richaveli83
Veteran
Ironically the first time I heard of the term incel was on the coli. Anyways I don't think the lack of sex is the reason they become violent, that's just an excuse. If they were getting lots of p*ssy they would still be violent.
What Make Incels Dangerous?
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Men in this era have no self-esteem.
James Bond
Or something to that effect
Most dudes I know who have a “mouthpiece” are witty and sarcastic
And also tease the woman
Getting ass lowers your testosterone when that pent up energy is "released"
The dangerous ones have inflated egos to go along with it
Some just cop out and buy dolls other use that energy for innovation
Exlurkernegro
Judge me by my heart not my hairline
I'm more scared of a police officer or somebody thinking I'm food than an incel. The incel hype is way overblown. Most of them are too scared of other people to harm them or would rather kill themselves instead. The violent ones were racist and homicidal to begin with.
Mandarin Duck
Majestic and Highfalutin
"Not getting ass" is a simple way to put it, but the reality is it's the feeling of being rejected by society.
When you think about cults, violent extremist, etc they usually are rejected by or want to reject normal society.
I think incels have been rejected by society at large and the rejection by women are a constant reminder of one of the ways society has deemed you unfit.
They may not have daily reminders of being unhealthy, or how much money they aren't making, but they are guaranteed to see a woman they find attractive or in a relationship every day
When you think about cults, violent extremist, etc they usually are rejected by or want to reject normal society.
I think incels have been rejected by society at large and the rejection by women are a constant reminder of one of the ways society has deemed you unfit.
They may not have daily reminders of being unhealthy, or how much money they aren't making, but they are guaranteed to see a woman they find attractive or in a relationship every day
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This.
Dog Based Gremlin
Veteran
get some p*ssy, lil nikkas:umadbron2:
You're missing the point. The whole point of it is their lack of p*ssy is the source of their anger. Violent men who do get p*ssy may have some other source of anger but you're asking specifically about incels.
Btw part of the reason they don't get p*ssy is because they feel entitled to women way above their weight class. If you're a below average looking dude, don't have money or unwilling to spend money, and have no personality well you're not bagging dimes. And shyt ain't nothing wrong with that.
Incels aren't specifically targeting women they're the mass shooters. Ya'll should read the manifesto Elliot Rodgers wrote. He felt entitled that because he was white he should be getting women and he wasn't. That's why they're dangerous. That feeling of inadequacy
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How rampage killer became misogynist 'hero'
Elliot Rodger: How misogynist killer became 'incel hero'
Image copyrightSHUTTERSTOCK
Image captionA sorority house was one of the 22-year-old's targets
Minutes before Alek Minassian allegedly launched Monday's deadly attack in Toronto, Canada, he posted to Facebook: "The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!"
Police have not yet confirmed any motive for the attack in which he is accused of murdering 10 people but his post on Facebook has drawn new attention to a mass murderer whose crimes inspired a dubious following.
Image copyrightFACEBOOK
Image captionFacebook have confirmed the screenshot is genuine
Elliot Rodger killed six people in a stabbing and shooting spree in Isla Vista, California, in May 2014.
Before he turned the gun on himself, the 22-year-old posted a "retribution" video to YouTube and emailed a lengthy autobiographical document to almost two dozen people he knew.
An online community known as the "involuntarily celibate", or incels, who blame women for their sexual failings, fastened upon the document.
What did Rodger believe?
Son of a Hollywood filmmaker, he grew up in a life of privilege and relative affluence. The 141-page document he distributed in his final hours explores that upbringing, his mental health and his deep-rooted loathing of women, fuelled by an intense frustration over his virginity.
Image copyrightSHUTTERSTOCK
Image captionIn the document Rodger proclaimed: "I am the closest thing there is to a living God"
On the video he posted to YouTube, Rodger sat in a BMW car his family had given him and complained about being a virgin at 22, saying he had "never even kissed a girl".
In the document, he described himself as the "ideal magnificent gentleman" and could not comprehend why women would not want to have sex with him.
He planned his murderous rampage as a "Day of Retribution" and said he had "no choice but to exact revenge on the society" that had "denied" him sex and love.
Rodger specified that he planned to target the Alpha Phi sorority whose members he had deemed the "hottest" at his college, "the kind of girls I've always desired but was never able to have".
He shot and killed Katherine Cooper, 22, and Veronika Weiss, 19, members of another sorority, outside the Alpha Phi house.
He also stabbed to death three young men: Cheng Yuan Hong, 20, Weihan Wang, 20, and George Chen, 19.
He injured 14 when he travelled around firing at random in his car and fatally shot Christopher Michaels-Martinez, 20.
In the final section of the manifesto, Rodger declared: "I am the true victim in all of this. I am the good guy."
How is Rodger idolised by his fans?
He has been virtually canonised by some fringe communities online. A mock film trailer for "The Supreme Gentleman" in his honour, cut from his clips, was still available on Wednesday on YouTube almost four years after its original upload.
Several versions of these videos, which the BBC raised with YouTube, have now been deleted.
Image copyrightYOUTUBE
Image captionThe videos had been viewed thousands of times (left) but have now been flagged for removal
In a statement the website said that videos threatening violence contravened their guidelines.
"We encourage anyone who sees material that they think crosses the line to flag it for us," YouTube said.
But lots of fan videos about the rampage killer, and his old YouTube channel, still remain online.
T-shirts of selfies with him posing in sunglasses could also be purchased online through international self-print clothing retailer Redbubble on Wednesday.
After the BBC raised the items to the market website, they removed the content as per their guidelines.
Image copyrightREDBUBBLE
Image captionThe platform is intended for artists to print their work but Rodger merchandise is available for sale
In December the social news website Reddit banned an incel discussion group (subreddit) as part of its efforts to cut down on violent content and illicit item sales.
However, independent platforms and aliases have sprung up in its place, leading to a cat-and-mouse game with moderators.
Of the Toronto suspect, one post says: "I hope this guy wrote a manifesto because he could be our next new saint."
Another proclaims: "I will have one celebratory beer for every victim that turns out to be a young woman between 18-35."
What is the 'manosphere'?
The incel community is just one of the misogynistic groups that exist within the so-called "manosphere" - a web of online blogs and forums which reject mainstream conceptions of gender inequality.
Others include Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), a group which focuses on male self-ownership and believes men have been disadvantaged by modern society's development.
Arguably the best known group is the "The Red Pill" - a Reddit subforum with more than 200,000 members which says its focus is a "discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men".
The forum's name is a reference to the 1999 film The Matrix and refers to a pill the main character must swallow in order to see "dark truths" about the world around him.
In 2017 New Statesman journalist Amelia Tait spoke to several former members about their online radicalisation, unveiling bullying and indoctrination techniques within the community.
She summarises the forum's ideology as a profound belief that "feminism is toxic, sexism is fake, men have it harder than women and everything the media teaches about relationships is a lie".
Elliot Rodger: How misogynist killer became 'incel hero'
- 26 April 2018
Image captionA sorority house was one of the 22-year-old's targets
Minutes before Alek Minassian allegedly launched Monday's deadly attack in Toronto, Canada, he posted to Facebook: "The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!"
Police have not yet confirmed any motive for the attack in which he is accused of murdering 10 people but his post on Facebook has drawn new attention to a mass murderer whose crimes inspired a dubious following.
Image captionFacebook have confirmed the screenshot is genuine
Elliot Rodger killed six people in a stabbing and shooting spree in Isla Vista, California, in May 2014.
Before he turned the gun on himself, the 22-year-old posted a "retribution" video to YouTube and emailed a lengthy autobiographical document to almost two dozen people he knew.
An online community known as the "involuntarily celibate", or incels, who blame women for their sexual failings, fastened upon the document.
What did Rodger believe?
Son of a Hollywood filmmaker, he grew up in a life of privilege and relative affluence. The 141-page document he distributed in his final hours explores that upbringing, his mental health and his deep-rooted loathing of women, fuelled by an intense frustration over his virginity.
Image captionIn the document Rodger proclaimed: "I am the closest thing there is to a living God"
On the video he posted to YouTube, Rodger sat in a BMW car his family had given him and complained about being a virgin at 22, saying he had "never even kissed a girl".
In the document, he described himself as the "ideal magnificent gentleman" and could not comprehend why women would not want to have sex with him.
He planned his murderous rampage as a "Day of Retribution" and said he had "no choice but to exact revenge on the society" that had "denied" him sex and love.
Rodger specified that he planned to target the Alpha Phi sorority whose members he had deemed the "hottest" at his college, "the kind of girls I've always desired but was never able to have".
He shot and killed Katherine Cooper, 22, and Veronika Weiss, 19, members of another sorority, outside the Alpha Phi house.
He also stabbed to death three young men: Cheng Yuan Hong, 20, Weihan Wang, 20, and George Chen, 19.
He injured 14 when he travelled around firing at random in his car and fatally shot Christopher Michaels-Martinez, 20.
In the final section of the manifesto, Rodger declared: "I am the true victim in all of this. I am the good guy."
How is Rodger idolised by his fans?
He has been virtually canonised by some fringe communities online. A mock film trailer for "The Supreme Gentleman" in his honour, cut from his clips, was still available on Wednesday on YouTube almost four years after its original upload.
Several versions of these videos, which the BBC raised with YouTube, have now been deleted.
Image captionThe videos had been viewed thousands of times (left) but have now been flagged for removal
In a statement the website said that videos threatening violence contravened their guidelines.
"We encourage anyone who sees material that they think crosses the line to flag it for us," YouTube said.
But lots of fan videos about the rampage killer, and his old YouTube channel, still remain online.
T-shirts of selfies with him posing in sunglasses could also be purchased online through international self-print clothing retailer Redbubble on Wednesday.
After the BBC raised the items to the market website, they removed the content as per their guidelines.
Image captionThe platform is intended for artists to print their work but Rodger merchandise is available for sale
In December the social news website Reddit banned an incel discussion group (subreddit) as part of its efforts to cut down on violent content and illicit item sales.
However, independent platforms and aliases have sprung up in its place, leading to a cat-and-mouse game with moderators.
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- Toronto van attack: Who is the suspect?
- Reddit: Guns, beer and tobacco transactions now banned
Of the Toronto suspect, one post says: "I hope this guy wrote a manifesto because he could be our next new saint."
Another proclaims: "I will have one celebratory beer for every victim that turns out to be a young woman between 18-35."
What is the 'manosphere'?
The incel community is just one of the misogynistic groups that exist within the so-called "manosphere" - a web of online blogs and forums which reject mainstream conceptions of gender inequality.
Others include Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), a group which focuses on male self-ownership and believes men have been disadvantaged by modern society's development.
Arguably the best known group is the "The Red Pill" - a Reddit subforum with more than 200,000 members which says its focus is a "discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men".
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The forum's name is a reference to the 1999 film The Matrix and refers to a pill the main character must swallow in order to see "dark truths" about the world around him.
In 2017 New Statesman journalist Amelia Tait spoke to several former members about their online radicalisation, unveiling bullying and indoctrination techniques within the community.
She summarises the forum's ideology as a profound belief that "feminism is toxic, sexism is fake, men have it harder than women and everything the media teaches about relationships is a lie".
WaveCapsByOscorp™
2021 Grammy Award Winner
I find it even more interesting how people want to even have conversations about these types of people. As if they deserve analysis because they kill people.
There’s not much to it; they’re entitled babies...
There’s not much to it; they’re entitled babies...
And what percentage of “mass shooters” are incels? What percentage of violent crime is committed by “incels”? Burglaries robberies murders? MAYBE 1 percent?
People are harmed by those they know, in close proximity too, and the vast majority of these people aren’t virgins.
It all roots to white supremacy the white male is the most pampered male in American society his ego is literally the epicenter of this country from media to politics to fashion so when u the average cac who is a loser straight up can't get woman he doesn't want to believe it because society is made to coddle his ego in my opinion a lot of these Incels are brainwashed from the junp because society has convinced them since there white and male everything should be handed to them also has a lot to do with America's Norman Rockwell era a lot of cacs like that era cuz woman were very easy to control
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