West: Obama a Rockefeller Repub in blackface; Sharpton, MED, Harris Perry sold souls

[mastermind]

Obama being black and the president is more important than any money he could "give to the hood"

:thefucc:

the criticism isnt about not "giving money back to the hood," its about him largely being inactive to help African American poor community upliftment.

How about taking a serious look at the Prison Industrial Complex in this country which affects African American men disproportionately.

But fukk it, how about policies to help eradicate poverty for all Americans. Poverty in America isnt just a black face, there are more whites on it than black people. Candidates havent cared about poverty since LBJ.


And I get what you are saying about the impact of having a black president in the symbolic sense, but there is a big difference between being a symbol and doing something with that position for your people.

 

[Walt]

and this is the other thing too, while I give West props for raising these issues this nikka has no solutions either. Sorry, "love" is his solution.

He's an utter embarrassment. Most black people are too far removed from anything but desperate hero worship to know, and most white people don't care. But it's truly sad when it isn't enraging. The death of the black intellectual is one of the most depressing things to have witnessed... who represents black perspectives in the mainstream? Touré? Al Sharpton? Cornel West? Iron Mic Dyson? The same shameless, venal, psychopathic ethos that ruined the economic and political landscape of America seeped into just about everything. At this point there isn't much discourse to have, I just want to punch a lot of these bozos in the face.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Let's be 100 about it though, we could've very easily been looking at President Romney if Obama focused just a c*nthair too much on addressing black America.

Again, he's been playing a ballgame that none of us have to.

Agreed.

I said this in 2007.

Rebelsphere: My recent dialouge with a journalist regarding Barack Obama's "Blackness"

 

[mastermind]

who represents black perspectives in the mainstream? Touré? Al Sharpton? Cornel West? Iron Mic Dyson?

look how sad this list is.

 

[Walt]

Off topic but does Cornel West have a closet full of the same outfit like Albert Einstein?

I ran into him at an airport in Houston at about 10 am a few years ago and he was wearing his go-to outfit.

He's too deeply invested in his own cult of personality at this point. He thinks he's Malcolm Plato Einstein. I know for a fact that years ago one of his older black colleagues told him to cut his hair, take a year away from the teaching and lecture-for-profit circuit, and produce some worthwhile scholarship so he didn't sink into caricature. He claimed he would follow the advice, but he chose to chase his own ego in circles instead. He's as lame as they come.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'm not dressing up Black wants as radical, I only used it Any Means Necessary as an example but I'm not in total disagreement, but every time Barack Obama has spoken explicitly on Black issues, it's not from a Black enough standpoint, I remember when he went he spoke in African American fathers needing to take responsibility for their children, people said, well he's not really Black or he doesn't know the African-American experience. It's like we hear only what we wanna hear and I think this is the case with Cornel West because he wasn't saying any of that mess when Clinton passed that fukked up welfare bill or when NAFTA passed further destroying manufacturing jobs that have been holding up Black communities in the midwest however delicately. Even though he is an opponent of the free market.

I just think it's crazy for us to be asking things of Obama that we haven't asked anyone of in the past anyone in the past 20 or so years. Obama is not a Black leader, never was and never will be. Also I disagree with the idea that we squandered our political capital, we didn't. We as Blacks have more power than we have in 50 or so years, I just hope we realize it.

Dog...this is what I don't agree with.

NO PRESIDENT since 1961 has talked as little about race than Barack has. So when hearing this being uttered, I never agree with because he RARELY talks about race.

Second....Cornel WAS saying those things about NAFTA back then.

This is part of the ad hominem critiques which have nothing to do with his arguments.

Either way, all these dudes shelf life are tied to Obama's Presidency. They're all on borrowed time.

 

[AV Dicey]

...and yet Romney/Ryan were still 'shell shocked' to bolivia with the 'unprecedented turnout that occurred in the urban areas'.

 

[OG Talk]

Ms. Oprah, Mr. Cosby, I am right back at your ass/
With all honor, Mr. Obama, please don't walk out so fast/
I got a question, got a question, got a question for you all/
Why when Oscar Grant got murdered, we didn't hear a peep from y'all?/
We appreciate the way you delegate for Henry Gates/
But what about your people slaving in these fields everyday?We know that House got air conditioning and the sweetest lemonade/
But don't forget your color, brother, we still muthafukking slaves/
And that even go for Puffy who so muthafukking paid/
That he's richer than these White folks or at least that's what he say/
That's what he say, that's what he say, and them petty nikkas love it/
Think about it, what's a rapper standing next to Warren Buffett?/
Ha ha ha, now you nikkas are properly enlightened/
You can disregard that sell-out shyt that Jason Whitlock writing/
You can disregard that racist shyt that Glenn Beck is reciting/
I'm the leader of the gang, tell them to get a mike

Either way like Reb said.. The whole "he can't say that cuz he gonna scare dem white folks away" logic died on November 7 2012... He never has to worry about the white vote ever again...No more excuses...

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Foolishness.

He had a re-election to campaign for. This is American politics.

He's too deeply invested in his own cult of personality at this point. He thinks he's Malcolm Plato Einstein. I know for a fact that years ago one of his older black colleagues told him to cut his hair, take a year away from the teaching and lecture-for-profit circuit, and produce some worthwhile scholarship so he didn't sink into caricature. He claimed he would follow the advice, but he chose to chase his own ego in circles instead. He's as lame as they come.

Wasn't Larry Summers beef with him at Harvard largely centered around him not producing any research and trying to pass off his rap album as a scholastic requirement?

I hate Larry Summers, but he had the right to fire his ass if that was the case.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

He's too deeply invested in his own cult of personality at this point. He thinks he's Malcolm Plato Einstein. I know for a fact that years ago one of his older black colleagues told him to cut his hair, take a year away from the teaching and lecture-for-profit circuit, and produce some worthwhile scholarship so he didn't sink into caricature. He claimed he would follow the advice, but he chose to chase his own ego in circles instead. He's as lame as they come.

Proverbs 18:2
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

 

[No1]

Wasn't Larry Summers beef with him at Harvard largely centered around him not producing any research and trying to pass off his rap album as a scholastic requirement?

I hate Larry Summers, but he had the right to fire his ass if that was the case.

What do you mean requirement? That you had to buy it? :mitt:

 

[Mike Otherz]

glenn ford of black agenda report is probably the most credible obama critic. so if u don't take cornel seriously, he is not the only one making the critique and others do it without the personal beef angle.

at the same time though, in 2008, did obama run on a progressive platform? maybe we are the ones who are mistaken. he basically doing the centrist ish he said he was gonna do. he wants to be clintons third term, and clinton was no friend of black people, despite black people loving him like their long lost father.

as long as we accept that then there is no reason to be disappointed. young black men in jail gonna have to suffer. sucks.

 

[NYC Rebel]

glenn ford of black agenda report is probably the most credible obama critic. so if u don't take cornel seriously, he is not the only one making the critique and others do it without the personal beef angle.

at the same time though, in 2008, did obama run on a progressive platform? maybe we are the ones who are mistaken. he basically doing the centrist ish he said he was gonna do. he wants to be clintons third term, and clinton was no friend of black people, despite black people loving him like their long lost father.

as long as we accept that then there is no reason to be disappointed. young black men in jail gonna have to suffer. sucks.

I love Glenn Ford.

I have his podcast auto downloaded on my I-Pad.

Dude brings the most coherent and rational arguments about Obama's policies.

 

[Walt]

Wasn't Larry Summers beef with him at Harvard largely centered around him not producing any research and trying to pass off his rap album as a scholastic requirement?

I hate Larry Summers, but he had the right to fire his ass if that was the case.

Yeah, pretty much. The war of words they engaged in was cringe-worthy.

Nothing was more embarrassing than his co-written memoir about "living and loving out loud."

He sacrificed the legitimacy of AFAM studies and black scholarship at the altar of his vanity. And it all boils down to the fact that for nikkas like him and Iron Mic Dyson, being accomplished and provocative as an intellectual doesn't satisfy their deepest insecurities. These dudes want to be Mos Def. They want to be perceived as "cool," they want to talk slang with young nikkas and be on tv stuntin' on panels (Dyson's "nikka please" closing argument at the "hip hop on trial" summit being an infamous example), fukking their students, hitting on random women while at academic conferences, and writing about rap or launching sensationalist attacks at prominent figures to grab headlines instead of doing any kind of meaningful scholarship or community organizing. Because meaningful work is challenging. They don't have time for that - they get paid, they stay in the finest hotels, they hobnob with celebrities, whites and blacks alike fete them as modern day giants... they're self-styled academic CEOs. They founded Rocafella, and the Ivy institutions that housed them and provided them greater exposure are Def Jam. They ain't intellectuals, they just hustlers who happen to know how to think.

 

[OG Talk]