Weak black men, afraid to check each other.

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The past few days has made me realize something. You black men are complete pussies when it comes to checking each other, but you have no problem pointing out a black woman's flaw or telling them what they need to do for the black community.

This whole street harassment thing has shown me that instead of acknowledging black women and their concerns, they would rather make fun and point fingers at her. "Oh you were probably dressed like a slut." "Oh you made it up, that doesn't happen to my mama(cousin, auntie, grandma)." You do anything to avoid having to look at your fellow black man and acknowledge that he is the problem and he needs to be addressed.

It's not just this issue, it's with drug selling in the community, dead beats not parenting their kids, and more issues, you point the finger at black women, you blame " black matriarchy" without even thinking of the black man's hand in all of these issues.

On another forum, a male poster made a thread asking black women not to give up on black men, yet I won't hold my breath for a don't give up on black women thread because he would actually have to criticize another black man and we know black men don't do that especially when it is in defense of black women.

Take your neg reps or whatever other crap you think will bother me and kindly shove it up your ass. Don't bother posting one or two dusty old videos of one of the few black men with balls to check other black men. We knew the majority are not like that. Also I am not here to argue, I came to give my opinion and there is no amount of bullshyt you can spew that will change what I see with my own eyes.

Toodles.

Knee grow said Toodles. :mjlol:
 
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If black men did come together to repair & build up the community, what then?

Are BW all of a sudden going to pump the brakes on some of the bullshyt they be on and submit to black male leadership?

Would they even know how?

If we as black men checked each other, who's going to be in line to get checked next?

The black woman, right?:ohhh:



You get a bunch of nikkaz with their minds right and it might make the way that we address BW at the present moment look like childs play.

Black men have always tried to check each other....Black Panthers...Nation Of Islam..Steet Gangs(in the beginning) etc.Those are movements built on the premise of men taking on the leadership role and women being the facilitators.We just have this big white monkey on are backs.Everytime we try to build, they destroy.And since men are the natural leaders, any attempts to eradicate the race is going to be targeted at them.Covertly or otherwise.

There's a spiritual/psychological/econimical war waged against black people in this country(and many places abroad).Black women are being used as pawns against their own men and vice versa.They wanna make it seem like black women have collectively "outgrown" black men.You better believe they'd rather sit up in the office with a potential bed wench than a big greasy nikka anyday.Right now, black women are basically "booty" with a job.The spoils of a conquered/defeated people.Now she's working with Brad and fukking with Brad.They have children and in 3 generations, you'd never know great great grandma was a nikka.There is no escaping the pain we inherit in this country.Everywhere you try to run, you'll find a dead end.We can only solve it by working together.

I think it's some deep shyt going on.Dudes like Tommy Sotomayor are being used to increase the dissent between BM & BW.Although I think the black community is fukked up and a lot of the grievances we have with each other are justified, I still believe this online "gender war" stuff has a peculiar design to it.It's next level cointelpro type shyt.They've conquered nikkaz down to the depths of their soul.There's really nothing to infiltrate becase there's no structure.Just step back and let these nikkaz get entangled & quarrel over their own bullshyt
 

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I see this shyt all the time in real life. Everywhere from school to work, to the streets. Either you're completely blind to it, or you live in a Black community completely different from every other Black community in the United States and Canada. Actually, it just sounds like you're one of the men she's talking about, as they usually lack the ability to self reflect and realise what they're doing is wrong.
Obviously my post went over YOUR head because I was defending black women. Im from the home of the Black Panthers I dont need you school me on social issues.
 

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The difference between me & you? I can openly state there are some screwed up black men, but the inverse will never come off your lips, but if I were to call you an overgrown child who is incapable of accountability and needed to be led, you'd whimper, cry misogynist and take your ball and go home. You want black men to be accountable and acknowledge the men who powerbomb women through tables, but you won't be accountable and acknowledge the women who seek out these relationships and choose to stay in them. The very definition of a child mentally.

Newsflash, baby doll.

Every race has there share of individuals who relish in hostile relationships. Black women aren't exempt.

95% of us have a type. Everyone tends to follow a pattern in choosing a mate. If all your partners are violent and fit a certain M.O., then that's what you're seeking. Your only argument is that only the men abusing the women should be held accountable. It's not as if these women seek out these relationships and choose to stay in them. Tina Turner at her peak could have had ANY man she wanted. Rhianna could have gotten almost ANY man on this planet. The skinny ass DJ Khaled who drugged up and supposedly assaulted a black teen has shown what he's capable of, and some black women still want to have his children - their words. He's the only one fukked up mentally, though, right?


You're giving everyone the whole "woe is me," pity party schtick, but after you're done whining, nothing is gained once the participants finish patting you on the back and walk away from the discussion, and that proves my point. In these sort of discussions, women such as yourself aren't interested in discourse. You're interested in placing blame and creating dissension, and you'll continue to prove that by replying with your finger pointed and denying that women are human, also.

So she fits right in with the rest of the coli then? :troll:
 

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If black men did come together to repair & build up the community, what then?

Are BW all of a sudden going to pump the brakes on some of the bullshyt they be on and submit to black male leadership?

Would they even know how?

If we as black men checked each other, who's going to be in line to get checked next?

The black woman, right?:ohhh:



You get a bunch of nikkaz with their minds right and it might make the way that we address BW at the present moment look like childs play.

Black men have always tried to check each other....Black Panthers...Nation Of Islam..Steet Gangs(in the beginning) etc.Those are movements built on the premise of men taking on the leadership role and women being the facilitators.We just have this big white monkey on are backs.Everytime we try to build, they destroy.And since men are the natural leaders, any attempts to eradicate the race is going to be targeted at them.Covertly or otherwise.

There's a spiritual/psychological/econimical war waged against black people in this country(and many places abroad).Black women are being used as pawns against their own men and vice versa.They wanna make it seem like black women have collectively "outgrown" black men.You better believe they'd rather sit up in the office with a potential bed wench than a big greasy nikka anyday.Right now, black women are basically "booty" with a job.The spoils of a conquered/defeated people.Now she's working with Brad and fukking with Brad.They have children and in 3 generations, you'd never know great great grandma was a nikka.There is no escaping the pain we inherit in this country.Everywhere you try to run, you'll find a dead end.We can only solve it by working together.

I think it's some deep shyt going on.Dudes like Tommy Sotomayor are being used to increase the dissent between BM & BW.Although I think the black community is fukked up and a lot of the grievances we have with each other are justified, I still believe this online "gender war" stuff has a peculiar design to it.It's next level cointelpro type shyt.They've conquered nikkaz down to the depths of their soul.There's really nothing to infiltrate becase there's no structure.Just step back and let these nikkaz get entangled & quarrel over their own bullshyt

I agree but its not "whites" per say but jews
 

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I think people are really overlooking the socioeconomic aspect of the situation. The men that people are clamoring to be "checked" in this thread are usually lower on the totem pole, or come from that sort of background. Look at other communities. Look at successful white men, do you see them walking into trailer parks telling their poor counterparts to stop smoking meth? Do you see successful Mexican men going back to gangs and telling their brothers to cut that shyt out?

I know what you're going to say, that the burden is on the black men to be better than those other communities. To build our legacy once again. The thing is, it's just not realistic anymore. Do you think one grown man can "check" another grown man? Do you think a well-off black man can go back to his old impoverished neighborhood and tell the men his age what to do? How do think they would respond? These are full ass, grown adults. It's just not realistic.

Successful, working class and above black men put each other in line all the time, I say this anecdotally. It's the men in the streets that are casting the shadow. For these men, this is their life. All the know is the trap, the drugs, prison. The systematic oppression and pursuit of holding down the black man has divided us, and it means that some of us just cannot be saved. And some of us just don't want to be.

But that doesn't mean we are doomed. Men still have an obligation to serve their families. They can still reach out and guide the men and women in their immediate blood. And that would start a virtuous cycle, one in which black women would choose men fit to lead a household, and those men will father children who will do as their mother and father have done.

But this requires both black women and men to check each other, and stop the quarreling between one another. Fighting over these sorts of things mean nothing if solutions are not thought up and executed.
 

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As I stated in the other thread it was my talk with Tariq that inspired me partially to make this thread. As you can hear he is trying to pretend that he has never heard of this happening, it is all in the mind of black feminists and that only happens them even though I told him him I'm not a feminist. He also refuses to offer a solution and doesn't see it as "his problem" even though it is something that effects the black community. This is that talk:



The solution id's to not approach our be a thirsty dude and to diffuse thirsty behavior.

But it just isn't a black thing...every race does it and lesbians seem to be some of the worst.
 

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And I don't know what bizzaro world you're living in with this in the first place. You could look me in my eye and tell me with a straight face that woman beaters are celebrated or excused? They aren't often attacked by relatives or confronted? Really? Oddly enough, the one who usually refuses to prosecute him and bails him out of jail ends up being the female whose ass he kicked in the first place, but you won't address that. :laugh:

The only ones who are excused are the white ones.
 

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peace muffy, I enjoyed your lil convo with flex and you sound real innocent and shy lol. Were you a little nervous calling into the show? I think locking people up for verbal harassment will be problematic because of the first amendment. Obviously if they physically touch you then that is a different matter, but if it's just verbal then I don't see any type of laws getting passed for that. But outside getting laws stopping the verbal harassment, if I was a female and that stuff was happening to me I would 1). tell them to stop politely and if that doesn't work 2). Scream real loud and make a scene :manny:. I think if enough females did that then men that harass females to the levels that ya'll are talking might think twice.
Because females screaming loudly is the ultimate
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calling card for protection against :sitdown:.

Muffy is a complete clown. She actually thought having nikkas take a class would stop street harassment.
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Really though? Some impoverished nikkas who most likely don't put education as a priority should be put in some classes? She also had no objection to black women getting thrown in jail over street harassment. Be a black feminist brehettes. :mjlol:
 
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