Weezy Going At Baby And Cash Money, Wants Off The Label

[Tommy Knocks]

it's not just lack of INTELLIGENCE

it's more so DESPERATION and allowing thier EMOTIONS to over ride THIER reasoning

what is common in that Caddilac records movie and the Baby Wayne situation

is they (the artists) saw the BUSINESS MAN as THIER DADDY

I've encountered these "relationships" often.....amongst grown a$s men

I remember being giving the task of managing an artist for a fledgling Indy label

and it came about cause the BOSS didn't feel like "babysitting" the artist and doing things beyond the nature of the contract

and I understand

pretty soon I was giving this man transportation to his sessions and shows and putting food in his fridge and getting his baby mama to classes on time

and then he catches feelings cause the BOSS won't allow him his Master Recordings as he was exiting

it's pathetic

and it's not just the Music game....

boxer Antonio Tarver just signed to Al Haymon so he can not only pay off his gambling debts to a Vegas casino but food and shelter as well cause he was HOMELESS after AL HAYMON paid debts and bailed him outta jail...

SO AS HE SAID HE IS FIGHTING TO REPAY HIS DEBT

so nothing surprised me about the Wayne situation

When u see a guy who basically been TAKEN CARE of BABY since a preteen

but as Beanie Sigel says There is a DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAMILY AND RELATIVES

And EMOTIONALY driven artists NEED TO LEARN THAT

this is some sad shyt. I seen this too (being from LA) and AnRs dong shyt like this. in fact, I see black men doing this with fat ass pawgs. I blame them being fatherless and needing to be taken care off as opposed to having their shyt together and being leaders. like a bunch of grown babies. pathetic.

 

[JamesCannon]

One thing I always see in these conversations is

"Lil Homie shoulda lawyered up."

GTFO

When you come in the game you have 0 leverage. When you get to the table there's 25,000 of you and one birdman rubbing his hands together.

You think you going go in that room with a contract drafted by a Manhattan firm and not leave out on your azz with a black eye? These youngins got no leverage. Maybe C3 Wayne did. But 12 year old "you'll shoot your eye out" Wayne sure as fukk didn't.

And your average 20-30 year old rapper trying to get on has NO leverage. So all this "They shoulda been smart talk" is bullshid. Cause if they woulda been smart they woulda been kicked the fucc out the room so that the dumbass eagerly waiting behind them could sign the contract.

 

[JamesCannon]

What amaze me is the bow wow, twist and chuckies they drop all this bread on before they're 18 and elligible to be under contract. If any of those dudes coulda got hot by 17 and 11 months off that hand rubbing stimulus and broke out Birdman woulda had no legal recourse.

 

[Earnings]

what's ASTOUNDING about that??

that's been a common practice of the music industry going back to it's inception during the early 20th century.........

look at Cadillac Records and you see how that Record Label boss was giving Muddy Waters and Little Walter ...cadillacs and clothes

but no royalties......

hell you had the D.O.C sign away his publishing for a damn chain that Eazy E bought for him...

and the case of Bone Thugs and Harmony who Eazy E's wife reportedly gave them usuage of the limo to ride around town and get lifted off of a half pound of weed..while she raped their revenue........

hell I can tell you personally of a dude who did a significant amount of writing for a southern artist.....and the label got his publishing simply by giving him a chevy impala that wasn't even in his name Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue story.................

it's the same old capitalist relationship of the Pimp and Hoe described best in the movie "THE MACK"

"all byatches are the SAME..i keep em BROKE....I'll keep em looking pretty and all that...BUT NO DOUGH "

The game aint for erybody

I cant believe Bone's price was so low tho Limo and weed???.... Ultra okiedoke shyt. But then again being frm grimey ass East Cleveland them boys jus wanted to smoke good and live the life

Spoiler

i aint kno 2 Chainz liked impalas tht much

@The HONORABLE SKJ

 

[the cac mamba]

That Stephen a smith gif with him holding the cup of coffee is so damn obnoxious lol shyt makes me every damn time i see it

know what else is obnoxious? people using that smiley like "that makes me you mad"

 

[ultimatemike]

besides the bull shlt from Cortez has there been any statements from Cash Money or Birdman?

 

[SuburbanPimp]

I knew once Wayne started calling Birdman his Dad and them nikkas ain't even related that he must have been brainwashed....

Its sad though.... Wayne put cash money on his back for damn near a decade and he can't even get enough respect there to be able to drop his album. Any new rapper would be a idiot to sign with Cash Money at this point. Nicki and Drake should be working on an exit strategy as we speak

 

[Big Boss]

Point is. ..dude ain't broke. He just got off a tour a few months ago and has alot of endorsements.

im pretty sure is getting a cut

 

[360dagod]

besides the bull shlt from Cortez has there been any statements from Cash Money or Birdman?

Stunna laying low

 

[ignorethis]

Who is surprised by this, Baby is a student of the J Prince "School of Owning Souls Through Recording Contracts"

You sign with Baby he gonna eat off you forever

 

[kareem929]

They got Chuckie ....Hes all over the damn place in this interview!

 

[TwoTecs]

Lets not forget that pac was getting raped by deathrow as well..

And pac was a smart dude.

I think music industry people are just shady as fukk, always looking to screw people.

Lets think about it, how many rappers have came out and said they had slave like deals? How many rappers have actually had good deals?

Its the norm to get screwed.

 

[Still Benefited]

it's not just lack of INTELLIGENCE

it's more so DESPERATION and allowing thier EMOTIONS to over ride THIER reasoning

what is common in that Caddilac records movie and the Baby Wayne situation

is they (the artists) saw the BUSINESS MAN as THIER DADDY

I've encountered these "relationships" often.....amongst grown a$s men

I remember being giving the task of managing an artist for a fledgling Indy label

and it came about cause the BOSS didn't feel like "babysitting" the artist and doing things beyond the nature of the contract

and I understand

pretty soon I was giving this man transportation to his sessions and shows and putting food in his fridge and getting his baby mama to classes on time

and then he catches feelings cause the BOSS won't allow him his Master Recordings as he was exiting

it's pathetic

and it's not just the Music game....

boxer Antonio Tarver just signed to Al Haymon so he can not only pay off his gambling debts to a Vegas casino but food and shelter as well cause he was HOMELESS after AL HAYMON paid debts and bailed him outta jail...

SO AS HE SAID HE IS FIGHTING TO REPAY HIS DEBT

so nothing surprised me about the Wayne situation

When u see a guy who basically been TAKEN CARE of BABY since a preteen

but as Beanie Sigel says There is a DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAMILY AND RELATIVES

And EMOTIONALY driven artists NEED TO LEARN THAT

I think folks is missing the part where these dudes like Tarver etc don't make moves financially to put themselves in a good situation to NOT get jerked....I don't know if Wayne is broke and I doubt it,but if he is he only put himself in a position to get jerked by the next person who brings him a contract if they know he's desperate....as long as he's been hot theres no excuse for him to not have enough money to where he should be hurting.

But these dudes come from the worst projects of New Orleans and folks really calling them dumb for signing...die or let ya mama get shot in the projects trying to negotiate a better contract brehs...desperation plays a huge part like you said.

And they really had no leverage coming in as Baby to my knowledge basically made all of them who they are....Wayne had all the leverage second time around so if he got a bad deal that's kind of him.

At this point theres no reason to not get hot independent first imo to where you can bring numbers to the labels and bend them over a table,traditionally if you look at the history of hiphop these are the people who don't get jerked with contracts. But artist have that fear of failure and you would hate to leave a big chunk of change on the table knowing your buzz could die any day now. And some of them are right,they buzz will die tomorrow and they should've took the deal the label was stupid to offer being caught up in the hype,and just been smart with the money

And lets stop talkin that "lawyer up" stuff as if lawyers and accountants don't have historys of being bigger snakes than Birdman....Do some of yall think any lawyer that most of these dudes can afford coming out the hood would not either be in over they heads dealing with a big labels lawyers?or worse yet be in cahoots with the label in hopes for future work since the lawyer thinks the kid he's representing is a future failure like most rappers.Ask all the nfl and nba players who lawyered up/agent'd up/accountant'd up and got ripped off how lawyering up worked out

Combat Jack who had history in the business as a lawyer admitted he signed a bad deal for Nore by "mistake"...shyt can go bad in a variety of ways in this shyt it seem like,who can u trust

And before you go feeling sorry for Juve,if he resigned chances are he's in a Tarver situation,or at least he aint working for nothing he cant deal with even if he know he aint getttin his full worth.

 

[Still Benefited]

And UTP's failure was Juve letting Buck go(wonder if he got paid),and failing to capitalize on Skip...lowkey I think 2chainz mighta sharked homies style and delivery

 

[Blatlanta]

Cortez Bryant contacted TMZ and said he was being Sarcastic when he said everything was alright