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[AnonymityX1000]

What you're suggesting won't come to pass unless we eliminate "first past the post" elections.

I don't think that's true. If Dems lose the Black vote and a biproduct of that is losing more elections and they see that Black folks voted Green at a 90% + clip. They aren't going to address our concerns at all? The election type has nothing to do with that.

 

[Black Panther]

Uh I was talking about my state not yours.

Doesn't really matter. I've never heard anyone making this argument before, either in my state or from someone in a deep blue state.

Black people vote Dem in like the 90 Percentile and don't get shyt for it.

You mean "Black people who vote" vote Dem in the 90th percentile. Important distinction.

Black people usually don't vote in large numbers.

And Dems are just on some "Well, at least we aren't actively trying to kill you like Republicans" and think that's good enough. It's not for me, how about you?

Especially at this moment in history, its unwise to cut off your nose to spite your face.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Doesn't really matter. I've never heard anyone making this argument before, either in my state or from someone in a deep blue state.



You mean "Black people who vote" vote Dem in the 90th percentile. Important distinction.

Black people usually don't vote in large numbers.



Especially at this moment in history, its unwise to cut off your nose to spite your face.

Welcome to reading some original thoughts then. lol
Obviously.
Learn to think past one election cycle. And like I said the candidate who won my state would have anyway.

 

[storyteller]

I'm in Jersey, I protest voted and then when the margins came in way closer than I expected...rethought the position as riskier than I had given it credit for. I've always seen the protest vote as trying to bump a third candidate's polling to the 15% qualification that gets them on the national stage to share different views. Not even necessarily that I agree with but a new perspective would be helpful anyway and possibly introduce policies that Americans begin to embrace. Sorta like Bernie's success in the primaries, where I think part of his success was just introducing ideas like Universal Healthcare to a broader audience. Even if nothing else from his progressive run had taken hold, having every Dem with aspirations sign on to Universal Healthcare is a win to me.

 

[Black Panther]

Learn to think past one election cycle.

I take each election on its own merits, actually.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Uh 'the better candidate' is going to win my state already. Why not protest? What if all Black people voted third party? The Dems would have to come to the table and negotiate with us on our issues. Status quo is devolving society, you haven't noticed?

Protest votes lost the election in states

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I don't think that's true. If Dems lose the Black vote and a biproduct of that is losing more elections and they see that Black folks voted Green at a 90% + clip. They aren't going to address our concerns at all? The election type has nothing to do with that.

Yeah. And IF black people became magic we could do [INSERT BULLSHÏT]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You mistake me for someone who cares what you think. lol
The videos are hours long sometimes. Sorry, I have a life to live.

I listen on 1.5x speed. Grow up.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What you're suggesting won't come to pass unless we eliminate "first past the post" elections.

One of the few things the Europeans got right. I guess creating their democratic governments after ours has some benefits.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Protest votes lost the election in states

Increase your reading comprehension. I have said numerous times my state is deeply blue.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Yeah. And IF black people became magic we could do [INSERT BULLSHÏT]

I hope that post was worth you time, because it wasn't worth mine. lol

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I'm in Jersey, I protest voted and then when the margins came in way closer than I expected...rethought the position as riskier than I had given it credit for. I've always seen the protest vote as trying to bump a third candidate's polling to the 15% qualification that gets them on the national stage to share different views. Not even necessarily that I agree with but a new perspective would be helpful anyway and possibly introduce policies that Americans begin to embrace. Sorta like Bernie's success in the primaries, where I think part of his success was just introducing ideas like Universal Healthcare to a broader audience. Even if nothing else from his progressive run had taken hold, having every Dem with aspirations sign on to Universal Healthcare is a win to me.

Doesn’t matter. Duverger’s Law always kicks in a first past the post system.

I wish we had ranked choice, alternative voting or mixed member proportional etc.

Third party voting is what privileged cynics do in our system.

I personally blame someone like Joe Rogan for pushing this shyt. Dude has millions of listeners and thousands of hours of audio pushing that divisive third party shyt. The a$$hole couldn’t even vote for Hillary. He boasted of his Gary Johnson vote. I. Hate. That. shyt.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Increase your reading comprehension. I have said numerous times my state is deeply blue.

Democrats always won Wisconsin. stop being selfish.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I don't think that's true. If Dems lose the Black vote and a biproduct of that is losing more elections and they see that Black folks voted Green at a 90% + clip. They aren't going to address our concerns at all? The election type has nothing to do with that.

This is also stupid because there aren’t any greens even in office. That’s fukking stupid. Plus there’s already few black leaders who are fighting for legitimacy in the Democratic Party. And here you come with this resource wasting fantasy.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I listen on 1.5x speed. Grow up.