I hate doing this, but aite
Naruto is trash because it's completely devoid of all tension outside of those two arcs. The villains are all built on asspulls that always revolve around the reader/watcher being left in the dark. Always. Even Kubo treats his fans better. There are more absolutely pointless characters on Naruto than anything ove ever seem. All the thought put into interesting side characters and their designs? Word? We're going to treat them like Pokemon. For the -entire- series. And then, when you think any of them are getting a resolution, they get shyt on one last time to remind you that they never did anything other than job.
Pre time skip is boring ass orochimaru and his boring ass plans in between boring ass politics between boring ass villages with a boring ass nonsense beef.
Filler ain't got anything to do with it. Its always dumb as fukk. At Bleach had legit
moments. One of the best villains was a fukking simp / puppet. Madara was just living plot device ffs
But I won't hate on anyone who likes it. Its just like DBZ in that a lot of people grew up on it.