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You don’t want wins. You want to feel superior. Only you matter.
 

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Doesn’t matter. Duverger’s Law always kicks in a first past the post system.

I wish we had ranked choice, alternative voting or mixed member proportional etc.

Third party voting is what privileged cynics do in our system.

I personally blame someone like Joe Rogan for pushing this shyt. Dude has millions of listeners and thousands of hours of audio pushing that divisive third party shyt. The a$$hole couldn’t even vote for Hillary. He boasted of his Gary Johnson vote. I. Hate. That. shyt.

I'm not about a third party candidate winning though. Just one getting the 15% needed to stand on stage and introduce new policy ideas that could potentially make their way into one of big two's platforms over time. The idea is that a concept that is treated by the mainstream as fringe gets introduced in a debate and polls positively, therefore the democrats (or republicans) adopt that concept and fit it into their platform in future elections. So we go from Universal Healthcare will never ever happen in early 2016 to every presidential candidate co-signing Universal Healthcare bills by 2018.
 

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I'm not about a third party candidate winning though. Just one getting the 15% needed to stand on stage and introduce new policy ideas that could potentially make their way into one of big two's platforms over time. The idea is that a concept that is treated by the mainstream as fringe gets introduced in a debate and polls positively, therefore the democrats (or republicans) adopt that concept and fit it into their platform in future elections. So we go from Universal Healthcare will never ever happen in early 2016 to every presidential candidate co-signing Universal Healthcare bills by 2018.
If a third party candidate actually won it would push their issues even more to the forefront. You can't even trust the two parties to do stuff the overwhelmingly majority of citizens want like common sense gun control laws and universal healthcare.
 

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I'm not about a third party candidate winning though. Just one getting the 15% needed to stand on stage and introduce new policy ideas that could potentially make their way into one of big two's platforms over time. The idea is that a concept that is treated by the mainstream as fringe gets introduced in a debate and polls positively, therefore the democrats (or republicans) adopt that concept and fit it into their platform in future elections. So we go from Universal Healthcare will never ever happen in early 2016 to every presidential candidate co-signing Universal Healthcare bills by 2018.
Nope. Still wouldn't work on the national stage.

Do you know what Duverger's Law is?



I personally think they introduce the 15% rule just to placate third party people knowing it'll never happen.
 

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If a third party candidate actually won it would push their issues even more to the forefront. You can't even trust the two parties to do stuff the overwhelmingly majority of citizens want like common sense gun control laws and universal healthcare.
an overwhelming majority of citizens vote for the politicians we have.
 

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kyle kulinski is smarter than like jimmy dore, but he still hovers way too close to libertarian for my liking.

he had a debate with cenk on russia earlier this year. dude comes off a little too skeptical imo. he's not completely dumb though.


sam seder is the best on the left as far as media goes. he always has really good interviews, is pro labor and actually will take callers.
 
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