We are living in a world of illusion

[bigdaddy88]

perhaps the real illusion is the "veil"


youve made this same post atleast 3 times in the same thread

if you think the unseen is interesting but dont understand how religion(s) are intertwined in that, thats on you

there is a veil however, i dont deny materialism either. I just believe that there is more out there, the world of the noumena or the world of the gods/celestial realm. which in our modern definitions i guess u can say a another dimension so to speak.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

I love the Matrix because of its philosophical themes

One of them is the idea that you're living in a dreamworld. A world of Illusion.

People take this "literally" (from the POV of the movie characters) and wonder if we are living in a computer simulation. We're not.

But we are living in a world of illusion. And just like in the Matrix the truth is not very far from where you are now, but it will fukc your head up.

Get out of here now if you are a Blue Pill Breh. Enjoy your digital steak without knowing the real.

Here are a few layers of programming you need to free your head from

Language:

the natural human is born without it. It's very handy, but is totally imaginary and very misleading if you think language is real.

Try to look at a billboard without reading the words. Impossible.

Simply put. A label can oversimplify a real object. If you label a person a terrorist, you've closed the door on him being a hero, a freedom fighter, a martyr. Depending on what side you're on, one side's thief is another side's Robin Hood. Any one object is really countless parts that could be considered their own object. Or. Any single object is really a part of larger and larger "wholes". A countless number.

Numbers and words are completely imaginary, but very useful to exchange important information. And now most words carry unimportant info and misinformation.

Dogma:

Lots of people BELIEVE in G-d. The only reason why is they were taught to by their parents. If you never heard of any religion before you were like 20 years old you would laugh your ass off at the things they portray as truth. I even know better than most of it, yet I can't shake the feeling of an angry G-d ready to destroy me. I think G-d is real but its not a humanoid in the sky. Its the essence and.consciousness of the entirety of existence. The One that everything else adds up to.

Myths are fine, but really examine The things people tell you. If it doesn't make sense then it was likely added for the purpose of manipulating the congregation and collecting money, not true wisdom

Optimism/Pessimism

Your expectation is what really controls how you feel. If you expect to be treated as an important person, but you get treated like regular people - you may be upset. If you already know you're not special then you're fine with normal.

To approach every situation as if its gonna go your way - optimism - is just setting yourself up for disappointment. A significant percent of the time.

Same with pessimism. You end up being surprised.when it works out, but.you spend the whole day before.the interview feeling terrible. So you're still adding bad vibes to everyday processes.

Things will neither always go well nor always go bad. So the permagrin or permafrown is just extra. You should know the odds and try your best but don't decide what the outcome will be before you see the outcome

You've been studying Buddhism lately, eh?

 

[Ghost Utmost]

You've been studying Buddhism lately, eh?

Did my main study on it in the 90s.

Haven't read much recently, but then again not much is apt to change in that subject

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

Did my main study on it in the 90s.

Haven't read much recently, but then again not much is apt to change in that subject

I didn't see that the original post was from January. I thought you made it today.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

I didn't see that the original post was from January. I thought you made it today.

Jan 2021

 

[Diunx]

What a sensible insecure lord.

 

[MMS]

What a sensible insecure lord.

de·ri·sion
/dəˈriZHən/
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noun
contemptuous ridicule or mockery.
"my stories were greeted with derision and disbelief"

he knows you better than you know you

 

[MMS]

there is a veil however, i dont deny materialism either. I just believe that there is more out there, the world of the noumena or the world of the gods/celestial realm. which in our modern definitions i guess u can say a another dimension so to speak.

i believe God created the heaven and the earth, so these realms you speak of i know not. And if they are and are also intangible, then it would be safe to say it wasnt meant for us to dwell there, as where God is we also dwell.

The heaven as I've stated in this thread and others represents the physical world, as before the heaven existed...the earth was without form and dark.

Gnostics love to think highly of themselves but they are like lemmings going off into a trap of over understanding.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

 

[MMS]

this is a late reply but I feel it warrants a response

to me the ultimate aim of this "thought process", rather than a "daemon", is to further the misconception of the line "made in the image of God, male and female created he them"

You can look at that statement in two ways, either look at yourself and say "God made me to look like him" or "In order to look like God, i should be made in the image of this page"

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the question that should be asked is if God felt the need to send a law to people, it means he saw them as lawless. That also implies that the need for the law was established before it was even sent.

You need two fingers and your thumb to stabilize to use a mouse

Sabazios - Wikipedia

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[Dave24]

Subbed to watch later

@Marks who is Ahriman?

@bigdaddy88

@IVS

 

[MMS]

Subbed to watch later

@Marks who is Ahriman?

@bigdaddy88

@IVS

it is a character from zoroastrianism similar to the idea of "Iblis" "Hasatan" and The Devil etc etc

The word does not occur in the Book of Genesis, which mentions only a talking serpent and does not identify the serpent with any supernatural entity.[15] The first occurrence of the word "satan" in the Hebrew Bible in reference to a supernatural figure comes from Numbers 22:22,[7] which describes the Angel of Yahweh confronting Balaam on his donkey:[6] "Balaam's departure aroused the wrath of Elohim, and the Angel of Yahweh stood in the road as a satan against him."[7] In 2 Samuel 24, Yahweh sends the "Angel of Yahweh" to inflict a plague against Israel for three days, killing 70,000 people as punishment for David having taken a census without his approval.[16] 1 Chronicles 21:1 repeats this story,[16] but replaces the "Angel of Yahweh" with an entity referred to as "a satan".[16]

the real serpent is our tongues as ive said before. The imagined idea of a being coming to accuse you is a self-deception and a scapegoat for the real truth (each person originates their thoughts and are their stewards...)

Ahriman - Wikipedia

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destruction is a false duality embraced by heathen who think because nature eats itself we should too. Its a circular fallacy that is largely perpetuated by women and disastrously picked up by men!

Gen 3:16

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

sorrow AND conception. When you compare this thought process to Gen 1 you will see why its different.

Gen 1 implies the earths normal state is dark and formless. This means only with the presence of God is it filled with light and order, if you believe Genesis 1.

 

[MMS]

@Koichos i know you dislike this site but once again this is another opportunity to show how the "symbolic" interpretation can be the more trustworthy interpretation

The amazing name Balaam: meaning and etymology

An indepth look at the meaning and etymology of the awesome name Balaam. We'll discuss the original Hebrew, plus the words and names Balaam is related to, plus the occurences of this name in the Bible.

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Balaam means "To Swallow/Destroy the People"

Balaam (/ˈbeɪlæm/;[1] Hebrew: בִּלְעָם, Standard Bīlʿam Tiberian Bīlʿām) is a diviner in the Torah (Pentateuch) whose story begins in Chapter 22 of the Book of Numbers (Numbers 22). Every ancient reference to Balaam considers him a non-Israelite, a prophet, and the son of Beor.[citation needed] King Balak of Moab offered him money to curse Israel (Numbers 22–24), but Balaam blessed the Israelites instead, as dictated by God. Nevertheless, he is reviled as a "wicked man" in both the Torah and the New Testament (2 Peter 2:15, Jude 1:11, Revelation 2:14). According to the Book of Revelation (Revelation 2:14), Balaam told King Balak how to get the Israelites to commit sin by enticing them with sexual immorality and food sacrificed to idols. The Israelites fell into transgression due to these traps and God sent a deadly plague to them as a result

compare this dialogue to Luke 22 (Judas betrayal)

Now notice "Whose story begins in chapter 22 of the book of numbers"

now also notice the first mention of "Satan" is also ironically in the chapter 22

Numbers 22:20-32

20 And God came unto Balaam at night, and said unto him, If the men come to call thee, rise up, and go with them; but yet the word which I shall say unto thee, that shalt thou do.

21 And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab.

22 And God's anger was kindled because he went: and the angel of the Lord stood in the way for an adversary against him. Now he was riding upon his ass, and his two servants were with him.

23 And the ass saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and the ass turned aside out of the way, and went into the field: and Balaam smote the ass, to turn her into the way.

24 But the angel of the Lord stood in a path of the vineyards, a wall being on this side, and a wall on that side.

25 And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she thrust herself unto the wall, and crushed Balaam's foot against the wall: and he smote her again.

26 And the angel of the Lord went further, and stood in a narrow place, where was no way to turn either to the right hand or to the left.

27 And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam's anger was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff.

28 And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?

29 And Balaam said unto the ass, Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand, for now would I kill thee.

30 And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.

31 Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.

32 And the angel of the Lord said unto him, Wherefore hast thou smitten thine ass these three times? behold, I went out to withstand thee, because thy way is perverse before me:

now even though Moses said to the israelites that "The Egyptians" were dead on the shore...behold here is one right here? This is why I say the pattern copying + misunderstanding of words creative power is beguiling israel despite their confidence in the language that was given to them..

the eloquent peasants "donkey"

I swear to God, if we're not already in hell I'd be honestly surprised

let it rip* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eloquent_Peasant#Story_summary The story begins with a poor peasant, Khun-Anup, traveling to market with his donkeys heavily laden with goods to exchange for supplies for his family. While Khun-Anup was en route, Nemtynakht, a vassal of the high...

www.thecoli.com

Spoiler

To understand the plague from The Book of Numbers:
The name of the book comes from the two censuses taken of the Israelites.

Census - Wikipedia

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A census involves "numbering the people"...which was a practice of Egypt.

 

[Dave24]

@MMS do you read and study the Bible everyday?

 

[MMS]

@MMS do you read and study the Bible everyday?

sometimes but probably not enough