its not about blaming him specifically but his coalition still has a lot of power and every Democrat that has been pushed to the top has been from his shadow. He and his team thought using technocratic speak to say why you actually are doing fine, when you aren't has been disastrous
We need to start looking at Obama a bit differently
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Like I said in the OP. Obama told Joe to step down in 2016 and he organized the dropouts of all of the other candidates to back Joe in 2020.How the fukk is this Obamas fault
The Obama didn’t evaporate because of his shortcomings.. it disappeared because he’s a generational politician.
In 2016 the DNC did everything in their power to place Hillary in that spot ..Bernie had the juice to get there and pull together an Obama like coalition… but the DNC was literally rigging debates
In 2020 they formed like Voltron to slow Bernie down just to give us Biden
You know what kills the youth vote and enthusiasm on the left ? Shir like that
Now in 2024 the youth vote was a damn struggle
That’s not on Obama that’s the Democratic Party
Bernie has the electoral advantage of not being black
he'd be able to get away with way more than Obama (or Harris)
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Bernie was not beating Trump. Trump woulda emasculated him.Bernie has the electoral advantage of not being black
yet he was doing great with all of the demographics Kamala lost
Roger king
Superstar
The fact that obama with a middle name hussein running for president while the iraq war was still ongoing against the terrorists, not only won the election in an electoral landslide against a war hero and then won re election with a poor economy is even more impressive, obama is still the most succesful democratic president of the past 30 years, Clinton as well was a seasoned politician with charisma who defeated an incumbent president
Not in 2016
How the fukk is this Obamas fault
The Obama didn’t evaporate because of his shortcomings.. it disappeared because he’s a generational politician.
In 2016 the DNC did everything in their power to place Hillary in that spot ..Bernie had the juice to get there and pull together an Obama like coalition… but the DNC was literally rigging debates
In 2020 they formed like Voltron to slow Bernie down just to give us Biden
You know what kills the youth vote and enthusiasm on the left ? Shir like that
Now in 2024 the youth vote was a damn struggle
That’s not on Obama that’s the Democratic Party
Exactly,he handed them the black vote and youth vote on a silver platter for the next 30 years if they had handled it right. But as soon as Obamad term ended,the old guard jumped in position to try to ride his wave.
This is squarely on the Democrats and Hillary. Not just for her weaseling her way into that position despite Bernie clearly having the juice at the moment. But on top of that, shes the one who made it her strategy to elevate Trump thinking he was the easiest lick
Now you got one of the dumbest presidents in history looking like arguably a goat historically speaking. You dont have to like him,but what other president has pulled off what he has against what shoulr be impossible odds
FukkaPaidEmail
Retired Hoodrat whisperer
Joe had to step down because Bernie, Hillary and Warren were stomping him..that’s not a problem . Biden has ZERO shot at holding that Obama coalition together because a huge chunk of that coalition flocked to Bernie ..Biden was toast.
In 2020 that was Joe getting a Hail Mary from the DNC and James Clyburn in the South Carolina primary ..Obama came in after the fact..but if 2016 never happened 2020 doesn’t matter.
This blaming Obama thing is just low hanging fruit ..the truth is that 2012 Obama sleep walks through 2016 and 2024 Trump …2008 Obama might break an electoral college record . His only problem is that he’s too good at being a politician and the coalition he put together is unattainable for 99% of politicians
Democrats didn’t lose the youth vote bc of Obama ..they lost the youth vote because of 8 years of the party trottting out bullshyt
What did he do, he brought a bunch of people out and did nothing with that political capital. His signature policy was still a corporate giveaway, after doing bailouts.Exactly,he handed them the black vote and youth vote on a silver platter for the next 30 years if they had handled it right. But as soon as Obamad term ended,the old guard jumped in position to try to ride his wave.
This is squarely on the Democrats and Hillary. Not just for her weaseling her way into that position despite Bernie clearly having the juice at the moment. But on top of that, shes the one who made it her strategy to elevate Trump thinking he was the easiest lick
Now you got one of the dumbest presidents in history looking like arguably a goat historically speaking. You dont have to like him,but what other president has pulled off what he has against what shoulr be impossible odds
Just saw this shared this other day, Obama was a covert opp for real, buddy really hoodwinked folks. We know he did sht for blk Americans but he also had power to help stabilize Africans or at least facilitate growth which would be the start of repairing our image globally Woud also give us more leverage in the west. Instead buddy co opted with the cia to destroy the bigger countries in africa even further and sabotage the leaders instead so they end up not competing with the usa in the future ala china.
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
That should raise your antennas, not impress you. But hey, he's got brown skin so all skepticism is out the door. Obama was killing black folks by the masses in Africa. Drones everywhere. All in the name of white supremacy.
Roger king
Superstar
Raise attenas in what way? Its not even been half a week since the election and the right wing nonsense and conspiracy theories are already in full force
ReturnOfJudah
Veteran
He's not known as the first "gay president" for nothing. Bruh got into office and started passing gay laws, bailing out corporations, and bombing black folks by the masses or droning them. The fact that i gotta tell you all of this says a lot
