We HAVE to be in a golden age of TV right now

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Be under the age of 22 and judge 65 years of television programming based off the last 5 years brehs......

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Yall make this shyt too easy.......:whew:
the problem with your theory is old shows are hindered by technology and censorship

back in the day, a married couple, both white, couldn't even be seen sleeping, fully clothed, in the same bed

nowadays you can say fukk after 12, blow people's brains out, have full on fukk scenes, and do it as wild and gritty as your mind can imagine

imagine them trying to game of thrones (or the hobbit) back in 1945 :mjlol:
 
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the problem with your theory is old shows are hindered by technology and censorship

back in the day, a married couple, both white, couldn't even be seen sleeping, fully clothed, in the same bed

nowadays you can say fukk after 12, blow people's brains out, have full on fukk scenes, and do it as wild and gritty as your mind can imagine

imagine them trying to game of thrones (or the hobbit) back in 1945 :mjlol:

Debauchery and violence does not = great story telling my friend......

Empire strikes back is probably the most well beloved entry of a 6-7 movie franchise, and it was made in 1980.....

Same for Star Trek,,,,,and these joints have grossed 100's of billions......


CGI,,,,gratuitous nudity and sex, and mindless violence compensates for a lack of story.....to the def, dumb, and blind........:wordtowutang:
 

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yea oz was first sepinwall credits it in his tv book..just people tend to forget it because of sopranos.
all the best writers are in television thats why 98 % of movies suck
 

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Nikkas actin like the A-team, Knight Rider, Dukes of Hazzard or Macgayver aint shyt :stopitslime:
 

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Debauchery and violence does not = great story telling my friend......

Empire strikes back is probably the most well beloved entry of a 6-7 movie franchise, and it was made in 1980.....

Same for Star Trek,,,,,and these joints have grossed 100's of billions......


CGI,,,,gratuitous nudity and sex, and mindless violence compensates for a lack of story.....to the def, dumb, and blind........:wordtowutang:
no what i'm saying is the absence of tools leads to parts of the story that you can't tell... movies have always been ahead of the curve.. yea star wars is the best of the series.. but it ain't no damn godfather

and we talking tv... you don't get an 6 hour movie, broken into 3 parts.. movies are more timeless than old tv shows

you couldn't even have a martin when good times was out.. you couldn't have a breaking bad in the 30s.. you couldn't have a boardwalk empire even when godfather was out.. you couldn't do 99% of the shyt you could do now cause of TV

movies are more on par... we are definitely not in the golden age of movies at all
 
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Debauchery and violence does not = great story telling my friend......

Empire strikes back is probably the most well beloved entry of a 6-7 movie franchise, and it was made in 1980.....

Same for Star Trek,,,,,and these joints have grossed 100's of billions......

CGI,,,,gratuitous nudity and sex, and mindless violence compensates for a lack of story.....to the def, dumb, and blind........:wordtowutang:

Breh you're going off the deep end here.

At one end of the spectrum is what @Venem was talking about, with extreme censorship limiting the possibilities of story telling....you went to the exact opposite end of the spectrum, talking about "debauchery and violence".

The fact of the matter is the more options you have, the better you can tell your story. And the options were extremely limited back in the day.

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no what i'm saying is the absence of tools leads to parts of the story that you can't tell... movies have always been ahead of the curve.. yea star wars is the best of the series.. but it ain't no damn godfather

and we talking tv... you don't get an 6 hour movie, broken into 3 parts.. movies are more timeless than old tv shows

you couldn't even have a martin when good times was out.. you couldn't have a breaking bad in the 30s.. you couldn't have a boardwalk empire even when godfather was out.. you couldn't do 99% of the shyt you could do now cause of TV

movies are more on par... we are definitely not in the golden age of movies at all

I agree with all of this except the movie part. If we're talking about American cinema definitely. Foreign cinema has been shytting on U.S for the last 10-15 years, in virtually every genre, from horror to drama to action.

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Didn't lost and 24 start the whole continuing storyline on regular tv
 

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I think we WERE in a golden age of TV during the 2000s both on Cable and TV but I think we're actually coming out of that, with networks trying to recapture that era (like how everyone was trying to replicate Lost or people wondering which HBO show could be compared to Wire and Sopranos)

Even with Netflix changing the game in terms of viewership, the actual programming itself is mixed (seems like HoC was seen as not being great by season 2, OITNB s getting love). Even foreign shows have their flaws (Sherlock, Misfits by the time they got past first series were not that great). People are starting to find cracks and flaws in HBO and Showtime shows that are normally hearlded (You feel a GoT backlash this year, Homeland hasnt been the same since the middle of season 2, and Boardwalk Empire while decent never seem to meet people's lofty expectations elsewhere, Walking Dead's last season kinda had people split on it)

So actually it feels like right everyone is on the bandwagon for tv (networks, writers, movie actors) but that inital creative jolt is now regressing to the mean of television, hence why even some of these shows are trying to come back from that era (Heroes, 24)

To compare TV to Hip Hop, it was like 1999-2011 was 1992-1996 in Hip Hop and right now we're kind of in the 97-2000 territory, where it aint wack, there's still some gems but not necessairly stuff that'll blow you over by before, and we might be trending towards going back to the generic stuff of the 80s and 90s (definetly on network TV like NBC, ABC trying to aim high with high concept fantasy or remake stuff)

I think that also has to do with the idea that in a on demand multi choice era we keep thinking everything is must see TV or we have to binge watch and catch up to certain shows so we can be in the In crowd to talk about and really not everything
 
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Modern TV is not great to me. I have never been completely satisfied with this so called "golden age".

Too many flaws/mistakes and usually after the first three seasons of majority of these shows, they usually FALL OFF real hard and never recover. I mean complete burn-outs and they always become a turn-off.

Modern movies don't excite me because they just recycle the same actors, storylines all over again just to make more money.

Books will always be the best, painting imaginative pictures/scenes in my head will always surpass the video medium, I have enjoyed lit way more than movies/tv.
 

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Boardwalk Empire, Arrow, Bates Motel, another 24 season has return, and Penny Dreadful looks it has potential of being the GOAT:ahh:
 
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