Were the Egyptians black?

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I doubt the originals were black. Genetically and geographically they probably resembled people closer to the Mid-East. A lot of the art from the Old Kingdom doesn't appear to depict black people, but the Nubians conquered them later on, sometime around the 25th dynasty, and the art of that period will reflect black people.

They originally looked like this...

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But then eventually in the 25th Dynasty when the Nubians took over depicted them as...

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go look at the statues of Egypt's earliest Kings and queens

you're the type that would mutilate a statues nose attempting to discredit its blackness





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the 1st King of Egypt


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:heh: stop it man, this is embarassing. There's nothing wrong with being descended from West Africa, they have a rich culture and history to be proud of....hanging off the nuts of the ancient egyptians and trying to draw connections to them by any means necessary is kind of pathetic. All that from "pyramids to projects" bullsh!t is a fantasy designed to stroke egos.



why are the noses on ancient egyptian statues mutilated, chizzled, and defaced?


i guess you don't mind falsifying someone's true depiction

alot of c00ns think like you
 

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Aren't you a hebrew israelite? you're supposed to hate the egyptians.



1. Do all muslims hate America? you're watching too many videos of radical sects
2. I don't hate people, I hate lies, and the perpetuation of them
3. Ancient Israel and Ancient Egypt were an identical people
 

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that was supposedly napolean, but that story is most likely bullshyt since there were records in arab histories (I think) that documented the nose as being chopped before napolean ever got there

I read somewhere once that area became Islamic, some imam or something ordered the nose to be defaced cause some bedouin desert folks would go there and make offerings and sacrifices to it, and the mooselems figured it was idolatry. But IDK, why wouldn't they just blow the whole head off or something?
 

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go look at the statues of Egypt's earliest Kings and queens

you're the type that would mutilate a statues nose attempting to discredit its blackness





menes.jpg

the 1st King of Egypt


:troll:

Sorry to crush your self-esteem, but I'm just taking an honest look at it. I don't have a vested interest in trying to make myself feel better about being black by pretending that the Egyptians were originally black.

BTW I'm not sure what the picture you posted proves. Certain phenotypes are not exclusive one ethnic group. You have Asian, North African, and various Mid East cultures that have broader featrues. From what I can tell, geographically and genetically there seems to be more evidence that they weren't black. Theonly thing you nikkaz are so hyped about is that it's physically on the African continent--even if Cairo and the oldest artifacts are on the tip top right corner bordering Israel and Saudi Arabia. Egypt is geographically and culturally much more closer to the Mid East than it is to the rest of Africa. :yes:

Maybe one day you kids will find some pride in your own people :yes:
 

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why are the noses on ancient egyptian statues mutilated, chizzled, and defaced?


i guess you don't mind falsifying someone's true depiction

alot of c00ns think like you

I'm not black, I'm Indian.

Secondly I'm not arguing that the ancient Egyptians werent originally a "black" people because I believe that they were. I'm just questioning this obsession with identifying with them at any and all costs. It seems foolish IMO.
 

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I doubt the originals were black. Genetically and geographically they probably resembled people closer to the Mid-East. A lot of the art from the Old Kingdom doesn't appear to depict black people, but the Nubians conquered them later on, sometime around the 25th dynasty, and the art of that period will reflect black people.

They originally looked like this...

2vmd947.jpg


2ms09cn.jpg


But then eventually in the 25th Dynasty when the Nubians took over depicted them as...

mwtok4.jpg



There were White People, and Mid-East people living in Ancient Egypt at any given time, but just posting pictures without evidence amounts to nothing.


The evidence actually points to Ancient Egyptians being from East Africa. They even believed they came from a land known as Pwent (pronounced Punt), and Puntland is the name of the Northern part of the Horn of Africa, and parts of Yemen.

Facts.
 

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Sorry to crush your self-esteem, but I'm just taking an honest look at it. I don't have a vested interest in trying to make myself feel better about being black by pretending that the Egyptians were originally black.

BTW I'm not sure what the picture you posted proves. Certain phenotypes are not exclusive one ethnic group. You have Asian, North African, and various Mid East cultures that have broader featrues. From what I can tell, geographically and genetically there seems to be more evidence that they weren't black. Theonly thing you nikkaz are so hyped about is that it's physically on the African continent--even if Cairo and the oldest artifacts are on the tip top right corner bordering Israel and Saudi Arabia. Egypt is geographically and culturally much more closer to the Mid East than it is to the rest of Africa. :yes:

Maybe one day you kids will find some pride in your own people :yes:



lol @ you ignoring the blatant mutilation of the black noses on egyptian statues

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Tous des noirs




crakkaz fear what they don't understand,

hate what they can't conquer,
 

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lol @ you ignoring the blatant mutilation of the black noses on egyptian statues

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zos.jpg


5747262137_fec110fe21_z.jpg



Tous des noirs




crakkaz fear what they don't understand,

hate what they can't conquer,

I don't agree with your message, or even what your saying, but the evidence you have provided is fact.

Ancient Egypt is as black as Ancient Greece and Rome are white. I didn't make the rules. They just are this way.

As for TuT's Halpogroup, I already said, that is not a good indicator of race, because Thomas Jefferson Halpogroup is the same as many Somalis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T_(Y-DNA)
 

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I'm not black, I'm Indian.

Secondly I'm not arguing that the ancient Egyptians werent originally a "black" people because I believe that they were. I'm just questioning this obsession with identifying with them at any and all costs. It seems foolish IMO.

Well, to be fair. The origin and "race/ethnicity" of Ancient Egyptians is the only ancient civilization that has been hijacked passed as someone else's. Not surprised since they were ahead of their time and everybody admired them. I think that this debate is important to clear some things up for future generations. Nobody is trying to say they are direct descendants of Ancient Egyptians, more than likely they were wiped out of the land If they were still around, they should still be speaking "Egyptian", something should have been preserved from their culture or language, but we don't see that among modern Egyptians. Afterall, Iranians still speak Farsi even after Arab invasions. :manny: This tells me that they practically wiped out after the land was being passed around like a blunt from one kingdom to another. It like the US being conquered by Russia for a few hundred years and later Chinese. If that happened a Native American would be a thing of the past.

You watch those old Cleopatra (who was mixed with Macedonian) movies and other Ancient Egypt based stuff from back in the day and all the slaves were black and all the nobles are white. :comeon:

Also to dead a lot the arguments about the "racial" origin of the Pharaohs who were mummified and preserve, their DNA was analyzed and it was found that their DNA was closer related to African tribes of the Great Lakes of Africa and southern, Chadic and Cameroons than any other group in the world.

In December 2011, DNA Tribes released an analysis, based on 8 forensic autosomal STR markers, of the Amarna Pharaohs concluding that "Results indicated the autosomal STR profiles of the Amarna period mummies were most frequent in modern populations in several parts of Africa."

Top MLI (Match Likelihood Index) scores for Amarna mummies based on the world regions identified by DNA Tribes® STR analysis. Each MLI score identifies the likelihood of occurrence of an STR profile in that region versus the likelihood of occurrence in the world as a whole.


This study was completed by Swiss scientists. The chart says a lot...look at the results.
Racial identity of Tutankhamun - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Funny thing is, they are claiming that King "Tutankhamun has Haplogroup R1b1a2, to which more than 50% of European men belong.[45] However, this DNA group also shows up in parts of northern Africa, particularly Algeria, where tests have found it in 11.8% of subjects.[46] The R1b haplogroup is also found in central Africa around Chad and Cameroon,[47] but the Chadic-speaking area in Africa is dominated by the branch known as R1b1c (R-V88).[48] (Note that the Y-chromosome of King Tut has never been published, and speculation about it is based on some screencaps from a Discovery Channel documentary that may or may not belong to the Pharaoh)"

Notice, they don't want to reveal what was found on the y-chromosome.

If you look up the R1b
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA)

They say that western and northwestern Europeans have the highest R1b1a2 percentage. So how the the hell did that show up and skip the rest of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East? :wtf:

The British who conquered Egypt last and the Swiss scientists are trying to look like they are related to King Tut. :heh:

Then, they point out the R1b is found the highest concentration in Africa. Especially among African tribes in the Cameroon region. Like 90+% among multiple tribes. A high percentage in the Chadic region as well.

Basically, when looking at his entire DNA profile, King Tut is closer related to Eastern and sub-Saharan Africans than any other group in the world.
 

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Aren't you a hebrew israelite? you're supposed to hate the egyptians.

Hebrew Israelites try to prove Ancient Egyptians were Black so they can then attempt to prove the Biblical Israelites who came in contact with them were Black as well.

All in all, both the Egyptians and Israelites had nothing to do with West Africans or Blacks in America.
 

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lol @ mixed breed,

you must mean a non dark skinned black man


if the original egyptians were walking around in America today, they would be categorized as black





the same way the original Hebrew Israelites are :mjpls:

read the Life and Times of Ahknaten

he was a mix of Syrian and Nubian

he was mixed just like Barack Obama and Colin Powell are mixed

deal with it
 

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You watch those old Cleopatra (who was mixed with Macedonian) movies and other Ancient Egypt based stuff from back in the day and all the slaves were black and all the nobles are white. :comeon:

Cleopatra was white, she was Greek/Macedonian and was part of the Ptolemies (Greek dynasty that ruled Egypt)

 
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BTW I'm not sure what the picture you posted proves. Certain phenotypes are not exclusive one ethnic group.

co-sign

these same people pigeon-holing Black peoples features when it comes to debates on historical civilizations are the same ones that will turn around and claim "Black diversity" when talking about contemporary issues.

Black is too broad and essentially meaningless when it comes to culture, ethnicity, and identity.
 

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if the original egyptians were walking around in America today, they would be categorized as black

:heh:

this post right here just helps my argument that the Ancient Egyptians were a mixed group of people. Consider the fact that "Blacks" in America range from light to dark and how it's well known you guys have significant amounts of racial admixture flowing through your veins.

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