What happened to R&B???

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This thread gets made every few weeks with every genre.

This is exactly what our parents said about the R&B you linked above. The new R&B music ISN'T FOR YOU, it's for the teens.

Breh-










It's embarrassing at this point. :snoop:
 

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This thread gets made every few weeks with every genre.

This is exactly what our parents said about the R&B you linked above. The new R&B music ISN'T FOR YOU, it's for the teens.
While I agree, objectively it should be unanimous that this era of R&B is the weakest just of the fact that the art of writing has died in that genre.

I was listening to One in A Million & Breathe Again randomly last night






…..and the biggest things that popped to me is the lack of metaphoric storytelling, as well as the lack of use of similes in the hooks & lastly the lack of ambiguity in who the person of interest is.

It’s so lazy and overt.

There was a beauty to songwriting in R&B up to the mid 00’s and now it’s…:patrice:
 

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While I agree, objectively it should be unanimous that this era of R&B is the weakest just of the fact that the art of writing has died in that genre.

I was listening to One in A Million & Breathe Again randomly last night






…..and the biggest things that popped to me is the lack of metaphoric storytelling, as well as the lack of use of similes in the hooks & lastly the lack of ambiguity in who the person of interest is.

It’s so lazy and overt.

There was a beauty to songwriting in R&B up to the mid 00’s and now it’s…:patrice:

yup the writing is bad

i like some of the acts like SZA but i gave up listening to her cuz shyt felt like thotting manuals

only so much harmonizing about her p*ssy and nikkaz ain't shyt I could take. even being healthy and open to listening outside my comfort zone and perspective that shyt is trash. like is there comparable male shyt are dude's out here writing soliloquies about their dikk? that shyt is more trying to listen to for me as a straight man than frank ocean music :dame:

yeah flagrant statement but shyt is real... I feel like music used to be written in a way where the perspective could be interchangeable and relatable and that made it smart and broad reaching. you are right it is extremely lazy.
 

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"it's what our parents used to say about our era" is a terrible counter argument.

Maybe they, too, were right? It only proves that we're on a downward trajectory in terms of artistic expression culminating in the current crop of "artists".
100%

I love the 90's r&b but can shyt really compare to hearing real string sections in soul music. shyt like that? the time and effort that was put into a song. the manpower. choirs, background singers, instrumentalists, brilliant song writers. from their time to our time all that shyt was diminished in importance by technology and economy.

the effort that went into making songs from Motown timeless cannot be duplicated in a digital audio workstation no matter how sophisticated. we still had power house producers like Devante, Teddy, Jimmy Jam, Babyface working in our era. Something that was good about the gatekeeping of the culture was the quality was held up. Once recording became cheap labels no longer had incentive to invest into making the music hit the highest quality. You see how with the loss of large industry budgets a lot of song writers have faded away. A lot of major producers etc. In their place is beat makers with just the artist. The last run of known songwriters I can recall is the Neo, Dream era. Labels have 0 incentive to go out and rent out a choir or a string section to fluff one song out to get a renowned song writer. the shyt will play next to songs that sound like nursery rhymes and possibly draw less revenue. it doesn't make any business sense.

in short it's a race downhill the more popular things get and the more commodified. looking back they said disco was an oversimplification of music but here we are.
 
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I love the 90's r&b but can shyt really compare to hearing real string sections in soul music. shyt like that? the time and effort that was put into a song. the manpower. choirs, background singers, instrumentalists, brilliant song writers. from their time to our time all that shyt was diminished in importance by technology and economy.

the effort that went into making songs from Motown timeless cannot be duplicated in a digital audio workstation no matter how sophisticated. we still had power house producers like Devante, Teddy, Jimmy Jam, Babyface working in our era. Something that was good about the gatekeeping of the culture was the quality was held up. Once recording became cheap labels no longer had incentive to invest into making the music hit the highest quality. You see how with the loss of large industry budgets a lot of song writers have faded away. A lot of major producers etc. In their place is beat makers with just the artist. The last run of known songwriters I can recall is the Neo, Dream era. Labels have 0 incentive to go out and rent out a choir or a string section to fluff one song out to get a renowned song writer. the shyt will play next to songs that sound like nursery rhymes and possibly draw less revenue. it doesn't make any business sense.

in short it's a race downhill the more popular things get and the more commodified. looking back they said disco was an oversimplification of music but here we are.

I owe you a rep breh. Couldn't agree more.
 

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U have to come in the game with likes from social media or have a little look and as long u can put out a catchy hook u good
 

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Rap music came through and completely terraformed the landscape of the black community and the culture itself.

Rap music culture completely transformed the relationship between black men and black women...and not for the good.

Rap music culture changed the mindset and spirit of black boys and girls....again, not for the good.

Rap music reduced black women to b1tches & h0es in the eyes of black men.

Rap music reduced black women to b1tches & h0es in black women's OWN minds.

Rap music reduced black men to tricks and $$$ signs to black women.

Rap music killed the pure & wholesome black male image.

Rap music took black women off the pedestal and turned them into something to no longer cherish, honor & respect

Rap music culture played the biggest role in killing R&B.
 
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