Religion/Spirituality What Are the Benefits of Atheism?

Johnny Kilroy

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Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Exodus 32:27
Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side ... and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.
Numbers 15:35
And the Lord said unto Moses, The man [who was found picking up sticks on the sabbath] shall be surely put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones.
1 Samuel 15:2-3
Thus saith the Lord of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare him not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

I'm extremely offended that you think I'm a fukkin retard. :comeon:
 

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Ignoring? Dude, you can't be serious. I said "religion teaches morals, atheism doesn't" and you turned that into "morals and God are the same thing" and "communism does not believe in God." :wtf:

If you're not ignoring you're damn sure imagining.

Now, you say the military teaches morals. I'm not saying that I agree with that 100% or at least not the "morals" they teach but even so, what does that have to do with anything?

Again, religion teaches morals, something beneficial. Atheism does not teach morals, so that can't be counted as a benefit of atheism. My original question was what are the benefits of atheism? So again I'll ask, what are the benefits of atheism?

I am saying everyone has morals of some kind wither your religious or not so an Atheist would get there morals from some where. So your example of a benefit is moot because everyone has some kind of morals. And your question is still odd because the only benefits you get with religion is rewarded in the after life.
 

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I am saying everyone has morals of some kind wither your religious or not so an Atheist would get there morals from some where. So your example of a benefit is moot because everyone has some kind of morals. And your question is still odd because the only benefits you get with religion is rewarded in the after life.

That's fine. I never said you HAVE to be religious to have morals though. I'm not religious, myself, but I still consider myself a moral person. I simply said atheism doesn't teach morals. You can learn morals from a variety of sources but atheism is not one of them.

How does that make my point moot? You're confusing the hell out of me because you're responding to a straw man you created in your head. If you're gonna quote me, at least respond to what I'm saying.

How is the only benefit of religion in the afterlife when I gave you a perfect example, Malcolm X? Obviously his life changed for the better because of religion. But I guess your imaginary friend didn't type that so you didn't see it. :manny:
 

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Either that or a troll.

I'm hedging my bets. :smugfavre:

Maybe it's you who's retarded if you think the Bible is instructing people to kill. I'm used to dumbasses saying that about the Quran but you're taking retardation to a new level if you truly believe the nonsense you just typed.
 

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Maybe it's you who's retarded if you think the Bible is instructing people to kill. I'm used to dumbasses saying that about the Quran but you're taking retardation to a new level if you truly believe the nonsense you just typed.

Millions of people believe the nonsense I just typed. That's the problem. :usure:
 

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That's fine. I never said you HAVE to be religious to have morals though. I'm not religious, myself, but I still consider myself a moral person. I simply said atheism doesn't teach morals. You can learn morals from a variety of sources but atheism is not one of them.

How does that make my point moot? You're confusing the hell out of me because you're responding to a straw man you created in your head. If you're gonna quote me, at least respond to what I'm saying.

How is the only benefit of religion in the afterlife when I gave you a perfect example, Malcolm X. Obviously his life changed for the better because of religion
. But I guess your imaginary friend didn't type that so you didn't see it. :manny:

What I am saying is that your example of benefit can be found in anything religious or non religious if you are looking for it. Malcolom X and that stability he was craving could be in any military institution but he resonated with Islam. Atheism dose not have a moral code but then why would you use that as a benefit when all atheism is saying that there is no god nothing more nothing less.

Once again both Ideas have no benefits in this world and religion goes out of this way to say you are rewarded for following there way in the next. So whatever idea you follow you are not going to see the benefits
 

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Why does there have to be a benefit?

You either believe in god or you don't. Nothing to do with a benefit, it's just a statement about what you think is or isn't true about the world.
 

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Why does there have to be a benefit?

You either believe in god or you don't. Nothing to do with a benefit, it's just a statement about what you think is or isn't true about the world.

I can see a benefit in the opposite end of the spectrum. Are you telling me there's nothing good any atheist can say about atheism?
 

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What I am saying is that your example of benefit can be found in anything religious or non religious if you are looking for it. Malcolom X and that stability he was craving could be in any military institution but he resonated with Islam. Atheism dose not have a moral code but then why would you use that as a benefit when all atheism is saying that there is no god nothing more nothing less.

Once again both Ideas have no benefits in this world and religion goes out of this way to say you are rewarded for following there way in the next. So whatever idea you follow you are not going to see the benefits

I disagree and I showed you an example. Malcolm could have got his morals from lots of places, but he got them from religion, so in that example, that's all that's really relevant.

Now can you give an example of atheism changing anyone's life for the better like it's "rival" theism? If not, just say no and stop beating around the bush.
 

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Malcolm X was always a religious person though. I think his father was a preacher
 

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I can see a benefit in the opposite end of the spectrum. Are you telling me there's nothing good any atheist can say about atheism?

You're missing the point. Probably intentionally because of your bias towards theism, but whatever.

It's like asking what's the benefit of believing that 1+1=2 as opposed to believing 1+1=3. If you honestly don't believe that god exists then you don't.

If somebody told me I'd go to heaven or be a better person if I started believing 1+1=3, I still wouldn't be able to do it because I just don't think it's true.
 
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