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After reading some of the comments in this thread I'm glad I'm not religious. People act as though religion is only reserved for a select few. I guess everyone in here is exactly the same as they were 12 years ago. Is nobody capable of change or redemption? These are the very foundations of some of the more popular belief systems but Ray isn't deserving I guess. There must be no such thing as penance or confession. Forget the religion stuff, let's talk facts. He stood trial and took care of the families of the men that lost their lives. He's completely changed his life since then. Working with at risk children, advocating the importance of physical fitness, and trying to be a mentor and leader. Who in here can say they've done even half of that? The funny thing is I'm not some crazed fan, just a guy that's been paying attention.
 

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breh it happens but you gotta think hard to remember cause nobody ever brings it up after the fact like they do with black players

with black players they never let you forget

off the top the ones i can remember are:

Jared Allens 3 DUIs that are never brought up or mentioned When Jared is ever on a team worth a damn, let me know.
that Jags WR that got caught with coke and that never got mentioned cause they was too busy shytting on pacman(who has never been convicted of a crime) - this is the only shyt I dont know about, and thats cause the Jags are a non-entity
junky Favre abusing drugs and harassing females - favre sending dikk picks was a MAJOR story for weeks. And it was painkillers, big whoop
Ben raping bytches - yea, this is never brought up :comeon:

all of these barely got talked about when they happened and never gets brought up since it happened but let a black player get in trouble and its big new that gets talked about 24/7 and they will never let the public forget about it and will always bring it uup for no reason

just watch a bengals game,they still bring up the pacman shyt every fukking game even though he was never convicted of any crimes but do you ever hear about Jared Allens 3 DUIs when you watch a vikings game?

open your eyes breh

I love the way yall acting as if Rays past has been a focal point in the media. shyt most in this thread didnt even known about his multiple BMs until this bytch brought it up. Stop criticizing the self-inflicted negative press these athletes get and start criticizing their destructive behavior. Pacman has admitted himself he was a fukk up. How about that cowboy player who killed his teammate in a dui accident? shyt was a story for all of three days. Are they following it? No. Cause he was a nobody. Just like Jared Allen. Yall need really stop equivocating
 

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No one is saying that. Re-read every post in here made by me. I saluted the brother. I hope he continues his journey. I hope every receives the lord, whenever, wherever. What I am saying is if you step onto that pulpit you better be prepared to have all your skeletons out in the closet.

People shop around for churches all the time to see which ones they "fit" into.

Are the people like minded?

Do they share the same values?

Religion is more than a relationship with god but it is also a social experience. People hold their pastors to high esteem so when a pastor is found to be doing something wrong, he steps down. The people of the church are let down. You can sit up here and say, "they should stick it out because the word is more important than one man" but for a lot of people it isn't and only now the church is starting to realize that.

People aren't going to hear the message if they don't like the messenger and guys like Ray Lewis who are polarizing figures preaching and catching the holy ghost on the field will turn more people off to religion than not especially with all his baggage. He should know that and anyone who has stepped foot in a church should know that.

This was too damn easy. If you going to step onto that pulpit you accept this responsibility.
i hear what you saying but its old shyt,at some point you gotta let that go and realize hes a changed man

yall christians are so gotdamn judgmental...i thought yall wasnt suppose to judge people :usure:
 

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I love the way yall acting as if Rays past has been a focal point in the media. shyt most in this thread didnt even known about his multiple BMs until this bytch brought it up. Stop criticizing the self-inflicted negative press these athletes get and start criticizing their destructive behavior. Pacman has admitted himself he was a fukk up. How about that cowboy player who killed his teammate in a dui accident? shyt was a story for all of three days. Are they following it? No. Cause he was a nobody. Just like Jared Allen. Yall need really stop equivocating

Jared Allen is a nobody? :dwillhuh:

dude will more then likely make the hall of fame so how the fukk is he a nobody :heh:

and i didnt say his past has been the focal point i said they never let you forget which is true

when Ray first announced his retirement the first thing the media talked about was his case...did anybody bring up Favres fukk ups when he announced his retirement those 3 times? Hell no and it will never be mentioned again

the fact that you dont even know about white players fukk ups proves my point
 

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Wow, I see shyts gotten real just on the last page. Let me take a stab at this...
errr, maybe perhaps it doesnt happen as often? :: Naw, that can't be it. Everything white athletes do is swept under the rug by the fukking Illuminati. Got damn I swear some of you cats live in an alternate reality. Always justifying delinquent black behavior by saying "if a white person does it", with absolutely NO historical examples. Wheres your evidence?! Just a slew of hypotheticals to reinforce your paranoia. I distinctly remember TMZ making a big deal out of Tebow being at mardi gras. Mcenroe is still called a nut.
An alternate reality you say :wtf:
But why limit this to "just athletes" that right there makes it much harder to get the truth out there. It seems like a calculated comment. The Media keeps issues that white athletes do under hush hush for the most part. I'll give you examples in a second. But since this is true, thats the reason its harder to bring up or even talk about them.
Peep this thread, cuz this is some of the info you asked for...

http://www.the-coli.com/coliseum/71...snt-get-talked-about-enough.html#.UP3nL_JyHTo

Read, understand the original post. Its right there for yourself. And realize that thread is a microcosm :hula:
Welcome to our world. That's why I stated sadly more will be able to identify with Ray instead of Tebow which is a problem because they will justify behavior that is unacceptable everywhere except here.
Bruh, you on and been on some ova shyt. Welcome to our world :what:
Let me take you into OUR WORLD where muthafukkaz are trying to scream reverse racism while being racist. More identify with Ray Lewis over Tebow :skip:
Yeah, cuz Tebow didn't have like the highest selling jersey last year.. top 10 this year EVEN THO HE DIDN'T PLAY :stopitslime:
15 Best Selling NFL Jerseys of 2012 | Total Pro Sports

What are you gonna sell me now.. that Jersey sales have nothing to do with what people identify with? You could use that argument for a player who actually was on the field. In Tebow's case, :ufdup:
And this is what you based your rant on, bullshyt. We like to call that White Guilt :ahh:
But here is where your comments get EVIL ala W.Welker Wife and I MUST quote you...
which is a problem because they will justify behavior that is unacceptable everywhere
Wow, thats some powerful Rush Limbaugh'esque type shyt right there boy :whew:
I'll cut my own head off and leave this site for good if you can show me where WE (black ppl) justify what Ray Lewis was "accused" of.
Or condone it.. or look the other way.. or however you choose to word it
Show me, cuz its to my understanding that White America praised Ray Lewis for having a hand in killing two black men. Not the other way around.
I don't know the details. Just learned less than a week ago that he may have held a nikka while he got stabbed.
That was news to me. And I believe he did do that, and I get that vibe when I look that man in his eyes
I see the pain. I understand his passion now. I understand yours too, and you are a Benedict Arnold. That's why your "justifying" what this bytch said because of your pre-determined views on nikkaz which is closer to this...
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funny but i dont see nobody in here callin her fake. thats protocol in these type of situations for cacs. pop shyt and apologize
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After reading some of the comments in this thread I'm glad I'm not religious. People act as though religion is only reserved for a select few. I guess everyone in here is exactly the same as they were 12 years ago. Is nobody capable of change or redemption? These are the very foundations of some of the more popular belief systems but Ray isn't deserving I guess. There must be no such thing as penance or confession. Forget the religion stuff, let's talk facts. He stood trial and took care of the families of the men that lost their lives. He's completely changed his life since then. Working with at risk children, advocating the importance of physical fitness, and trying to be a mentor and leader. Who in here can say they've done even half of that? The funny thing is I'm not some crazed fan, just a guy that's been paying attention.

you and me both breh

i swear i cant stand these hypocritical judgmental christians sometimes
 

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nikka, where's your fukking evidence?! Where are all these white athletes getting caught up in drug or murder charges? Shooting themselves in the ass in clubs? Multiple baby mamas? Choking their coaches? etc. The entire fukking nhl is white, you dont hear shyt about them outside of the sport.

Im tireda you mother fukkers justifying these degenerates by bringing up these mythical white fukk ups. Call me an Uncle Tom, you know what, I dont give a fukk
Well I provided evidence already. As for where are all the charges?
As a black man in America, the way things go down is very different than how things go down for white folks.
Once upon a time, myself and about 13 white people where at a house party
There was more ppl there, but this is in a single room.
Anywayz, I'm rolling up a blunt. The police walk into the room because some retard let them in
I drop the blunt, and it rolls backwards underneath the dresser I was standing by.. cops never see it nor look for it
What they do find is half of the bag still on the dresser.

Let me remind you there is 13ppl in the room. At this point, I wasn't even near the bag when they found it. This is what happens next
The cop points at me, and says "Ok, your the closes to the bag so I'm pinning this on you" and they take me in.
13ppl in a room, 2 guys actually was still leaning up against the dresser when the cops came thru the door
Thats what happened. This is what often happens. This is America

From your point of view, if we talked about Jail populations you'll say "All those black criminals"
From my point of view its "They targeting black ppl to fill those jails, not the other way around"

I can back up my point of view from just personal life experience, and watching white people (close friends of mine) get away with much worse on a consistent basis to the point they often joke about "If Courtney was driving" cuz they experienced it themselves as well
But if my experience isn't enough. I can provide constant reminders if you prefer?
Jena 6 happened in 2007
5 Years Later, Jena 6 Move On | Breaking News for Black America
I mean a nygga with 6 kids by 4 different women? WTF is he going to tell me about God? :stopitslime:
He could tell you everything about GOD, why couldn't he?
Your fist mistake is your looking to any man to be identical to GOD... and then they can speak :comeon:
Without speaking to any man, God has laid out some rules for all of us to follow. We don't follow them all, and when we dont ppl like YOU then think you can take GOD out of the equation because of it (devil move)
Look, the hardest thing to follow... and God I believe (maybe jesus.. maybe it was a priest) but the hardest thing to do, is to forgive.
THATS THE HARDEST THING WE AS A PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN.. TO FORGIVE
That means forgiving the person who shot and killed your Brother :hula:
It means forgiving Ray Lewis if he is truly sorry, or praying for him if he isn't
The way your acting, what different than Jena 6 judges?
Maybe you forgot the story... 14yr old black kid ask if he can sit under a tree, is denied because that area is for WHITE KIDS ONLY (year is 2007)
Next day, white kids put up nooses at that exact spot
Next day a fight breaks out.. my link makes it seem like it was 6 on 1 (white excellence there)
These 6 black kids are charged with attempted murder.. the kid who was almost murdered was at a party the very next day

Anywayz, not that you need to show compassion in this instance.. We forced it out of them.
So what has happened to those 5 Killer Negro's? El Negro's
Members of the Jena Six are determined to move away – and learn – from their controversial pasts. They say they want to be something one day: A sports agent, a lawyer, a military man. Those interviewed said they don’t run into problems when they return to Jena to visit family.

“I’ve tried to wash those memories out of the back of my head,” said Jessie Ray Beard, who was 14 when he was arrested in the beating. “I have other things to concentrate on.”

Beard’s attorney’s arranged for him to stay with another attorney’s family in New York about three and a half years ago and attend the Canterbury School, a private boarding school in Connecticut.

“That first year was very, very hard for him,” said Alan Howard, the attorney with whom Beard lives.

“It took a tremendous effort on his part to make it.”

Beard has since gone on to Hofstra, where he earned an academic scholarship, is pursuing legal studies and business, and plays on the lacrosse team. He plans to go to grad school on the west coast and eventually work as a sports agent.

Robert Bailey Jr., who graduated from high school in Georgia, plays wide receiver at Grambling and is a member of the ROTC. After he graduates in 2013, he hopes to pursue a military career.

“Because of what happened, I grew up. I learned things too, like doing things the right way,” Bailey said.

Mychal Bell, who was 16 at the time, was the only defendant to go to trial. He was convicted, but that decision was set aside. He ultimately pleaded guilty to a second-degree battery charge and received an 18-month sentence. The other five accepted a plea deal that gave them seven days probation, a $500 fine and court costs.

Bell, a highly recruited football player before the beating, is a cornerback on Southern University’s team. His attorney said it was best if he wasn’t interviewed.

“Every time there’s something in the press about him, he gets a lot of hate mail,” said Bell’s attorney, Louis Scott.

Theo Shaw, 21, is now studying political science and history at Louisiana University-Monroe and plans to go to law school. He has done several internships in the field, he said, including one with the Innocence Project, a national nonprofit that works to free wrongfully convicted prisoners. His time in jail sparked his interest in law – he said he spent a lot of time reading up on the subject so he could file court papers.

“I do think it was a situation that helped me to develop character and be a better person,” Shaw said. “But beyond that, I don’t think of it much anymore.”

Bryant Purvis is enrolled in Southeastern Louisiana. Carwin Jones did not return calls left with his father for comment.

The victim, Justin Barker, is the only one who still lives in Jena. Now 22, he’s an inconspicuous young man: thin, with soft brown hair and large eyes, a Southerner raised to say “Yes, ma’am” and “Yes, sir” and stay quiet around strangers. So he’s always surprised when someone asks if he’s “that” Justin Barker, he told The Associated Press in his first media interview since the beating five years ago.

“That’s the only time that whole thing comes up,” Barker said, sitting in the dining area of his tidy new trailer. These days he works on an oil rig in Texas – seven days on, seven off – and helps his father cut timber when he’s home. He recently divorced the woman who was his girlfriend when he was beaten.

The defendants initially claimed Barker had made a racial slur, prompting the attack. But they admitted that was untrue as part of the plea deal. As for Barker, all he remembers is this: He walked out of the gym and turned left to avoid a crowd when something hit him.

“I don’t know why they attacked me,” he said. “No one ever told me, and I don’t have a clue until this day.”
Everyone one of those kids if charged the way they was gonna do them? What would of happened to there futures? I live in Virginia and I'm telling you they did me that way. Its not some isolated shyt that goes on in rural alabama, its nationwide. Meanwhile the kid who took the beat down, yeah he never learned of what/where/why? :deadmanny:
He just lived in a town with the population of 3,000. The entire universe knows why he took that ass whoopin, but him?

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fukk this cac and anybody who dont think this was racist, dumb ass bytch needs to fall back, ray wasnt convicted of shyt

fukk that religion shyt, i dont believe it, but nikkaz believe what they want to and think is best
 

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i hear what you saying but its old shyt,at some point you gotta let that go and realize hes a changed man

yall christians are so gotdamn judgmental...i thought yall wasnt suppose to judge people :usure:

Breh you see what you doing right now? You are trying to find me in a hypocritical stance to dismiss my opinions on the matter as a Christian. Just by me being on this site would be hypocritical to some. It's perfectly natural. It's what we do as human beings because we are flawed individuals. No one is perfect and no one is above criticism. But not all sins are equal and to pretend they are would by lying to ourselves.

In my personal life I am very careful with the words I use when it comes to this topic simply because I would never want to scare people away from the word. I've had this talk with pastors and others concerning this topic and off the record most of them will tell you THEY HAVE FAILED in the modern era and that's because people are starting to question those who stand before them as sanctified. :manny:

It was too easy for her to pull up his personal shortcomings and deem him as a fake christian. Which many have done and will do, which will continue the negative image of Christians(more importantly Black) as being Sunday only Christians. I would never call someone that. I do however feel his actions have been forced.
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I love you man. Redskins Nation :salute: but I ain't reading all that shh. I been on here too long already. Ya'll have a good night.

My reply to YOU is all about religion bruh. And I pointed out how you are hypocritical and being a disservice to any religion by your actions
If you choose to ignore what is said, you embody the whole "fake Christian" angle because you fail to see your own flaws.
Which really ticks off non religious types cuz it makes you a bullshytter.

Thats cool, Up with the lord, down with ******s, we got you :ufdup:
 
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Jared Allen is a nobody? :dwillhuh:

dude will more then likely make the hall of fame so how the fukk is he a nobody :heh:

and i didnt say his past has been the focal point i said they never let you forget which is true

when Ray first announced his retirement the first thing the media talked about was his case...did anybody bring up Favres fukk ups when he announced his retirement those 3 times? Hell no and it will never be mentioned again

the fact that you dont even know about white players fukk ups proves my point

Hes a nobody in the popular media sense. Yea hes had 3 duis, but did he kill or injure anybody? Jones' boys shot up a club and paralyzed somebody. Rays boys murdered two ppl, allegedly with his help. SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE? And as I said before, Favre sending dikk pics was a major story, even in regular media, cause HES A STAR. My MOTHER knows who favre is.

Once again, STOP fukking equivocating.

And Court you're the last person on here I would respond to. like mikebrown, Im done here
 

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Hes a nobody in the popular media sense. Yea hes had 3 duis, but did he kill or injure anybody? Jones' boys shot up a club and paralyzed somebody. Rays boys murdered two ppl, allegedly with his help. SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE?

yea difference is yall judging Ray and Pacman for what they friends did but give Allen a pass for what HE did THREE TIMES!!!!

that white privilege is a motherfukka :wow:
 

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It blows my mind how much you guys let trolls and aliases dictate conversations on this forum.



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This shyt is amazing.
Just when I actually thought you might really be black, you've proved me wrong over the last few days. :snoop:
LOL @ you shunning people thinking you were white. and exposing yourself as a tap dancing uncle tom.
fukk a proof pic, he used to post under a different username (wesley pipes quotes) and he admitted to being a race-baiting white dude. Of course that thread is deleted so I can't bump it, but I know other people remember it.

Plus, he has repeatedly exposed the fact that he is clueless when it comes to racial issues, especially from a black male perspective. He's pretty persistent for an idiot though, so I'll give him that.

Even if he is black (and that's a big if) he is a certified troll and should not be taken seriously. It's undeniable at this point.
 

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Mothafukkas still trying they best to bring my boy Ray Ray down...:smh:

Some of you nikkas oughta be ashamed at some of these weak ass bytch-made arguments y'all coming with...how the hell is he a phony at this point cuz he done went thru some thangs and been delivered and now wants ppl to know God is good?!?! That's what u suppose to do as a Christian!!

He's a hypocrite cuz he hasn't led a perfect life?!?! shyt I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the majority of ppl in church are hypocrites then, from the pastors on down.

Y'all keep being mad tho, y'all bout to be on suicide watch when he goes out on top in 2 weeks.
 
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