What Happens If Biafra Gains Its Independence From Nigeria?

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Don't worry about Yorubas, after Afonja, Yorubas have defeated Fulanis twice - Jalumi war (1878) and Oshogbo war (1840) - in their quest to bring jihad to Yoruba enclave. Defeating them again wont be a problem.

Yorubas have never lost a war to any West African group: they defeated Akan/Ashanti Kingdom (Ghana) in the Battle of Atakpame (1764) and Dahomey was a Yoruba vassal state. So, they know how to deal with all West African groups.

The misconception is that Fulanis brought Islam to Yorubas. However, nothing is farther from the truth than that. Islam came to Yorubas via trading with Mali and Songhay. And the first mosque in what's known today as Nigeria, was built in Oyo empire and, that was before Fulanis brought Islam to Northern Nigeria.

Yorubas aren't worried about Fulanis, they're the easiest to defeat and they'll suffer another devastating defeat.
Do you have any credible sources for this? Because I never heard of Sudanese traders from from states as early as Mali arriving to Southwest Nigeria and bringing Islam. Empires like Mali did not bother converting the people of the coast because it would have effected the production of gold. Just curious.
 

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Do you have any credible sources for this? Because I never heard of Sudanese traders from from states as early as Mali arriving to Southwest Nigeria and bringing Islam. Empires like Mali did not bother converting the people of the coast because it would have effected the production of gold. Just curious.

Check this link: http://iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol5-issue6/I0565157.pdf (Page 3, 2nd paragraph)

The first mosque in Yoruba enclave was built in 1550, in Oyo-ile. And Islam got to the Northern part of Nigeria in the 19th century.

The traders were most likely Mande/Mandinka from Mali or whatever ethnic group was there. Oyo empire had horses/cavalry and it traded with most of the other ethnic groups in West Africa.

Also, to know that Yorubas have always had Muslims, look no further than the male slave revolt in Brazil, of 1835, which was a Yoruba Muslim slave revolt. People just love spewing the narrative that Fulanis brought jihad to the Yorubas and made them Muslims. No, Fulani jihad never got anywhere near Yoruba enclave and they were defeated every time they tired. They tried twice and were defeated.
 

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Apart from the Independence conference in London (1957) which I referenced, where Igbos voted with Fulanis, against Yorubas, for Nigeria. I'll reference the elections in Nigeria from independence.

1959: NPC (Fulani party) and NCNC (Igbo party with an Igbo leader) formed a coalition government against AG (a Yoruba party).

1964: NPC (Fulani party) and NCNC (Igbo party with an Igbo leader) formed a coalition government against AG (a Yoruba party).

1979: NPN (Fulani president and Igbo vice president) vs UPN (a Yoruba party).

1983: NPN (Fulani president and Igbo vice president) vs UPN (a Yoruba party).

Igbos and Fulanis have always been political allies.

Stop with BS.

Ain't no fukking allies, just positions to make a few ppl happy and not turn shyt into civil war.
 

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Apart from the Independence conference in London (1957) which I referenced, where Igbos voted with Fulanis, against Yorubas, for Nigeria. I'll reference the elections in Nigeria from independence.

1959: NPC (Fulani party) and NCNC (Igbo party with an Igbo leader) formed a coalition government against AG (a Yoruba party).

1964: NPC (Fulani party) and NCNC (Igbo party with an Igbo leader) formed a coalition government against AG (a Yoruba party).

1979: NPN (Fulani president and Igbo vice president) vs UPN (a Yoruba party).

1983: NPN (Fulani president and Igbo vice president) vs UPN (a Yoruba party).

Igbos and Fulanis have always been political allies.

Lol "allies"

Awolowo was an anti-Igbo bigot and spread lies against Azikiwe. Why would the NCNC ally with a known bigot and liar?

If we've always been allies with the Fulani then we'd be allies today. We are not. Your people largely are - which is why Hausas are burning down Ile-Ife without a peep from your jagaban of heroin

:mjlol:
 

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Both, you and Mansa musa. Make good points but Buhari is not seen as kuffar, lol. He's Seen As A muslim.

Hausa and fulanis don't do the kuffar thing. Infact the Muslim north is no more or less conservative than the south.

They just like to play religion when they feel like it. Prostitution among fulanis is very common esp the nomad, nomad Fulani women don't wear hijab or cover skin either. Hausa and fulani indulge in drinking, adultery homosexuality along with mixing traditional practices with Islam.

While Mansa musa is right about Islam in some aspects it's more complicated.

Breh, Boko Haram view Buhari and the entire Government as kuffaar.
 

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Don't forget the idiot who enacted the sharia law was caught last month with two women on camera having sex whilst poorer people in the same position have been whipped or executed

Nothing new. Corrupt elites use religion to dupe the masses. Sisi does it in Egypt. The Saudis do it. Etc.

In the mean time, nobody pays attention to the fact that they are stealing from the people.

Naija brehs, be careful not to dehumanize the average people. Focus on the political elites.
 

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Let me give you reality , and like I said i personally want the Igbos to go


look what happened last month when the Northern Youths released a statement saying the Igbos should leave their land since they wanted Biafra so badly, they didnt threaten the Igos they just said leave

there was an outcry.... I dont understand.... why arent they leaving to go back home ..... its a fukking joke

They have done nothing to actually prove they want biafra which is why its a big joke , no one is forcing igbos to live outside South South yet they refuse to come home

Another reason why your leaders are hypocrites , remember when they asked Delta to join them? and delta said we dont want any part of that? ... why are you asking non Igbos to be part of Biafra? guess it has something to do with that oil money huh?

every Igbo state since independence apart from during the military times have been run by Igbo governors and administrations, people you voted for , if you arent happy about the condition of the South South how come you have never taken any of those thieving swines to task? or are you just going to pretend that everything is the fault of the federal government .....

no disrespect but an igbo man is quick to shout he wants Biafra but they are the most likely out of any tribe to move away from home.....

Im not trying to be insulting Im just being real, i dont play that tribalism shyt plus as I said Nigeria is too big , If people want to leave they should leave

my issue is when people arent honest with themselves .... plus Kanu is a snakeoil salesman.... you need to pick a better leader

Good to finally see a different perspective on this issue (at least on the Coli). :jbhmm:
 

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This is nonsense. There will never be a situation where Fulanis and Igbos will ever collaborate. You sound delusional.


Yorubas have always wanted an independent country. However, after they were denied in 1957 by the collusion of Igbos and Fulanis, they've been careful about the way they go about it. To understand Yorubas: Yorubas are very meticulous and careful with every decision they make. They'll do risk analysis, in context of losses, before making a move.

Nigeria is a very funny and complex country. You'd be shocked that the same Igbos who're clamoring for Biafra are the ones who've always aligned with Fulanis politically against Yorubas. I think this current government is the first time in the history of Nigeria, where Yorubas and Fulanis got into a political alliance. Prior to this one, Yorubas have always been contented playing opposition with their own political party, while ruling their own part of the country.

Yorubas could easily declare an independent country since they own Lagos, which is the economic capital and the heart/soul of Nigeria, and cripple the country. However, they'll never do that because they know Igbos and Fulanis would form a coalition to annihilate Yorubas and destroy all the infrastructures that they've labored to build. So, they would rather sit it out and watch from the sidelines...and if Igbos manage to get the upper-hand or there's a stalemate, they won't mind supporting Igbos to tilt the balance in favor of freedom from Nigeria.

Yorubas actually hate the Fulanis more than Igbos and have been fighting wars against them way before Nigeria was colonized.



Lol You need to go to Abuja.

Igbo massss no, yoruba masses no- yoruba elite yes, igbo elite yes. I can name a few guys that definitely have hausa-fulani partners in business.

That cuts across all tribes.

Bonk is also incorrect there are yorubas elite who have partnerships and marry fulani. Likewise igbo especially in ABJ. That's how they develop properties.

If you're privy to the oil industry or construction in ABJ, you know how that shyt works.

Igbo company, yoruba middle man, northern general

Yoruba company, igbo middle men, northern general.

Niger delta (regardless of tribe) yoruba and igbo board members - northern general.

I used to see the names on documents when my igbo and yoruba friends who have parents that are politicians show me.

you guys are literally arguing about things you don't have control over and you guys continue to argue over elite who don't care about ethnic groups when it comes to money.

I'm still a broke ghetto nikka, I just know alot of rich mofos
 
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