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Oh ok.. in that case yes, by far the most valuable of most Entry level certs.
WGU lowered their requirements for their IT Bachelors programs
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I said, I don't know what the fukk YOU'RE talking about. Bunch of gibberish nonsense about what you might do. Do the thing or don't, but shut the fukk up about what you know. Obviously not enough or you wouldn't be asking dumbass questions.
Now fukk off and go study for some shyt I got 15 years ago and whatever bullshyt for-profit online degree you can get.
fukking malaka.
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Honestly.. idk.
Depends on the direction you want to go. Is this Entry, Mid, or Advanced? Also depends on the sector. Government loves the Sec+ because it’s the bare minimum required cert for anything security related and because it’s like a catchall but more advanced than A+ or Net+.
Most people are trying to get PMP in my sector. Everyone has Sec+ as far as I know. Some guys got CISSP’s but honestly, a lot of those dudes are in senior positions.
So it depends on the direction though. There’s AI, Cloud, Network Admin, Security, etc… then there are the sublayers
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I'm going to post this here as well because I don't want people to fall in the trap that a certification equals a job. I can only speak as someone who does cybersecurity in healthcare, the Security+ might get you interview but it wouldn't get you hired even for an entry level position(you'll find people who have more than that and can't get a job). I would say participating in CTFs, having a understanding of basic security concepts, critical thinking skills, and a desire/passion to learn. Having a Security+ tells me you can pass a test. I need to know that you can learn, understand, and apply the concepts that you were being tested on. Hope that makes sense.
As a man in the same pay bracket who is 6 years deep in IT and STILL on the support side, I feel youLove to see yall taking advantage
Never had a chance to go, I'm making just $80k in a high COL area (rent is $2k next year) with no degree so I know I'm doing better than others on paper.
Hope yall go well past me onto better things
I hate IT at this point
I literally hate every damn day that I have to image a computer for someone or some low-end shyt like that. That is precisely why I'm trying to get this degree so I can be free of running confidently into making finalist for sysadmin jobs but not getting them. 0 and fukking 5 in the last year and a half alone.
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What certs you got?As a man in the same pay bracket who is 6 years deep in IT and STILL on the support side, I feel you
I literally hate every damn day that I have to image a computer for someone or some low-end shyt like that. That is precisely why I'm trying to get this degree so I can be free of running confidently into making finalist for sysadmin jobs but not getting them. 0 and fukking 5 in the last year and a half alone.
A+, Itil4, AWS cloud Associate.
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Yeah its good you getting Help Desk experience. A+ not gonna get you more than Help Desk. Im not a fan of ITIL… I think thats more framework bs. Its useless on its own imo but if you want, you can look for positions that specifically want that. It’s not gonna matter for Sys Admin imo.
You could do something with that AWS though. I would look to advance it. I had planned on getting it actually. Here’s what I would do…
Look for jobs requesting an AWS admin. Look in the government sector. If you don’t have a criminal history, don’t have associates from unfriendly countries, no huge debts, you could try that. Get you a government-style resume. If you could get at least a Secret or Confidential clearance, you good.
But thats a stretch. I would get more cloud based certs. AWS is dope, but I don't think its as popular as Azure. I would try to advance that though AND/OR go the Azure route. It will be easier since most businesses are Microsoft based and you already have familiarity with the lingo somewhat more so than with AWS. The tests are cheap and shows that you know cloud Architecture on both of the top 2 (Google is in it as well).
Or, go get a Cloud+, but I've never seen anyone request that.
If you REALLY want to get tf out of Help Desk like right now… Linux. Linux anything.
But ultimately, with the degree and Certs you'll be aight. Just keep grinding, keep getting the resume built with experience, etc. 80k at help desk is pretty good actually
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But @At30wecashout I will be honest, 6 years at help desk is too long. Yeah it may be easy because you know everything at that place by now (you should), but if they not letting you advance to some kind of Tier 2 type shyt, then might be time to bounce unless you cool and comfortable. I know a lot of the older old school guys that might take positions beneath them just to chill and get a check
And just know, every new place has a learning curve, different structure, different goals, different focuses, different equipment and tools…
But as above so below. If you understand the basic theory of computers with the A+, pretty much everything is the same with anything. Using equipment, communication with devices, and protocols.
And just know, every new place has a learning curve, different structure, different goals, different focuses, different equipment and tools…
But as above so below. If you understand the basic theory of computers with the A+, pretty much everything is the same with anything. Using equipment, communication with devices, and protocols.
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Problem is I don't want to stay in the IT world anymore.
I may be better off in a non support role but getting my job to pay for a degree may send up some red flags for them.
I'm really not sure what my next steps are, but I gotta make a choice before I get put into the "ageism" bracket haha.
As a man in the same pay bracket who is 6 years deep in IT and STILL on the support side, I feel you
I literally hate every damn day that I have to image a computer for someone or some low-end shyt like that. That is precisely why I'm trying to get this degree so I can be free of running confidently into making finalist for sysadmin jobs but not getting them. 0 and fukking 5 in the last year and a half alone.
That $80k is as a System Administrator breh. I had to request the title change numerous times before I got it (and a raise that I had been fighting for as well).
Took almost three years in this company and I was already doing the work. I've been doing Sys Admin work for years. Never got the title because then they would have to pay me more.
I'm at a family owned (ugh) Real estate company so it's a small IT department. I have to do support.
Do yourself a favor and change your title to System Administrator on the resume and/or LinkedIn. If you are in and out of servers, you can call yourself one.
I sold myself short for a decade, you have certs and experience now. Don't sell yourself short, I'm confident you got the skills already. I've spoken to you enough times to feel that way.
I agree unless you enjoy it of course. If ya don't, should really be 3-5 years max. I did it for 10
Folks will rarely ever big up your skills because they want you to stay where you at.
It's cheaper for them
why the transition out of your current role and focus on govtech/GRC?
Interested in exploring the risk/GRC space but more importantly looking for job security and less salary variance. Staying private means more $$$ but I hate the unsurety working in the private tech space. I earn a fairly high salary and that always makes me nervous with all the outsourcing that’s going on in the States.