down Jay-Z’s offer to write a hit for him, some care only about how the music itself comes out and don’t mind having shyt written for them, like Kanye West, some may have a line or two thrown their way but mostly write their own shyt like some members of the Wu-Tang, it is what it is. But if you’ve got a nikka writing entire verses for you then you can’t EVER be the greatest or be in contention for the greatest. Nas, Jay, Lupe, Kendrick, Biggie, Rakim, KRS, ANYONE whose ever been seriously considered for the position of the GOAT is writing their own lyrics and has proof of such. Kendrick was basically TDE’s secret Ghostwriter whilst being one of the biggest stars on the planet. The nikka wrote Jay Rock’s Money Trees verse (people slid that under the rug) in FULL.

So miss me with that “If you operate at a high level you can’t write” bullshyt.
kendrick still write for Jay rock, recent reference tracks leaked for Jay rock last album damn, as well as tracks for Keem and Game :wow:
 

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The reason why ghostwriting isn't as frowned upon as ya'll want it to be is because it was something that gradually became acceptable. Once the goal posts were moved, the standard crumbled. It was cool for female rappers, producers, and Hollywood A Listers like Will Smith to have writers. Then there's the "I'm good if my favorite rapper used writers as long as it wasn't a song that people revere them for" crowd. Then there's the "as long as he isn't claiming to be GOAT" crowd and Kanye slips through the cracks telling you he's Top 5 when he had writers. So there goes the culture right there. Oh, and there's Puff saying "don't worry if I write rhymes, I write checks". All of this before Drake ever dropped a debut and people now want to act like its cardinal sin when passes were given to artists with hidden pens a long time ago.
 

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Removed Jermaine's songs from my playlists :scusthov:

Like the great Rakim, when I make my notes
You nikkas might be L or you might be Kane
Or you might be Slick Rick with 19 chains
Or you might be Drizzy Drake or Kendrick Lamar
But check your birth date nikka, you ain't the god
Nah you ain't the god
nikka, Cole the god (Cole the god, Cole the god)
January 28th

:scust:


You sound like a scorned ex

Soon as he drop you'll be back in bed again though :bryan:
 

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I dont hear none of u dweebs talk about Ghostface being disqualified for having ghostwriters
Superb writing for Ghost hurt !! But he too has been disqualified for that cardinal sin. Real MCs write their own. That is/was the beauty of rap compared to other genre's...... if he rapped it he wrote it.

Oh have times changed.......
 

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ghostwriting.

Cole apologizing is pretty :russ: but Hov did it too, cause his mama told him, and the same people (like Mal from R&M) dikkride hov and ignore the fact he apologized...but say Cole can't be talking about the big 3/being the best anymore.

Drake can be the best with ghostwriters :scusthov:

but cole can't be cause he apologized? :heh:
 

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ghostwriting.

Cole apologizing is pretty :russ: but Hov did it too, cause his mama told him, and the same people (like Mal from R&M) dikkride hov and ignore the fact he apologized...but say Cole can't be talking about the big 3/being the best anymore.

Drake can be the best with ghostwriters :scusthov:

but cole can't be cause he apologized? :heh:

Cole said nothing that warranted an apology though. Compare the disses that Nas and Jay were trading to the Cole and Kendrick exchange.
 
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