exactly!! you basically have to demonstrate how much you hate yourself and the Black community to get signed.
We need more black thinkers and less entertainers
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exactly!! you basically have to demonstrate how much you hate yourself and the Black community to get signed.
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People can't be both?
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Umm, we've had a program like that here for over 30 years. I was a part of it when I was in High School.....
http://www.pace-monmouth.org/about/overview.aspx
http://www.pace-monmouth.org/about/overview.aspx
I was recently asked to volunteer my services, but I can't due to school/work scheduling.
They aren't though. I can't think of anyone mainstream who fits this paradigm. Closest we get to consciousness is shyt like "Trayvon Martin Im never missin my target".
I dont see a conscious wave resurging either. nikkas aint trying to hear that shyt (even tho they really need to). This generation is complacent and comfy as fukk. U look at the social/living conditions of the childhood of someone like KRS-1 vs pretty much any mainstream artist today, its pretty obvious to see why there is such a gulf in substance/passion/artistry. The hood is still kind of rough, but u dont have a whole borough burning up. And the places that are fukked up (i.e. Camden) don't have the cultures of music and creativity that places like 80s NYC, 90s LA, 00s ATL etc have. Plus people are kind of tired of hearing the same hood stories over and over and over again. Plus a lot of the problems we are facing are very nuanced. They aren't as straightforward as the shyt dudes like KRS and NWA were rapping about. But I dont think rappers have the understanding or creativity to rap abotu them effectively.
To keep it 100% funky I think rap music as an artform, culture and instrument of social change has just run its course. Also I think we have completely abandoned the idea of celebrating real black excellence. Jay raps that shyt but then brags about basically being cool by white hipster standards. Thats prob another thread though.
Nah, I think it can happen but like I said it takes a real talented individual. It's kinda why I brought up "Gangsta" rap because for one thing it don't matter how mutilated the game gets it's always the streets that it has to cater to and its still youths in the streets livin fukked up and struggling. "Gangsta" rappers are prolly the only way we'll see a paradigm shift, but they've got to be thoughtful enough to have a message in their music but still normalized enough to where the ghetto youth doesn't feel like their being preached to and the suburban kid can understand the real shyt being said.
To be, there just needs to be a total separation between Hip Hop culture in its more true sense and let the lost souls have the mainstream version and call it Pop Hop or some shyt like that. An issue of importance not just for Hip Hop or culture but just for black people in general is the power to define things. Right now, and for a long time now, things have always been defined by white perception because the goal has been to "get inside the box" after the culture is thriving outside of the box. There's never a thought to simply create your own box like Malcolm or Garvey would've suggested. The paradigm shift has to be 100% organic and independent of the mainstream fukkery, consider it like a grassroots movement of sorts. I think there's still a huge audience out there that want to hear that kind of soulful shyt, but like you said the message has to be more nuanced and I've heard few rappers have that nuanced message it just needs its own movement and unity within it. This idea of changing the mainstream from the inside is stupid, its our culture so we have no business conforming to fit their standards when we created our standards. But again, this goes back to defining things. The people that create the culture don't define shyt when they oppressed, their overseer does that.
nikkaz is realizing that its 2014 and they don't gotta play that industry game, that's why I'm proud of cats like Nipsey and Gibbs because they see it for what it is and are intelligent enough and credible enough to reach the youth and help change this bullshyt around.
one of the godfathers of gangsta rap dope music should be reagan. he must be really proud listing to the current music today.
the people are completely out of touch on the teachings of mlk and malcolm x and headed for destruction and extinction.
Just listened to YG's new album after I finished reading Michelle Alexander's The New Jim Crow. 
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Superstar
Obama
Obama
Vernon Jordan
Neil DeGrasse
Michelle Obama
Melissa Harris Perry.
Black people are just like any social group. We have black thinkers. Black people are moving forward everyday.
Obama
Vernon Jordan
Neil DeGrasse
Michelle Obama
Melissa Harris Perry.
Black people are just like any social group. We have black thinkers. Black people are moving forward everyday.
Damn, I'm glad I listen to rappers like Boosie instead of some fukk named YG. lol, usually after I finish reading books like that tho I play some extra righteous roots reggae or some jazz.
We don't need less entertainers. We need our entertainers to own their entertainment.
Would more Black thinkers be nice, sure? Is it at the top of the list of needs in the Black community? No. We needs more people who do, people who create small businesses, more self-love, more children taking school serious, teaching our kids financial literacy, sending our kids to trade schools before college, less destructive culture (which ties into owning the entertainment). You don't have to be an academic to do any of these things.
Would more Black thinkers be nice, sure? Is it at the top of the list of needs in the Black community? No. We needs more people who do, people who create small businesses, more self-love, more children taking school serious, teaching our kids financial literacy, sending our kids to trade schools before college, less destructive culture (which ties into owning the entertainment). You don't have to be an academic to do any of these things.
yeah last Jay album I really fukked wit, was American Gangster....Can't ride with homie making songs about Tom Ford
the way the corporate world is set up black ppl aren't allowed to. they will do anything from destroying to buying out black entertainment to dictate how it's presented to black ppl.
BET dude and russell don't agree with how their companies are run now. but they had a choice of either selling for hundreds of millions or company gets destroyed and become worthless.
for jay-z to make more money he has to appear as european as possible.. thats with anyone really..yeah last Jay album I really fukked wit, was American Gangster....Can't ride with homie making songs about Tom Ford
could've at least made a song in honor of ozwald boateng...
or kanye west 
This point just cannot be stressed enough. Really your whole post is on point. Entertainment is culture, culture develops and ultimately defines your community or society. If you don't have control over either then what's happening right now is exactly what'll happen. I live around black professionals and see educated brothas and sistas all the time, but their talents aren't going into industries rooted in the black community they're goin into shyt outside of the community. That's why it's depressing to see what's become of HBCUs, they still serve a purpose but people want to run away to live in another man's house instead of building his own institutions.
