richaveli83
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I think Nolan was just tired and was like fukk it. I heard that The Dark Knight was supposed to be the last film. I don't know how true that is and I doubt it was true but I kind of felt Rises was a half hearted effort.
I'm not the best film critic and while I agree this movie was pretty subpar and boring, I'm curious as to why y'all felt that way? I heard the pacing was an issue, can a smart movie breh explain better to me? Also, what were the plot holes?
It’s not really a pacing thing for me. It’s more so the laziness in the writing and the lack of attention to detail. The first half is fine and then once Bruce is in the pit, everything comes to a crawl and the movie refuses to play by its own rules, while losing focus of the plot. Is it a movie about Batman’s wealth coming back to bite him? Is it about the powerful and corrupt of Gotham? Is it about lies? It’s trying to be about so much it can’t focus.
story wise, it cheapens Bruce’s “rise” by having him being punched in the back and then just showing up in Gotham. No money. No Alfred. No resources. But he’s just there. That’s something Nolan would’ve made sure to cover in the first two movies but here he completely sidesteps it. The talia twist is pointless because it does nothing for Bruce or the audience. It doesn’t fundamentally change anything about the story and it makes every character look worse as a result. Bane suffers for it, as does Bruce and talia. Bruce looks like an idiot, bane is now a lackey who gets killed off screen (even though he’s been the chief villain for almost 3 hrs) and Talia looks stupid for not killing the guy when she had him naked in his house and extremely vulnerable. Then there’s the “Robin” twist which is also lame and counter to the narrative
the movie juggles too many balls unsuccessfully
I'm glad y'all are waking up to this, whole thing was ass to me on the first watch.
Too many illogical holes, terrible pacing, poor character development. The only part I liked was the aging hero angle but Logan did it better.
Nolan is my favorite director in the game and this was the first movie of his that really disappointed me.
Pacing: Just couldn't stand the cops just sitting around waiting in their hole for an hour with nothing happening. I love slow-paced movies, I love long movies. But for most of the second half of that movie it felt like literally nothing was happening to most of the people there. Just killed my attention.I'm not the best film critic and while I agree this movie was pretty subpar and boring, I'm curious as to why y'all felt that way? I heard the pacing was an issue, can a smart movie breh explain better to me? Also, what were the plot holes?
Pacing: Just couldn't stand the cops just sitting around waiting in their hole for an hour with nothing happening. I love slow-paced movies, I love long movies. But for most of the second half of that movie it felt like literally nothing was happening to most of the people there. Just killed my attention.
Plot holes: The whole CIA opening scene was ridiculous, most of all with the CIA taking Bane on board the plane without ever even looking at his face. I know that comic book movies can get away with silly scenes like that and could live with it but it was a bad start.
Bruce Wayne getting kicked off the board of his company was just stupid. All those transactions were obviously faked and would have been cancelled quickly. Thought it was a really dumb way to push the plot forward and just pissed me off that we had to pretend such an obvious fraud wouldn't be exposed.
Worst of all, waiting 5 months for the bomb to blow up Gotham made no sense to me - they never adequately explained why they didn't just destroy Gotham right away. The entire movie hinged on that, but instead Bane basically just sat around for five months waiting for his plan to fall apart. He even could have destroyed the city without a nuke if he felt like it, he had the time.
Talia's motivation across the entire movie never really made sense. I don't even know why she was there. Better screenplay editing might have just cut her whole character out.