We are the Joneses - The Official Texas Longhorns Athletics Thread
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this is a make or break year for Watson.
brehs yall see all these louisville players getting drafted...i hope these dumb ass hick fans in our fanbase notice while they fall asleep waiting for the next longhorn to get their name called. :spit:
so kendell jones is about to commit to bama. @satam55 @backinmyday @macpat @-o3- da hell is going on?
Except for last year, I usually stop paying attention to UT & College Football after the Spring Game and until the season starts. So I haven't even been paying attention.
Not in love with the kids tape, has the physical attributes but is going to need the work ethic and IQ to be coached up. I think Strong can turn him into a beast though. Parents want him close to home, he feel in love with Bama on his visit, let's hope that love wanes as time passes.
I'll say recruiting is more boring under Strong than it was under map. Maybe things will pick up once we host the various camps this summer.
he's a bama silent. he's announcing to them next week at his high school's spring game.
he's visited UT a dozen times and has a great relationship with Charlie Strong. for him to switch like this after one visit to Bama is kinda disturbing.
reading some of these old humidor reports from IT
gadamn I actually believe they know people in the program, a few predictions came true and shyt
also last season in training camp they knew the season was going to be a damn wash, the offense was already known to be struggling more than a alleyway hooker
I'm feeling 7-9 wins this upcoming season assuming the team jells
gadamn I actually believe they know people in the program, a few predictions came true and shyt
also last season in training camp they knew the season was going to be a damn wash, the offense was already known to be struggling more than a alleyway hooker
I'm feeling 7-9 wins this upcoming season assuming the team jells
big cigar over here making up bullshyt
By: Jesus Shuttlesworth
In this edition of Mondays in the Humidor with the Big Cigar we’ve got a variety of information especially in light of the time of year. We’ll dabble a bit in recruiting as a Cigar with ties to a prospect who’s almost impossible to get ahold of, drops us a dime. Our sources inside the program have also provided some intel on voluntary (read mandatory) 7-on-7 work this past week. Warning, some names may surprise. We’ll have some scouting information on a possible commit to Shaka Smart and the analog given may have the less discriminating hoops fan doing a double face-palm, while those with a bit more critical thinking ability as it applies to the game of basketball will see the value Smart is adding. The Big Cigar also has some fundraising/facility information you won’t want to miss…well maybe. As always, it’s a mix of good and bad inside the Humidor.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Let’s start things out with a bit of a facility update. Obviously Steve Patterson doesn’t have the luxury of spitting out platitudes like “We Are the Joneses” like his predecessor. He has to produce actual results in the facilities arms race. It sounds like fundraising on that front has already commenced at least as far as football is concerned. What are the early returns?
Big Cigar: Not good. Early on Steve was described as aloof and a bit of a “tin ear” but it seemed like he was starting to make an effort with a bit of cajoling and counseling from his inner circle to be more interactive with the big donors. I’m sad to report that Patterson seems to be reverting to the mean if you will — at least his mean. He’s going back to that professional sports mindset and it’s pissing a lot of people off.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: So this is hurting fundraising?
Big Cigar: Yeah. I was sort of wait-and-see on Patterson but it seems he’s yet to listen to the feedback from the guys he’s passing the hat to, and the fundraising numbers are going to suffer as a result.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: What exactly is the beef?
Big Cigar: He’s gotten a lot of feedback and requests to make DKR less of a professional sports, money making machine, and instead focus on having a more college football type atmosphere like you would in the SEC and other traditional powerhouses. Squeezing walk-ons for their meal money isn’t what we’re about so he’s been told numerous times that the checks will come in if we need the money, just make it a traditional college football venue. He gave us lip service about that and this push to play a game in Mexico City seems to be the last straw for some. It’s ridiculous really, he’s turning his back on the true fan base to squeeze a marginal nickel or two because he’s married to his MBA degree and doesn’t see the bigger picture.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Isn’t part of his job description to make money for the athletic department?
Big Cigar: Sure, if he’s making the money in a vacuum. The fact of the matter is that he’s pissing off the donor class and a lot of fans I suspect, and it’s going to hurt with fundraising. In fact, I’m trying to figure out where else I can spend 100k a year and have a little more fun. Seriously, I’m about done with it all and I’m not the only one who feels that way. He better win, because his margin of error gets smaller the longer it takes him to read the tea leaves.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: So how many others like you are out there looking to invest their entertainment resources elsewhere?
Big Cigar: Plenty.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: And this will hurt the University in raising enough money to compete with other Universities in the facilities wars?
Big Cigar: It sure will. I mean, they’ll find the money somewhere, but he’s losing the easy dollars by simply ignoring the boosters. He’d better win or things will go south in a hurry.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Thanks for the good news.
Big Cigar: You bet.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: In recruiting, we received some intel from an unlikely source about a Texas prospect who has made it unlikely you’ll ever get any tangible information on his recruitment. Texas coaches included evidently. Reading the various sites you'll notice there isn't much information on junior Brandon Bowen from Byron Nelson high school in Trophy Club, Texas. It turns out we have a mutual acquaintance with somebody close to the talented athlete. This may not be news to you but it is to us.
Said the source: "Bowen's father, Ryan, was drafted by the Astros in the 1st round of the 1986 MLB draft. He didn't make a big splash but he did make it to the show for a handful of seasons with the Astros and the Marlins. Though athletic ability runs wild in the family, academics are way more important. The family is much more proud of the engineers in the family than the athletes. Academics will play a huge part in where Brandon goes. The problem with Texas is they're not really recruiting him. He was just in Austin and nobody gave them word to stop by and visit with the coaches. So it appears Texas isn't interested at this point which is too bad because, as I said, academics are important and Texas is good there. Right now the family seems to like Baylor and TCU but I feel like the school to watch is USC, assuming they'll offer, where his dad would have played had he not been drafted so high. Brandon is a friendly, smart kid, but he's not into interviews and notoriety. He'll answer questions that are asked but he's not going to go out of his way to get attention."
Bowen, at 6-foot-4, 215 pounds, just won the 6A state high jump at 6-7 and just missed 6-9 after clearing it previously. That's not a common feat.
Since Texas often reads the boards hopefully they find this useful. If they have any intentions of courting him they need to pick up the pace, if not, you'll know the interest was unbalanced and not a clear Charlie Strong "miss".
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Switching gears to voluntary 7-on-7 workouts, our source close to the program had some tidbits on what’s going on. Currently there aren’t any mandatory weight room sessions or workouts. The individuals are asked to keep up with their conditioning, make that expected, just don’t tell the NCAA. We’re kidding, John Bianco. Here are the tidbits…
In 7-on-7 work there really isn’t much of a change as far as starters go with the exception of a couple of spots. It’s still the usual suspects in the secondary with Thomas, Haines, Hall, Bonney, and Echols. Antwuan Davis still looms large. At linebacker, the two best players seem to be Malik Jefferson and Ed Freeman. Both can take away passing lanes with their length, and both have more lateral quickness than their counterparts.
On offense, Armanti Foreman has been a handful and has made the most plays in the passing sessions we’re told. He’s been a huge hit replacing Marcus Johnson as a starter as Johnson recovers from the meniscus injury.
At quarterback, Jerrod Heard continues to ride the momentum he created in the last week of spring ball and even in the Spring game. Our source says that although Swoopes has more experience and seems to be the slight leader in the battle, his play this last week showed that he has the propensity to continue to make the same mistakes over and over. Heard has done a better job correcting his mistakes and now the two are almost neck and neck at least in this person’s eyes.
As for the big uglies, the most active defensive linemen, or those with the best attendance to their workouts are Hassan Ridgeway, Poona Ford, Paul Boyette, and Shiro Davis. Luckily, these are your likely starters.
Finally, we’ll put a bow on things by discussing the imminent commitment to Shaka Smart's rolling ball of butcher knives, Tevin Mack. The 6-foot-7 small forward out of Columbia, South Carolina will almost assuredly pick Texas tomorrow and our scout close to the program tells us this definitely good news even if you don’t like his analogy. Here are his thoughts, and keep in mind he’s not a Texas fan per se.
“I see a lot of Jordan Hamilton in Tevin’s game. Like Hamilton, Tevin is a pure shooter whether it’s off the catch or the dribble. He can score the ball in a number of ways most of which are based off the threat of his deep range. Like Hamilton he’s not the quickest or most athletic guy out there, but he’s sneaky about getting to the basket because his opponents have to contest out past the arc. Also like Hamilton, Mack has a plus midrange game which in the college game is worth its weight in gold because coaches are teaching more and more to entice guys to take midrange jumpers. You can’t really do that with Mack.
Where their skills are different is in the overall floor game. Hamilton was there to shoot the basketball, and didn’t really give a second thought to making plays for teammates. That’s not the case with Mack. He’ll distribute the ball when the play presents itself. He’s always looking for the open man and will defer when the time is right. Mack is also a better teammate from what I’ve heard on the AAU circuit. But that’s not rocket surgery.
Overall, I feel UT and Smart are getting exactly what they need for the system. A kid that can pass, dribble, and shoot at the three spot is sure to create matchup problems against some of the more plodding front courts in the Big 12. The good news here is that if Mack can get a little stronger, his length allows him to guard some of the bigger forwards in the conference which will create all kinds of matchup issues on the other end.
Finally, Mack’s ability to shoot the ball from deep will open things up for Shaka’s guards, especially when you consider Mack’s ability to be a playmaker from the small forward position. He just provides a lot of options and is perfect for the Texas system.”
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Great stuff. Thanks.
Big Cigar: You bet.
how can they be doing 7 on 7 if they have been home since last week
but some players were still on campus
In this edition of Mondays in the Humidor with the Big Cigar we’ve got a variety of information especially in light of the time of year. We’ll dabble a bit in recruiting as a Cigar with ties to a prospect who’s almost impossible to get ahold of, drops us a dime. Our sources inside the program have also provided some intel on voluntary (read mandatory) 7-on-7 work this past week. Warning, some names may surprise. We’ll have some scouting information on a possible commit to Shaka Smart and the analog given may have the less discriminating hoops fan doing a double face-palm, while those with a bit more critical thinking ability as it applies to the game of basketball will see the value Smart is adding. The Big Cigar also has some fundraising/facility information you won’t want to miss…well maybe. As always, it’s a mix of good and bad inside the Humidor.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Let’s start things out with a bit of a facility update. Obviously Steve Patterson doesn’t have the luxury of spitting out platitudes like “We Are the Joneses” like his predecessor. He has to produce actual results in the facilities arms race. It sounds like fundraising on that front has already commenced at least as far as football is concerned. What are the early returns?
Big Cigar: Not good. Early on Steve was described as aloof and a bit of a “tin ear” but it seemed like he was starting to make an effort with a bit of cajoling and counseling from his inner circle to be more interactive with the big donors. I’m sad to report that Patterson seems to be reverting to the mean if you will — at least his mean. He’s going back to that professional sports mindset and it’s pissing a lot of people off.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: So this is hurting fundraising?
Big Cigar: Yeah. I was sort of wait-and-see on Patterson but it seems he’s yet to listen to the feedback from the guys he’s passing the hat to, and the fundraising numbers are going to suffer as a result.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: What exactly is the beef?
Big Cigar: He’s gotten a lot of feedback and requests to make DKR less of a professional sports, money making machine, and instead focus on having a more college football type atmosphere like you would in the SEC and other traditional powerhouses. Squeezing walk-ons for their meal money isn’t what we’re about so he’s been told numerous times that the checks will come in if we need the money, just make it a traditional college football venue. He gave us lip service about that and this push to play a game in Mexico City seems to be the last straw for some. It’s ridiculous really, he’s turning his back on the true fan base to squeeze a marginal nickel or two because he’s married to his MBA degree and doesn’t see the bigger picture.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Isn’t part of his job description to make money for the athletic department?
Big Cigar: Sure, if he’s making the money in a vacuum. The fact of the matter is that he’s pissing off the donor class and a lot of fans I suspect, and it’s going to hurt with fundraising. In fact, I’m trying to figure out where else I can spend 100k a year and have a little more fun. Seriously, I’m about done with it all and I’m not the only one who feels that way. He better win, because his margin of error gets smaller the longer it takes him to read the tea leaves.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: So how many others like you are out there looking to invest their entertainment resources elsewhere?
Big Cigar: Plenty.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: And this will hurt the University in raising enough money to compete with other Universities in the facilities wars?
Big Cigar: It sure will. I mean, they’ll find the money somewhere, but he’s losing the easy dollars by simply ignoring the boosters. He’d better win or things will go south in a hurry.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Thanks for the good news.
Big Cigar: You bet.
Jesus Shuttlesworth: In recruiting, we received some intel from an unlikely source about a Texas prospect who has made it unlikely you’ll ever get any tangible information on his recruitment. Texas coaches included evidently. Reading the various sites you'll notice there isn't much information on junior Brandon Bowen from Byron Nelson high school in Trophy Club, Texas. It turns out we have a mutual acquaintance with somebody close to the talented athlete. This may not be news to you but it is to us.
Said the source: "Bowen's father, Ryan, was drafted by the Astros in the 1st round of the 1986 MLB draft. He didn't make a big splash but he did make it to the show for a handful of seasons with the Astros and the Marlins. Though athletic ability runs wild in the family, academics are way more important. The family is much more proud of the engineers in the family than the athletes. Academics will play a huge part in where Brandon goes. The problem with Texas is they're not really recruiting him. He was just in Austin and nobody gave them word to stop by and visit with the coaches. So it appears Texas isn't interested at this point which is too bad because, as I said, academics are important and Texas is good there. Right now the family seems to like Baylor and TCU but I feel like the school to watch is USC, assuming they'll offer, where his dad would have played had he not been drafted so high. Brandon is a friendly, smart kid, but he's not into interviews and notoriety. He'll answer questions that are asked but he's not going to go out of his way to get attention."
Bowen, at 6-foot-4, 215 pounds, just won the 6A state high jump at 6-7 and just missed 6-9 after clearing it previously. That's not a common feat.
Since Texas often reads the boards hopefully they find this useful. If they have any intentions of courting him they need to pick up the pace, if not, you'll know the interest was unbalanced and not a clear Charlie Strong "miss".
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Switching gears to voluntary 7-on-7 workouts, our source close to the program had some tidbits on what’s going on. Currently there aren’t any mandatory weight room sessions or workouts. The individuals are asked to keep up with their conditioning, make that expected, just don’t tell the NCAA. We’re kidding, John Bianco. Here are the tidbits…
In 7-on-7 work there really isn’t much of a change as far as starters go with the exception of a couple of spots. It’s still the usual suspects in the secondary with Thomas, Haines, Hall, Bonney, and Echols. Antwuan Davis still looms large. At linebacker, the two best players seem to be Malik Jefferson and Ed Freeman. Both can take away passing lanes with their length, and both have more lateral quickness than their counterparts.
On offense, Armanti Foreman has been a handful and has made the most plays in the passing sessions we’re told. He’s been a huge hit replacing Marcus Johnson as a starter as Johnson recovers from the meniscus injury.
At quarterback, Jerrod Heard continues to ride the momentum he created in the last week of spring ball and even in the Spring game. Our source says that although Swoopes has more experience and seems to be the slight leader in the battle, his play this last week showed that he has the propensity to continue to make the same mistakes over and over. Heard has done a better job correcting his mistakes and now the two are almost neck and neck at least in this person’s eyes.
As for the big uglies, the most active defensive linemen, or those with the best attendance to their workouts are Hassan Ridgeway, Poona Ford, Paul Boyette, and Shiro Davis. Luckily, these are your likely starters.
Finally, we’ll put a bow on things by discussing the imminent commitment to Shaka Smart's rolling ball of butcher knives, Tevin Mack. The 6-foot-7 small forward out of Columbia, South Carolina will almost assuredly pick Texas tomorrow and our scout close to the program tells us this definitely good news even if you don’t like his analogy. Here are his thoughts, and keep in mind he’s not a Texas fan per se.
“I see a lot of Jordan Hamilton in Tevin’s game. Like Hamilton, Tevin is a pure shooter whether it’s off the catch or the dribble. He can score the ball in a number of ways most of which are based off the threat of his deep range. Like Hamilton he’s not the quickest or most athletic guy out there, but he’s sneaky about getting to the basket because his opponents have to contest out past the arc. Also like Hamilton, Mack has a plus midrange game which in the college game is worth its weight in gold because coaches are teaching more and more to entice guys to take midrange jumpers. You can’t really do that with Mack.
Where their skills are different is in the overall floor game. Hamilton was there to shoot the basketball, and didn’t really give a second thought to making plays for teammates. That’s not the case with Mack. He’ll distribute the ball when the play presents itself. He’s always looking for the open man and will defer when the time is right. Mack is also a better teammate from what I’ve heard on the AAU circuit. But that’s not rocket surgery.
Overall, I feel UT and Smart are getting exactly what they need for the system. A kid that can pass, dribble, and shoot at the three spot is sure to create matchup problems against some of the more plodding front courts in the Big 12. The good news here is that if Mack can get a little stronger, his length allows him to guard some of the bigger forwards in the conference which will create all kinds of matchup issues on the other end.
Finally, Mack’s ability to shoot the ball from deep will open things up for Shaka’s guards, especially when you consider Mack’s ability to be a playmaker from the small forward position. He just provides a lot of options and is perfect for the Texas system.”
Jesus Shuttlesworth: Great stuff. Thanks.
Big Cigar: You bet.
how can they be doing 7 on 7 if they have been home since last week
but some players were still on campus
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Shaka Smart hit the lotto with his wife. She isn't a ten, I'd go 7-8 but the credentials are off the charts.
Shaka Smart hit the lotto with his wife. She isn't a ten, I'd go 7-8 but the credentials are off the charts.
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Shaka Smart hit the lotto with his wife. She isn't a ten, I'd go 7-8 but the credentials are off the charts.
she is freakin adorable....dont mess it up shaka.
Brehs this freshman class is going to be special 