What Made Marlo Stanfield's Crew So Dangerous (The Wire)

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Avon was actually a good n1gga that was a gangster..The writers went out of their way to show that numerous times.. Him and Omar were cut from the same cloth.. That's why Avon sent his granny a new church crown after the botched hit violated the Sunday truce.. That's why he helped Cutty with the boxing gym and told Slim Charles he was "still a man today" when he wanted to help the community instead of gooning..

Stringer was just in it for self.. If you notice they never showed him having any family or real friends on the show. . He was only loyal to the bottom line... He didn't care about building up the hood although he pretended to.. Dude was like a Paul Castellano type.. He was all about power and appearance..

Marlo was a serial killer but was EXTREMELY perceptive and savvy.. He was always thinking 10 steps ahead which separated him from Joe, Avon and String.. He took the Stringer murder on his jacket without even knowing that Avon had OK'd it.. He just saw the Barksdales as weak and new he would never have to answer for it..

I would be curious to see a prequel with a young Marlo.. I can almost garuntee he had some serious physical or even sexual abuse in his childhood.. He was a sadist.. Avon was just a family man that was raised by n1ggas in the game with strong morals...

no, he wasn't. just because dude's motives for killing people was different than marlo doesn't mean that he's any better. in fact, he's just as fukked up. he tries to paint himself for something that he's really not. avon and stringer were both men without morals and consciences like marlo was. at least marlo didn't hide the fact that he was who he was. he was a fukked up dude. avon and stringer trying to make themselves "appear" good was for the sake of not getting caught by the cops or to help them not get convicted during trial. they were just as fukked up as he was, they just went about doing their dirt more wisely. they would hide it. marlo wanted the whole world to know he was fukked up.

according to what you're saying, marlo is better than avon because he didn't kill any kids. if i recall, avon was indirectly response for kids getting killed. three times, actually.
 
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no, he wasn't. just because dude's motives for killing people was different than marlo doesn't mean that he's any better. according to what you're saying, marlo is better than avon because he didn't kill any kids. if i recall, avon was indirectly response for kids getting killed. three times, actually.
I judge a mans morals off of motives and not necessarily the result of the action..
 

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I judge a mans morals off of motives and not necessarily the result of the action..

to me, i don't see much of a difference. they basically took people out because it suited their needs. avon to continue his drug enterprise. marlo for both his drug enterprise and need for people to respect him through fear of having their lives taken. basically, you weren't safe around them even if you weren't involved in that shyt. they basically were some fukked up dudes that exploited their communities for their personal interest. that alone speaks on the character of both individuals.
 

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I still never caught season 2 yet I think im gonna check it out this week since I just got done with breaking bad.
 

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First off I love wire discussions goat show period

"Hey bay, you come at the king, you bet not miss"

"Like, businessmen......well I guess I'm a gangsta I suppose, i want my corners..."

"nikka, are you taking fukking notes, on a criminal fukking conspriacy?!"

So many damn quotables, that shyt is like our generations godfather series oh BTW the wire >>>>godfather trilogy.

As for the thread i think 1 word is why the Barksdale crew fell apart and Marlo crew survived for the most part. The word is , trust

From season 1 the writers of the wire continued to show how stringer and avon had issues trusting eachother opinions and strategy which ultimately had avon losing in the streets and stringer losing in the business. Both of them would have played they part and trusted eachother on what they were great at, instead of both of them trying to get the other to be more like them, they would have gotten through the war with Marlo and ran baltimore. But because they both only saw they own way as the only way didn't trust eachother it ultimately led to they demise

Marlo crew didn't have conflict in direction and goals. Chris and Marlo trusted eachother and had 1 goal in mind. They never conflicted. I think that last scene with them both in jail was the 1st we ever seen Marlo even scream on Chris. And unlike avon and stringer whenever Chris had a strategy in war, Marlo acquiesced to Chris cause he respected his military mind and vice versa with Marlo as Chris respected how Marlo handled the drug side of things. So because they were so strong at the top they crew followed accordingly.
 
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If you can excuse a brotha for nerding out for a second, but I think Marlo's crew was successful for many of the same reasons the English were successful against the French towards the end of the Hundred Year War. The French were long standing proponents of chivalry and honor on the battlefield: capturing high ranking enemies instead of killing them, challenging people to duels, not using more dangerous weapons, etc. Whereas the English ran up in there with advanced tech and had no hesitation about killing everyone.

Likewise Marlo's young boys took those corners from OG gangsters who were used to doing things one way. Marlo gave no fukks, he didn't honor truces...all he cared about was that his name would ring on the block as a herald of strength.

Then you have the issue of Stringer Bell not really putting up a fight against them, for business reasons. Avon came home and put that to a cease, but by that time they were too far on defense to win.
 

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I'm wondering what made Marlo Stanfield's crew so dangerous
The best thing that I could come up with was they were younger and hungrier
They also seemed a bit more organized and they trained.

They would go out and practice shooting.
They would play paintball in the hood to practice hunting people down.

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NONE of that would have happened if avon was out... PERIOD

first time we see marlo.. avon already been knocked for years.. stringer couldn't even get good dope... and BEFORE THE COOP... this nikka was having marketing meetings with a bunch of dummies, going to college, and working real estate

avon kept telling him not to ignore the street... not to let those corners go.. THIS nikka WILLLINGLY GAVE THEM UP!! twice... to prop joe and to marlo.. just let them nikkas operate

avon comes home on some "what the fukk you doing nikka" and immediately goes to war.. but he still got dummies from stringer.. avon brought in slim, mouzone and cutty... he knew what to do.. stringer was fukking up with them same hitters.. telling slim to hit a senator.. getting omar and mouzone beefin

avon got hit once at the telly when chris caught them creeping... next thing you know he had eyes on marlo, marlo didn't have his people with him, and avon got like 10-15 nikkas with autos, grenades, vests and some more shyt.. on the way to marlo when....


stringers snitching ass ways got them all hemmed up..

marlo would have been done... but then in the end.. he still had to come get at avon to get to the connect... shyt avon could have told prop joe.. but he kept it westside and sold it to him

the king stayed the king


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no, he wasn't. just because dude's motives for killing people was different than marlo doesn't mean that he's any better. in fact, he's just as fukked up. he tries to paint himself for something that he's really not. avon and stringer were both men without morals and consciences like marlo was. at least marlo didn't hide the fact that he was who he was. he was a fukked up dude. avon and stringer trying to make themselves "appear" good was for the sake of not getting caught by the cops or to help them not get convicted during trial. they were just as fukked up as he was, they just went about doing their dirt more wisely. they would hide it. marlo wanted the whole world to know he was fukked up.

according to what you're saying, marlo is better than avon because he didn't kill any kids. if i recall, avon was indirectly response for kids getting killed. three times, actually.
Not to mention he spoke that family shyt, but let Stringer murk Deangelo, if the family shyt was his stance and something he strongly believed in, regardless of the circumstances he should have murked Stringer himself, but this nikka was crying over String death more than his nephew death.........All in all Avon cared about his rep and corners and if Deangelo was making him look weak he had to go...............

Avon was my nikka, but he was flawed like everyone else....................
 
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