What was Copolla thinking

[usopp]

Francis Ford Coppola only had 6 months to get a complex story together and film it.
The first actress they cast for the role of Michael's daughter was killed by her boyfriend before filming, so they picked Winona Rider for the role. Rider dropped out at the last second, so FFC cast his daughter in the role.
Also, Robert Duvall wanted to be payed as much as Al Pachino to revise his role as consigliere. The studio execs didn't want to pay him extra, so he was written out and replaced.
All that unexpected shyt ruined the film.

 

[ciubaca]

i wonder if anyone here read the books... how are they (story wise) compared to the movies?

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

i wonder if anyone here read the books... how are they (story wise) compared to the movies?

The book is excellent. Must read.

 

[ciubaca]

The book is excellent. Must read.

but does the shyt go down in the books just like in the movies?

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I agree it wasn't the script that made Pacino fukk up his performance as Michael it was his own doing. Dude played Michael like an extrovert throughout the movie when Michael was alwys much more introverted. And he didnt speak with the same educated language as Michael. I hate part 3 cuz GF 1 and 2 are my favorite movies. Also how do you stab some one with the leg of a pair of glasses?

The kills scenes were pretty bad. The helicopter massacre was just out of place. More of a die hard scene. Best scene is when Andy Garcia murks the two dudes in his apt.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

but does the shyt go down in the books just like in the movies?

For the most part. A lot is left out. The first scene in godfather 1 where the mortician is asking Vito to kill the men who assaulted his daughter. They don't show how Vito orders that retaliation, the brutal beat down of those guys takes place in the book.

 

[JackM]

The only problem I had was the end.

He just falls over n dies.

Dassit.

I can't imagine the response was in the theaters when ppl saw this on screen.

 

[JackM]

For the most part. A lot is left out. The first scene in godfather 1 where the mortician is asking Vito to kill the men who assaulted his daughter. They don't show how Vito orders that retaliation, the brutal beat down of those guys takes place in the book.

Plus the book focused more on Johnny Fontaine and Sonny's mistress.

 

[Piff Perkins]

IMO the bigger problem with Godfather III was Robert Duvall not returning. There were many Godfather III ideas and halfwritten scripts that were thrown out over the years/decade, but perhaps the most interesting was one about Michael and Tom falling out.

This was not the original plan for the Hagen character. Originally, Hagen was to be the chief antagonist to Michael in The Godfather Part III, as Hagen, the adopted German-Irish son, vied for control of the Corleone Empire over the dwindling family and aging Michael.

Sounds far more interesting. Also Connie found out Michael killed Fredo, causing her to side with Tom against Michael. The war would also involve Michael's son, who was a US senator; iirc the idea was that Michael's son, who was clean-ish, would be killed and thus result in complete mayhem.

Copolla allegedly wanted Travolta to play Vincent.

 

[the cac mamba]

i wonder if anyone here read the books... how are they (story wise) compared to the movies?

the book is pretty much part 1, plus the deniro part from part 2

and for the record the book is >>>>>>>>>>>>> the movie. everytime i watch the movies im like "damn they changed that line " n shyt. absolute classic

 

[the cac mamba]

For the most part. A lot is left out. The first scene in godfather 1 where the mortician is asking Vito to kill the men who assaulted his daughter. They don't show how Vito orders that retaliation, the brutal beat down of those guys takes place in the book.

plus it goes into more detail w johnny fontaine and hollywood, shyt was just so much better

 

[ciubaca]

the book is pretty much part 1, plus the deniro part from part 2

and for the record the book is >>>>>>>>>>>>> the movie. everytime i watch the movies im like "damn they changed that line " n shyt. absolute classic

So the helicopter scene and his daughters assassination are not in the book?
i might have to read it..... i never read it because i thought it was like the movie. I like to watch the movie after i read the book (although i always end up hating the movie adaptation ) but i never read a book if i saw the movie first.

 

[the cac mamba]

So the helicopter scene and his daughters assassination are not in the book?
i might have to read it..... i never read it because i thought it was like the movie. I like to watch the movie after i read the book (although i always end up hating the movie adaptation ) but i never read a book if i saw the movie first.

grab it off amazon used for like 5 bucks, you wont regret it. absolute piff

 

[pete clemenza]

My beefs were of course Coppola's daughter.. She was really bad with that valley girl accent. George Hamilton is literally the color orange in GF3. We didn't need to see Kate still holding a grudge against Michael after all these years.. and I wished their son would've followed in his father's footsteps instead of being a f*cking opera singer Him being the next in line along with the b*stard Vincent(andy garcia) would've been the new Michael and Sonny combo They cheated us and really dropped the ball on that one imo.. Could've even gave life for a GF4.

But other than that GF3 is not as bad as people make it out to be. It still was piff. Micheal beefing with the Vatican was kinda ill

 

[pete clemenza]

He can be when he wants to be. His hit to miss ratio is definitely pointing the wrong way these days but he's still great when he wants to be

He merked "Heat". Pacino still had it in him. But he was good in GF3 imo. After killing his brother and not being around his son he changed. He was old and getting weak. That's why he liked Vincent's wild energy and fire. It reminded him of Sonny and of days past.