Dad started out as a youngin in the Dallas water department. Worked his way up to mid-level management. I have a lot more education, but he was there for years and had amassed a lot of benefits and raises. They even fired him, and he sued and successfully won back his pension and even disability after doctor determined his job had injured his back. So while I have more education, and I'm much further at the same age, will probably take another couple of years to surpass his retirement level. My other sisters and brothers already have, but I stayed in school longer than them all.