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TobiOT
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Black_Panther_JS
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Out of the main shounen MCs he's easily 1 of the weakest
Gon is cool but he was never that strong until he fought Pitou by turning into "Adult Gon' fr
He could probably beat Edward Elric maybe but he's clearly not touching Luffy, Goku, Naruto, Ichigo, Saitama, Jotaro, Josuke, Giorno, 100% Mob, Titan Eren
Think its time to rewatch Bebop as a full fledge adult, last time I watched it was around 18 & there were probably stuff I didn't get I'd love nowReached the episode where Edward and Ein leave the ship. It's the roughest part of every rewatch.
There are few scenes where Edward isn't smiling or making a goofy face in Bebop. But from the moment she sees that hologram of her father, and learns that she does have someone out there looking for her, that carefree disposition is gone. She more or less adopts Faye's crisis of not knowing where she belongs in life. Except that she's so young and has more time to create that path for herself. And she does so with more agency than anyone in Bebop.
That spinning wheel appears multiple times in this episode. I took it to represent that she is a free spirit. But that wheel can only spin if sustained by wind. With the crew, she is almost always idle inside of the ship while the others get to explore the world and do bounties. Often shown to be bored (with Ein), not allowed to do much for herself, though she is capable (as seen in Mushroom Samba where she and Ein solo a bounty). Ed gives that wheel to Spike before she leaves. And either Spike or Jet plant it onto the helm of the ship as it spins at the end of the episode.
Spike and Jet see Edward, Faye down after they return from the orphanage. They know something is wrong. But instead of asking them, maybe offering some sort of encouragement, they ignore them.
Then when they leave the ship, they're pissed. Those two stuffing eggs down their throats with frowned faces, zero communication, underlines so much about them as characters and their individual struggles (particularly Jet, who has lost relationships b/c of a lack of communication). They obviously care, but are too prideful to outright show that they care.
They still set up a bowl for Ed, even though they know she's left. Faye too though they swear to dislike her. And Ein, who was considered a burden by Spike in episode 2. That was the only family they had left and lost it all in one day, though Faye does return later.
It is Ein who shows the most compassion on that ship for the wellbeing of Ed, and it's an awesome moment when he decides to go with her. Though not before looking back at the ship twice, nearly turning around. In general Ein the most conscious character in Bebop, shown to understand situations better than any other human.
After the 2nd Vicious encounter, Ed asks Faye what happened in the arc with she and Ed left behind. Faye says she'll tell her when she's older. Too young to know what goes on in the world outside of the ship. So it's appropriate that Ed gets to find out what the world is like for herself, maybe later to meet Faye and Jet again and act as their peer rather than an oft dismissed underling.
There's voice actor commentary on the version I'm using. They give their thoughts on the episode in a casual manner. The staff really loved Ed and what she represented to Bebop. They were very emotional about her departure. The show treats her and Ein with really no less respect than Spike, Jet or Faye, which is probably the reason that most Bebop viewers appreciate those characters and respond as strongly to their departure.
Kenny West
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This is true. Im sure Togashi had an ambitious development arc for Gon but he doesnt have the work ethic to bring that completely to fruition. His character arc is still in that "ant in tornado" phase as Luffy in the Maineford arc 10 years ago and the most fun feats/fights are from the rest of the cast. It doesn't help that Gon's powers are kinda ass and uninspired.
Plus series with technical smart fights tend to have weaker characters.
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Can't argue with it. Gon is midThe Negs that @42 Monks alone will drop on this.
TobiOT
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Goku is in a league of his own.
the way MAPPA is handling jujutsu kaisen is making me even more hyped for attack on titan 
they are being very faithful/respectful to the manga and the add ins they've been doing to put their mark on the show have been very well done so far. whoever the director is, is obviously a fan of the source material
they are being very faithful/respectful to the manga and the add ins they've been doing to put their mark on the show have been very well done so far. whoever the director is, is obviously a fan of the source material
that was my experience. didn’t care about it on toonami (nor Ghost in the shell). Watched again years later as an adult and appreciated the themes.
all signs point to attack on titan being a trainwreckthe way MAPPA is handling jujutsu kaisen is making me even more hyped for attack on titan
they are being very faithful/respectful to the manga and the add ins they've been doing to put their mark on the show have been very well done so far. whoever the director is, is obviously a fan of the source material
