We the A side over here BUD... thank you Al Haymon... Danny Garcia v Errol Spence Fox PPV Dec 5th

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@Dallas' 4 Eva you out your fukkin mind.:mjlol:


Stylistically Terence would give Spence hell bruh, the only reason Spence would be favored is because of the size difference.:troll:
Spence is better on the inside than Crawford...busier...and quite frankly, Spence would drop Crawford as Crawford goes straight back after he tries offense.
 

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How does Spence not have a speed advantage on Canelo? Canelo is slow as fukk is nikkas serious in here right now?
They think his combos speed count for his speed..Spence has the stamina over Canelo..really after round 6? I think its a wash...because isn't gonna land those heavy handed counters people are used to seeing him land.
 

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They think his combos speed count for his speed..Spence has the stamina over Canelo..really after round 6? I think its a wash...because isn't gonna land those heavy handed counters people are used to seeing him land.

Canelo is excellent at changing the direction on his punches which plays a lot into it, but he don't have better handspeed than Spence it aint even that close.
 

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I don't know how you watched Danny go to Spence's body all night and think "this man gives Canelo hell."
Well because slow ass GGG jabbed him up all night...Spence has the range and mobility to box Canelo up. He's been fighting guys with no athletic ability for years now. 6 years and counting....
 

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How does Spence not have a speed advantage on Canelo? Canelo is slow as fukk is nikkas serious in here right now?
You're the first person I ever seen call canelo slow. That's always canelo's main advantage against anybody from the jump. If canelo is slow then Spence is definitely slow. But the main issue between them is that Spence telegraph's his shots way more. Spence throws every shot at the same speed. Canelo mixes it up. And in exchanges he's much sharper and compact. Spence throws big looping combinations. That's why he gets caught so much.
 

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You guys really wanna see spence get hurt out here :snoop:.......let him get past Crawford first. That's another steep hill for Spence to climb. Another guy who's faster and sharper than him. Truth be told I think bud would give canelo a much tougher fight at 160 than spence. But that's neither here nor there. Let Spence handle business at 147. Canelo shouldn't even be on his radar. Derrick James is not letting him fight canelo anyway. There's no point even debating this.
 

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You're the first person I ever seen call canelo slow. That's always canelo's main advantage against anybody from the jump. If canelo is slow then Spence is definitely slow. But the main issue between them is that Spence telegraph's his shots way more. Spence throws every shot at the same speed. Canelo mixes it up. And in exchanges he's much sharper and compact. Spence throws big looping combinations. That's why he gets caught so much.

He starts throwing them looping combos when nikkas shell up on him cause they can't handle the pressure. Canelo is slow, he looks quicker than he is because he fights a lot of slow fighters bruh GGG and KKKovalev are slow Callum Smith is slow as well but he is really long to make up for it, Danny Jacobs aint quick either he boxes well but he aint quick. This is why I wanna see Spence fight Ugas someone who is the same physical stature as him so y'all can see his mobility, Spence moves very well, it isn't flashy but it is precise and he is quick.
 

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You're the first person I ever seen call canelo slow. That's always canelo's main advantage against anybody from the jump. If canelo is slow then Spence is definitely slow. But the main issue between them is that Spence telegraph's his shots way more. Spence throws every shot at the same speed. Canelo mixes it up. And in exchanges he's much sharper and compact. Spence throws big looping combinations. That's why he gets caught so much.
Canelo has shown good speed..his last fight at 175? He wasn't the same fast handed Canelo. Definitely sluggish..let's see if he's like his old self against Smith in the lighter weight.
 

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You guys really wanna see spence get hurt out here :snoop:.......let him get past Crawford first. That's another steep hill for Spence to climb. Another guy who's faster and sharper than him. Truth be told I think bud would give canelo a much tougher fight at 160 than spence. But that's neither here nor there. Let Spence handle business at 147. Canelo shouldn't even be on his radar. Derrick James is not letting him fight canelo anyway. There's no point even debating this.
Crawford vs Spence is a great fight but Crawford is gonna end up getting hurt. He fights fluffs and no contenders. Its kind of sad really.
 

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I don't even think Spence would wash Canelo and there is definitely a chance he gets clipped, but bruh y'all aint gonna downplay Spence skills when at this point he has showed you he has all the tools in his toolbox.
 

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Errol schooled danny like I thought he would. But I still think he needs to get back to full health. He looks like he lost a good amount of muscle mass. His frame just looked frail to me. Looks very sucked up in the neck area and weak to the body. Let him rest up. Clean out 147 first. Then maybe think about canelo.

But moving up right now to fight canelo would be a bad move. I just think canelo is all wrong for him. I always have. He's not gonna be able to walk canelo down. On top of that he don't even got the speed advantage. Usually the smaller guy has faster hands to offset the size difference but that wouldn't even be the case here. Spence telegraphs his shots too much and his defense can be spotty. His saving grace might be the jab but canelo's counter punching will probably have Spence reluctant to throw it anyway.

I'm just having a hard time seeing a path to victory for Spence against canelo. When you're the smaller guy going up against a fighter who's more technically sound and also faster than you it's gonna be a tough night. Canelo to me is just the better fighter period. Forget the size. Better defense. Better speed. Better counter punching. Canelo is more compact and fluid in them exchanges. He's gonna catch Spence with something nasty and it'll be lights out. This is a whole different level than anything Spence has experienced. Errol has canelo #1 p4p for a reason. He's been a fan of canelo from way back. He knows he's gotta be at a different level for that fight. Nobody should wanna see that fight happen right now. It'll be hopkins-trinidad all over again. Only the knockout will be far more brutal.

That's why I say let him clean out 147. Maybe even have a fight at 154 first. Then think about that fight maybe when canelo has lost a step. But right now nah. No way. Let him rest and get his body back to 100%. He had enough to beat a guy like Danny but canelo will be too much for him. There's just certain matchups where I'd bet my life on the outcome. And I'm telling you Spence will get badly hurt against canelo. Stylistically that's a nightmare matchup for him.


I saw the same thing N then the bell rang N he still looked Huge next to Swift

we all thought when Swift moved up he would be small but next to Keith N Shawn surprised he didn’t ... next to Spence tho it was hella noticeable

I interested to see when/if the fight ever happens how big Spence looks next to Bud
 

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I saw the same thing N then the bell rang N he still looked Huge next to Swift

we all thought when Swift moved up he would be small but next to Keith N Shawn surprised he didn’t ... next to Spence tho it was hella noticeable

I interested to see when/if the fight ever happens how big Spence looks next to Bud

Fannon did a livestream this morning and said he and Crawford sat pretty close to each other said Crawford seems like a real cool dude... he also said he was shocked at how small Crawford was. He has seen Spence in person as well as Crawford so I think it's gonna be pretty noticeable.
 

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He starts throwing them looping combos when nikkas shell up on him cause they can't handle the pressure. Canelo is slow, he looks quicker than he is because he fights a lot of slow fighters bruh GGG and KKKovalev are slow Callum Smith is slow as well but he is really long to make up for it, Danny Jacobs aint quick either he boxes well but he aint quick. This is why I wanna see Spence fight Ugas someone who is the same physical stature as him so y'all can see his mobility, Spence moves very well, it isn't flashy but it is precise and he is quick.
Either way I think we need to let Spence clean out 147. He shouldn't even be thinking about canelo. That's all just hype on his part. He been saying that for years but they never really chase canelo like that. But canelo is not slow no matter who he's fighting. The only guys who's ever had faster hands than canelo was Floyd. And errols hand speed is nowhere near Floyd's. It's more like Danny Jacobs if anything. Errol isn't slow either but the main difference is that canelo is far more compact and fluid. His shorter stature will actually work in his favor because he's gonna be able to get inside and beat Errol to the punch every time. And that'll be the difference. Errol has to fix all that wild loopy shyt. He still has way too many moments where he gets lazy and takes unnecessary shots because he can't keep his form tight.
 

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But I don't even wanna talk about Spence vs canelo. I'm just happy that Spence came back strong. But his interview after the fight let me know he needs to get some rest and heal up fully. Dude went back to the gym damn near immediately after he left the hospital. He took this fight to prove something. And you gotta give him all the respect in the world. But it's apparent that he's not physically 100% yet. He's gotta give his body some time to heal from all the trauma it's been through. Just the fact that he even took on a guy like Danny in his first fight back let's you know how much courage he has.
 
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