Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Nah academics have to meet publishing requirements..."publish or perish." He wasn't publishing shyt and wanted to use his rap album to satisfy that criteria.
West: Obama a Rockefeller Repub in blackface; Sharpton, MED, Harris Perry sold souls
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Nah academics have to meet publishing requirements..."publish or perish." He wasn't publishing shyt and wanted to use his rap album to satisfy that criteria.
Oh. I know that, but the way I read it I thought you meant course requirements.
thelonious21
I like my women tall
This type of stuff works because the majority of us are so easy to please...
The same mentality that labeled Clinton the first Black president because played the sax on Arsenio...While his welfare reform deal with Ginrich gutted the poor Blacks that helped get him elected...
I actually don't blame the president for ignoring the West's and Smiley's of the world...There is no political collateral damage to doing so as long as he keeps a wet jump shot and can dust off his shoulders at a rally....
N1ggas...
smh...
I never said I voted for him for any of those reasons i listed.....but if we're talking "denying ones blackness", then how else is "blackness" defined by the majority of us?
I'm pretty sure I mentioned in this thread there's more white in poverty than black ppl.
In theory, how exactly would he accomplish this goal of helping African Americans without completely coming off like what he's been accused as by white people. The minute he does anything specifically geared towards black people or makes a statement towards helping blacks, white America will be in an uproar and claim he's showing favoritism and trying phase out whites....which many of them are scared and think that's what he's already doing.
The closest he can come is using the word "urban", but even that's not enough for most of us.
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
Yeah, pretty much. The war of words they engaged in was cringe-worthy.
Nothing was more embarrassing than his co-written memoir about "living and loving out loud."
He sacrificed the legitimacy of AFAM studies and black scholarship at the altar of his vanity. And it all boils down to the fact that for nikkas like him and Iron Mic Dyson, being accomplished and provocative as an intellectual doesn't satisfy their deepest insecurities. These dudes want to be Mos Def. They want to be perceived as "cool," they want to talk slang with young nikkas and be on tv stuntin' on panels (Dyson's "nikka please" closing argument at the "hip hop on trial" summit being an infamous example), fukking their students, hitting on random women while at academic conferences, and writing about rap or launching sensationalist attacks at prominent figures to grab headlines instead of doing any kind of meaningful scholarship or community organizing. Because meaningful work is challenging. They don't have time for that - they get paid, they stay in the finest hotels, they hobnob with celebrities, whites and blacks alike fete them as modern day giants... they're self-styled academic CEOs. They founded Rocafella, and the Ivy institutions that housed them and provided them greater exposure are Def Jam. They ain't intellectuals, they just hustlers who happen to know how to think.
Reason #2 as to why I don't want to be compared in any way to these types of "public intellectuals" for the most part. Reason #1 is because I don't need to be compared to any type of Ph. D because I'm not near that level yet.
#2 is because the "Black Intelligencia" seem to be more willing to trade on decades old political battles and the value that "Black Ph. D" has linguistically and symbolically while reproducing banal insights rather than coming up with creative insights into the ever-mutable nature of constructed Black identity (whoops, put too much of myself in there). The bolded is dead on and especially galling.
When was the last time West produced a significant article published in a journal or anthology of repute?
I have to agree with most of this statement, one of Obama's big talking points back in '04 was how he was going to get rid of lobbyists yet there's more money in politics than ever. He said lobbyists won't have a place in his White House yet he's hired dozens and dozens to serve in his administration and he's having lobbyists visit him all the time.
Even being inundated with campaign coverage on several networks and through the multiple debates you would rarely, if ever, see discussion about civil liberty issues or blowing up brown people.
All you hear is the same cut and dry issues about gay marriage or climate change where you're always going to have people on opposing sides.
Remember the Foreign policy debate, it was the only one in which both candidates seemed to agree on most issues and neither had issue shifting questions back to domestic issues. Obama personally sits in meetings and authorizes these strikes, which are something like 2% accurate and implementing the double tap strategy(hit target again 20 minutes later, wipe out those who come to assist)
It's complete bullshyt that these men who became millionaires by basically defrauding Americans are not only avoiding jail time but the banks/corporation they work for are given $16trillion to recover from a crisis they helped create. Yet, Obama has no problem allocating federal resources to go after marijuana farmers and medical marijuana dispensaries against the will of the people in states that approved marijuana usage and lock up family farmers to life sentences. The raids on marijuana dispensaries are complete shams and blatant robberies.
Honestly, I'm hoping Obama was simply treading water first term in order to have the privilege of a second term and I believe he will be better. But to lack any criticisms of the mans presidency and not let him feel the pressure of accountability is idiotic.
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
Nonetheless, this is also true, if just stating the blatantly obvious.
Cornell West on point as usual.
I say Barack in office was the greatest move they ever pulled, because now they have the hip-hop generation to co-sign the system too.
I say Barack in office was the greatest move they ever pulled, because now they have the hip-hop generation to co-sign the system too.
Rapmastermind
Superstar
Obama not ending the war on drugs cause it makes the government to much dough. But he will make sure Ganja is decriminalized in more states before he leaves office then it was when he got in. The Marijuana War took a huge turn on election day. More states will introduce legislation. Obama about to change the game on the Drug Wars when it comes to Marijuana arrest cause they make up the most arrest for any drug in the U.S. They are already preparing to drop 1,000's of cases in Colorado and Washington once the law goes into effect. Now that Obama isn't running again, he will cool the Feds off of it. Obama also already changed the laws on Crack/Coke sentencing disparities. Also the 3 strike rule is going down in many states. All these laws affect Blacks when it comes to prison. Obama will be a Legend when this is all said and done for how progressively he moved the country in a new direction:
I like Cornell but he's wrong to say Barack has done nothing on the Drug War. He has to play the game and he wasn't going to be 100% Liberal in the 1st term. He had to play to the middle so he kept some Bush policies going but he slowly did other things to put us on a more progressive path. Now without the pressure of running again, he can finally complete why he was sent there. I expect jobs to improve in his 2nd term. He's already had a positive effect. Also Barack is not the President of Black America. He has to serve everyone but as the 1st Black President he does have a responsibility to make sure Black America doesn't fall behind everyone. Which is why he does deserve criticism but he's doing what he can. It's like Cornell is upset he didn't do everything in the 1st term. The Opposition Obama faced was insane. Again Obama has to play the game cause the Game is even bigger than him. There is Big money behind America. They killed Presidents before. But Obama is changing things if you look at the full record and not just the negativity.
Dream Act has not happened yet....
He signed the "Deferred Action" executive order summer 2012 which halted deportations for those who are younger than 30 years old and came here when chiildren and have been living here a certain amount of time....And gave them visas so they can have jobs in America on and renew within 2 years...( I have been able to work at a supermarket as a Cashier because of this...)
And remember there are African and Caribbean undocumented immigrants also, they just are not as vocal about it....
But yes your point still stands.....I agree.
He needs to make a landmark "Marshall Plan' type of economic investment program for Black businesses and the same way he used the Department of Homeland Security to create the executive order of "Deferred Action" he should use the Department of Labor to create a urban job program for various Black neighborhoods like Southside Chicago, Southside Jamaica Queens,etc
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They've been the GOAT at this shyt for a while. You can really learn lessons from this mental war...
He doesn't teach at HBCU, got a white wife, him, Tavis, & Dr Boyce can
Any Black person with a vague interest in Black intellectuals knew about West long before Obama, and actually, any non-Black person with a vague interest in race knew about him, too.
