Are you fukking serious right now? Are you really trying to derail a thread about STEM into some more gender wars bullshyt?
What is with the STEM obsession?
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What does any of this have to do with what you call the "black women have bullshyt degrees" bashfest? Your second point was good, but your first sentence had nothing to do with what you quoted.
LadySimone
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I'm insatiable. Just focus on my second propitiation.
Exactly. There was nothing in this thread about Black women
LadySimone
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Stay on topic, insatiable, and we'll be able to follow you.
To you second sentence, funneling children to STEM already happens to a great degree; there are tons of STEM programs set up in elementary schools and middle schools where the children are in a STEM major type program, so that's not the issue. The issue is that the system will not allow an oversaturation of people in STEM because it will upset the balance of the labor force. Analyze it in the context of the political economy.
Because the economy is moving more and more away from tactile jobs and manufacturing and moving more an more to cats sitting in offices coming up with ways to automate those jobs. It also has more and more people being tied to a large company and helps reduce the emphasis on entrepreneurship. STEM fields are some of the most effective at improving the workforce and perception of your education system in the global perspective i.e. Scandinavia, East Asia ect.
The humanities are more nuanced and don't have as a direct correlation to boosting the economy. STEM is cool and more black faces need to be in it, yes. But we need to be fostering the natural talents of each kid.
Great post and perspective. We have to analyze the situation in relation and context to the changing political economy, which is increasing global and more like a network internally in America.
So you just admitted that you can't get enough trolling and thread derailment. @cook @Brooklynzson can y'all get her out of here?
LadySimone
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Stop snitching.
It would be a good place for black people to focus in,
imo.
As in push the majority of our youth in that direction.
that too ealry IMO . People in 3rd grade don't even really know what they want to do.
kids need to explore their options first then make the leap of faith...
Bomberman
Like a C4.
If the world becomes overpopulated with STEM majors, guarantee creativity and the artistic people will feast.
I always talk about balance, I think STEM is worth pursuing but not at the expense of abandoning what one's good at and following that passion primarily. Let's face it Blacks are much more artistic/creative/musical/rhythmic than any other race, and yet are getting shamed out of that left and right. You can encourage thriving STEM without abandoning your natural gifts. If I had a choice I'd much rather be John Legend and Janelle Monae (if I were a female) than any STEM major on this planet, no offense and this is coming from someone who is doing programming right now.
This shyt is almost happening right now with there being less of an impact of Blacks in the media and arts. Cats are seriously being shamed out of it/blackballed. You concede being good at it and you outright are giving it away. The first thing you hear when you see people criticizing a group of Black people for dancing/loving life is "well we have science/some intellectual industry anyway!" When in reality you know they'd want to trade places.
The bolded here is what I'm trying to say. Gifts should be nurtured. if children have that gift help them cultivate it. So what if it isn't STEM.
I always talk about balance, I think STEM is worth pursuing but not at the expense of abandoning what one's good at and following that passion primarily. Let's face it Blacks are much more artistic/creative/musical/rhythmic than any other race, and yet are getting shamed out of that left and right. You can encourage thriving STEM without abandoning your natural gifts. If I had a choice I'd much rather be John Legend and Janelle Monae (if I were a female) than any STEM major on this planet, no offense and this is coming from someone who is doing programming right now.
This shyt is almost happening right now with there being less of an impact of Blacks in the media and arts. Cats are seriously being shamed out of it/blackballed. You concede being good at it and you outright are giving it away. The first thing you hear when you see people criticizing a group of Black people for dancing/loving life is "well we have science/some intellectual industry anyway!" When in reality you know they'd want to trade places.
The bolded here is what I'm trying to say. Gifts should be nurtured. if children have that gift help them cultivate it. So what if it isn't STEM.
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Arrogance.
King Novak of Melbourne, the First of His Name
This is true, but I'm not in the IT field strictly to get money. I'm in it to get money, show younger brothers and sisters where that money comes from, how to get it, and help build our community. Yes, there's people in it for themselves, and they are usually the loudest proponents. That's where the 6 certs, 6 figures, coli gang jokes come from. I read those jokes and laughed at them. My black friends/associates in this field that I speak to in person seem to have the same mindset as me. Get this corporate money, move up the chain, work on businesses and side projects, and transfer away from working for large companies to starting their own.
The loudest people in the room don't speak for everyone in that room. Some of us just let ignorant folk stay ignorant, as long as the only people they end up harming are themselves.
Bunchy Carter
I'll Take The Money Over The Honey
You have to watch out with this troll; he or she is always on that shyt. I just skip over her or his troll post.
Lets get back on topic about stem degrees in the black community.