Real talk I was trying to keep myself from making a real post and end up saying the bolded and shutting this thread down but since it got bumped enough (and not sent to the race track with all the flamebait in the OP oddly enough
) someone else got to it.
The premise of this thread is so silly tho. We're supposed to check nikkas for catcalling? You want random males to insert themselves into situations with strangers over women they don't know? That they can't even try to get with her afterward because it would be street harassment too
And checking deadbeat dads...the nerve of this chick to put that on there. they are publicly shamed already (hence the term deadbeat dad, but no term for thot moms) but even if they weren't you realize they wouldn't stop their lifestyle because
they're still getting p*ssy
The truth is related to the bolded tho. Whenever there is any type of gender politics discussion all women want to do is just say "WHAT ABOUT THE MEN, WHAT ABOUT THE MEN, WHAT ABOUT THE MEN". This thread is just OP reading some posts and make one big "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEN" post. No, men aren't blameless, NOBODY has ever claimed that. Nobody could claim that, because society checks men hard. And black men most of all are prosecuted to the fullest extent of he law. Even the deadbeats you mention can have their financial and literal independence stripped as a result of his actions. Did I really have to type that for adult eyes?
However the problem is this: There is no cooperation from women, and it is WRONG to expect any. The one (pretty much only) responsibility women have is mate selection. Under the old rules mate selection was handled by the parents or family and they had a majority say and they would choose the mates and give blessings to responsible provider males. Maybe the ancients understood how harmful unchecked hypergamy would be for a community. Dudes who identify with old order masculinity will see themselves as unquestioned leaders of family unit. But according to modern female ideology this is degrading. (but BW only feel this way with Black men
) However women do like the males taking on the responsiblity (and blame) of the relationship, and males accepted it.
Now women are free to choose who they want to mate and they do so based on feeling rather than the logical judgement of family. The inner city communities full of single mothers and baby boys are the result of this. Strong black men don't live in the hood, they find a submissive woman to build with and start a family. (shoutout
@Crakface ) Once black leadership was destroyed (MLK) and mate selection became unhinged,all racist government had to do was give some passive pushes (crack, destructive media) and watch the black nuclear divide. The thugs, drug dealers and deadbeats/players are enabled in our community because they are rewarded with sex. The responsible ones are with people reassuring him he's "doing the right thing" in spite of his unhappiness.
the only way to bring back the nuclear black family would be a change in mate selection, because aint shyt nikkas seem to be far more successful at finding women to trip and fall on their dikks and procreating as a result. Considering 2014's heart throb of the year is the convict dude I don't see much changing. Which brings us back to the bold. Women go the most unchecked. And unfortunately for black folks the media actually enables and encourages fukkery from us. Gives us platforms to disparage our race, encourages ratchetness, and co-signs degeneracy.
Prime example, this song
shyt is the prime example of the bolded quote and the weak men that have resulted in it. The songs about co-signing our women to be fukkin strippers. "I ain't judging you, go and get your money
" pretty much the opposite end of the spectrum as far as checking
@mrken12 @Matt504 @Data-Hawk
i know this post will get looked over but I want some intellingent eyes to see it
at just any ol nikka being about to "check" other black men....you gotta be respectable on the topic at hand before you start tryna check somebody breh.....By your logic,by your actions,personal experience,and people just respecting you as a man..
....I already know I aint fit to "check" nikkas in a lot of areas but I will voice my concerns when they doin what I think might be the wrong thing,and I support em and give props when they doin what I think right.....you got a make a thread tellin black men we need to support each other and give props and 
's when nikkas do something GOOD first,positive reinforcement......once nikkas see you are the type to do that,THEN maybe you can approach them and tell them when they doin sumthing you feel is wrong....but too many black men have seen criticism go bad to even try it,but you gotta show the love first brehs
....criticism being the first thing you give sumbody will automatically send them into defensive mode
..
) has made ridiculous generalizations about black men and even called us "savage beasts" along with many other phrases that white supremacists would use.
and the first thing he brought was his baby mamas, who are good women in my opinion and the only reason why he beefing with them is because they wanted money for the kids and rather spend it on strippers and video games. 
