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There are a number of 'names' or 'titles' which the Torah employs to refer to the Creator. In particular, there are two main ones: אֱלֹהִים (which denotes rulership and sovereignty, and is used in a number of different contexts, of which the usage as a title of the Creator is only one) signifies the Creator when He is exercising His attribute of strict justice, while the Four-Lettered Divine Title (vocalized as אֲדֹנָי) signifies His attribute of mercy. This is why He is called אֱלֹהִים—strict justice—throughout the first Hebrew division of B'reshıth (1:1-2:3); however, as soon as Mankind emerges (B'reshıth 2:4), this changes abruptly to ה׳ אֱלֹהִים (read aloud as אֲדֹנָי אֱלֹהִים)—'justice' tempered by 'mercy', with 'mercy' taking precedence—because Mankind, having been intentionally created liable to err and go astray (i.e., sin), cannot exist in an environment based on strict justice alone. The limitations of human language make it necessary for some kind of 'designation' or 'title' to be used to refer to the Creator in the written Scriptures where He features in the narrative, and it is for this purpose alone that the two principle 'names' or 'titles' (*and also several others that occur much less frequently) appear in the text.
You still are not getting it. The group of letters yudh, heʾ, wow, heʾ is ALWAYS pronounced as either אֲדֹנָי or as אֱלֹהִים, or a combination thereof, depending on which set of vowels it is printed with; conversely, the group of letters yudh, heʾ (*yudh pointed with qomass; heʾ pointed with mappiq) is a separate, standalone title which IS indeed pronounced during prayer and public Scriptural readings. The title יָהּ, which occurs only twice in the Torah (see Sh'moth 15:2, 17:16), is used in lyrical or rhythmical fashion throughout the T'na"ch's 24 books; it is either rhyming with another word (as in Sh'moth 15:2) or being used as a doublet among other doublets (Sh'moth 17:16). It is always poetic in nature, thus the majority of its occurrences are found in the book of Tahillim, which is one of the pure poetry books.
In Y'shaʿyohu 12:2, יָהּ is used to rhyme with לִישׁוּעָה. In Sh'moth 17:16, יָהּ is used in a series of two-letter words, even though יָהּ is really more more of a suffix (that is, כֵּסיָהּ), as in שַׁלְהֶבֶתְיָה or יְדִידְיָה or מֶרְחַבְיָה. In Y'shaʿyohu 38, verses 10 through 20 are a prayer hymn with a particular cadence; the consecutive usage of יָהּ in verse 11 (...יָהּ יָהּ...) matches the syllabic flow of a sequence of ~four and then ~seven.
In the first verse of Tahillim's last chapter, there is a הַלְלוּ יָהּ that immediately precedes a הַלְלוּ אֵל—i.e., neoplasm. It is interesting to note that we recite Tahillim through ten expressions of 'praise': nissu'ah, niggun, mas'kil, miz'mor, shir, ʾash'rei, tahilloh, tafilloh, hodhoʿoh, and hal'luyohh. Of course, the greatest of them all is hal'luyohh because of its inclusion of one of the Creator's titles and praise at once.
The Torah makes pronouncing the Four-Lettered Divine Title an explicit capital offence (Wayyiq'roʾ 24:16).
The word used in Wayyiq'roʾ 24:11 is וַיִּקֹּב wayyiqqov, which is derived from the verb-stem נקב noqav. This same verb also occurs elsewhere in the Tanach, for example in B'reshıth 30:28, B'midhbor 1:17 and Y'shaʿyohu 62:2.
Here we have three verbs (נָקְבָה, נִקְּבוּ, יִקֳּבֶנּוּ noq'voh, niqq'vu, yiqqovannu) that are all conjugations of the verb-stem נקב noqav. It is clear from the context of the above three verses that the verb-stem נקב noqav is associated with saying, stating or declaring something aloud, and וַיִּקֹּב wayyiqqov in Wayyiq'roʾ 24:11 together with וְנֹקֵב, בְּנָקְבוֹ w'noqev, b'noq'vo in Wayyiq'roʾ 24:16 all have the same meaning, too.
Please read carefully the first three paragraphs of post#635 again: The Sacred Name does not have any vowels of its own, which is one of the reasons why we do not ever pronounce that 'name'—for it is impossible to pronounce a group of consonants without any vowels. In some printed T'na"chim, those instances of the Sacred Name that are intended to be read as אֲדֹנָי appear with no vowel points at all—in others it is pointed sh'wo, holom-hosér, qomass (i.e., the vowels of אֲדֹנָי). But the choice is an editorial choice that will be adhered to consistently throughout the text; that is to say, there will never be some אֲדֹנָי forms of the Sacred Name without vowel points and others with sh'woʾ, holom-hosér, qomass. Similarly, in roughly 300 instances where אֲדֹנָי is followed by the Sacred Name, the latter is pointed haṭaf-saghol, holom-hosér, hiriq (i.e., the vowels of אֱלֹהִים). *Note: The tradition determining which instances of the Sacred Name that are read אֱלֹהִים goes right back to the authors of the various books, because יֱ־הֹ־וִ־ה is only ever found in combination with אֲדֹנָי: in other words, if אדני is followed by the Sacred Name, one knows immediately that the combination אֲדֹנָי יֱ־הֹ־וִ־ה is to be vocalized אֲדֹנָי אֱלֹהִים.
The following video is an example of the reading of the Ten Utterances in the first 14 verses of Sh'moth, chapter 20; it is read alongside the Tarğum of ʾUnqlos, the officially recognized tarğum of the Torah which provides a continuous verse-by-verse interpretive Aramaic translation of ceremonial, public Scriptural readings that form a central part of our communal prayer services every Monday, Thursday and Saturday morning in our prayer-halls and also every Saturday afternoon (as well as on other Jewish feast days and days of fasting).
It should be noted that the vowels E-O-A actually belong to the word אֲדֹנָי, which is how the Sacred Name is pronounced in most cases. Gentiles, however, like to interpolate two different sets of arbitrary, artificial vowels between the Sacred Name's consonants in order to make it pronounceable (A-E & E-O-A) so they can demonstrate their defiance by showing their contempt for Jewish jurisprudence and practice—the act of defiance is an even greater crime than the actual utterance. Surely, Jews never give any child a name that is spelled quite like the Sacred Name (Four-Lettered Divine Title), and we never have done; we cannot, of course, prevent others from doing this.
There is such connection in Arabic translations of the T'na"ch, though. The fact of the matter is that اللّٰه ʾAllah is the Arabic title for the Creator (meaning 'the [One] God'), and has been used historically in place of the two Hebrew titles I mentioned earlier: אֱלֹהִים, and the Sacred Name. For example, the 'Tas'fir Rasa"g' (Arabic translation) of Rabbeinu Saʿadhyoh Ğoʾon to B'reshıth 1:1, D'vorim 6:4 reads
Jewish speakers of Arabic regularly refer to Hashem as الله ʾAllah in colloquial speech, although it is frequently replaced by ربنا Rabenaʾ ('Our Master'—רבנא in Arabic, transliterated into Hebrew characters, as shown above), which is related to the Hebrew אֱלֹהֵינוּ ʾAloheinu.
Prophecy was removed from the world because of the prayers of the ʾan'shei k'nasath hağ'dholoh ('Members of the Great Synod'), the 'parliament' who governed Yisroʾel during the Second Commonthealth period followingʿAzroʾ and N'hamyoh; the k'nasath hağ'dholoh existed at the beginning of the Second Temple, centuries before the half-human, half-divine hybrid man-god. It is, in any case, not the place of those who have purloined our texts and adopted it as their own to pontificate about who is, and who is not, one of our n'viʾim.plus the jews during Muhammad’s time (and still today) weren’t accepting of any “new” teachings or prophets they obviously didn’t need.... besides Jesus of course
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Thanks for schooling me on the Hebrew names/translations for God
Some things make a lot more sense now to me
What I really meant to say about non Hebrew speakers today who insist on calling God “Yah” Or “Jehovah” only or actually pronouncing YAHWEH as if that’s the proper way of calling on/praying to God, is that it doesn’t matter.....in CHRISTIANITY because technically Jesus is LORD
if they are just trying to be overly technical or self righteous “Hebrew Israelite” types my point is they are embarrassing themselves by possibly using it wrong and not knowing how it was used or intended to be used in Judaism
Likely they don’t know basically what you broke down in the post above.
Moving on....
My question is basically this now:
1. Can anyone really understand Judaism without knowing and understanding Hebrew?
2. How much of Hebrew language is meant exclusively for religious purposes? Do you (orthodox Jews) regard it as “Gods sacred language” similar to how Muslims view Arabic?
3. If Jews didn’t maintain Hebrew language and their knowledge of it could they still effectively practice Judaism religion? Seems like most of your understanding of God is rooted in Hebrew language.
4. Why do secular “Jews” still speak Hebrew/teach their kids it..... especially if they don’t believe in יֱ־הֹ־וִ־ה ?
5. Can an orthodox Arab Jewish person NOT know Hebrew?
6. If Arab Jews translate the Torah into Arabic and, as you say, it makes sense from a Jewish perspective, why do Muslims insist that God only allows the Quran written and recited in Arabic language ?
Can a true religions meaning be lost or replaced by culture and “tradition” ?
If both Jews/Muslims believe in the same God why would this God change the language in his “new” message (ie the Quran)?
I personally think it’s because Arabs don’t know Hebrew or they lost it/forgot it and adopted Islam. but they know if they studied and learned Hebrew and read the Torah IN Hebrew they’d become Jewish (or never became Muslims to begin with).
You easily translate Hebrew into English for me and it makes sense. you can even show similarities between Hebrew and Arabic versions of the Torah but a Muslim will never translate the QURAN back to Hebrew or even into new languages. They must depend on Arabic. It’s their limitation.
Even a Arab Jew who DOESNT know the Torah Hebrew and their Jewish traditions will still know Muhammad ISNT a prophet.
I think the point is, Religion is deeper than a language
And one last thing. You said:
Prophecy was removed from the world because of the prayers of the ʾan'shei k'nasath hağ'dholoh ('Members of the Great Synod'), the 'parliament' who governed Yisroʾel during the Second Commonthealth period followingʿAzroʾ and N'hamyoh
and that’s exactly why Jesus cannot be just “a prophet” to those who believe. He’s the messiah/king that Jews were waiting for. No need for “another prophet” or endless succession of prophets....etc.
To Muslims Jesus is “another prophet” in the line on prophets which makes no sense because even if Jesus was who Islam claims, what was the NEW message (injeel) he brought? and why was he sent by God as a prophet for Judaism if Muhammad was to come 600 years later anyways to “undo everything Jesus messed up by creating Christianity ”.
Diminishing Jesus as “just a prophet” gives Islam room to introduce Muhammad as the “final prophet”.
But what did Muhammad really do to make Muslims regard him as a true prophet? It’s like he’s a “prophet” whose only purpose and achievement was to convincing his followers Jesus was ONLY a prophet. But non believers can come to that conclusion on their own as they had be doing centuries before Islam
Lets consider Jacobs Ladder's function...and remember it was a dream...however it may have unintended consequences
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What was Jacob’s Ladder? What event actually took place there? Was this merely a dream? Will there be a connection to Messiah in the Hebrew word Sullam or ladder? Let’s find out. The very first book of the Ancient Prophetic Scriptures is the book of Genesis. In it, there remains an unusual...
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The word translated ladder is Sullam. Because this Hebrew word appears nowhere else in scripture it’s somewhat difficult to describe, but because there are other Hebrew words for staircase and none of them were used this must be something different.
It is valuable for us to note that this was a dream. This event took place before the Torah was given to man, and during this period YHWH sometimes revealed Himself through visions and dreams.
What might the Hebrew pictographs show us that would help us better describe what happened here?
Sullam is spelled Samech Lamed Mem.
Ancient Hebrew
Modern Hebrew ס
Samech is the picture of the prop and means to support, to twist slowly, to turn, or to assist.
Ancient Hebrew
Modern Hebrew ל
Lamed is the picture of the shepherd’s staff and means to control, to urge forward, to have authority, or it means the voice of authority.
Ancient Hebrew
Modern Hebrew מ
Mem is the picture of liquid and can be chaotic mighty waters of destruction like a tsunami or gentle water coming down like a stream. It refers to the living waters and the word of God that brings life.
Clearly, in these pictures, someone is being supported and in a sense assisted by this amazing ladder. But who is that? It’s the angels who are descending and ascending on this Sullam. And what are angels? The very word angel means messenger. Although there is no record of any conversation by the angels, their very presence brings Jacob the message YHWH is always near. Angels always come in the authority of their God YHWH.
Samekh is often associated with Samael the "Poison of God"
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@Ghost Utmost @DoubleClutch @Marks @Dave24 @Koichos lit a candle today for the main participants in this thread I believe yall would like to see today's service's topic :banderas:: Sunday of the 7th Ecumenical Council - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
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@DoubleClutch do you have near family or friends that are Muslim?
While Judaism from the outside looking in looks current, you must realize it came out of Babylonian captivity as I've said to you before. The ways of the Babylonians is now embedded in the Old Testament and nobody truly understands the ramifications of that (let alone Egypt and Rome).
This isnt the best way of analogizing this but "Israel" as you know it is like a woman who has been with multiple partners.
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So in truth, the entirety of the understanding is being yanked different directions. But you and I both know there is one solution
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While Judaism from the outside looking in looks current, you must realize it came out of Babylonian captivity as I've said to you before. The ways of the Babylonians is now embedded in the Old Testament and nobody truly understands the ramifications of that (let alone Egypt and Rome).
This isnt the best way of analogizing this but "Israel" as you know it is like a woman who has been with multiple partners.
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So in truth, the entirety of the understanding is being yanked different directions. But you and I both know there is one solution
HOW ISLAM GOT JESUS COMPLETELY WRONG!
You sound like trump breh, how do you have good word to something you're ignorant of:mjlol: When your Koran is full of ignorance, dont even get me started on how Arabs justify slavery of Blacks because your holy book says so. And this is the same book you call your culture..just strap a bomb...
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Lady Nō (Japanese: 濃姫, Hepburn: Nōhime, Nohime), also known as Kichō (帰蝶), was the legal wife of Oda Nobunaga, a major daimyōduring the Sengoku period of Japanese history. Her proper name was Kichō, but since she came from Mino Province, she is most commonly referred to as Nōhime ("Lady of Mino"; Nō is an abbreviation for Nōshū (濃州), other name of Mino Province, and hime means "lady, princess, noblewoman"). She was renowned for her beauty and cleverness.
Portrait of Nō in Gifu Castle
Nōhime's father was the daimyo Saitō Dōsanand her mother was known as Omi no Kata. Nō herself appears very little in any historical record, and there is little information on the dates of her birth or death; however, proposed dates for her birth fall in 1533–35. According to one historical record,[which?] Lady Nō was infertile, and when Nobunaga's concubine Lady Kitsuno gave birth to Oda Nobutada, the child was given to Lady Nō, Nobunaga's legal wife, to be raised as Nobunaga's heir.
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@Koichos why she sound like Sarah, Kicho was her nickname
Don’t tell me she’s a gorem too
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@MMS Back again lol but I know you'd enjoy EDIT: "The map is not the territory" Alfred Korzybski
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repeating patterns
With the right dialect that sound alil but like “Yushke” 
Yasuke: The mysterious African samurai
Yasuke was entrusted with decapitating his Japanese lord - a huge honour 500 years ago.
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Those depictions are somewhat stylized and not very accurate; the k'thov ʿivri alphabet looked more like this:everyone overlooked this post
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What was Jacob’s Ladder? What event actually took place there? Was this merely a dream? Will there be a connection to Messiah in the Hebrew word Sullam or ladder? Let’s find out. The very first book of the Ancient Prophetic Scriptures is the book of Genesis. In it, there remains an unusual...
Judaism goes back three and a half millennia... we have been a 'nation' for a very long time—we became one in Egypt more than 3,500 years ago (D'vorim 26:5). Although Yisroʾel became a nation while in Egypt (2238-2448 AM), Jewish history can be said to have begun in 1948 AM, when ʾAvrohom ʾOvinu was born (i.e., in ʾUr Kasdim, the modern Şanlıurfa in southeastern Turkey: Lat. 37°10'N, Long. 38°48'E).
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The twenty-four books of the T'na"ch (the original Hebrew and Aramaic text of the Bible) are Jewish writings, composed in the Jewish language, about Jews—and only ever meant for Jews to learn! You were never intended to read the Hebrew Scriptural text for yourself, because you will never be able to understand it without guidance from those with knowledge of the language and context in which said Scriptures were written, therefore Hashem appointed Yisroʾel (the only nation whose native language is Hebrew) to be His 'kingdom of preachers' (Sh'moth 19:6) and decreed that we should function as 'a light for the [other] nations' (Y'shaʿyohu 42:6, 49:6, 60:3, etc., etc.).
The greater part of the T'na"ch is set in poetic language and, for this reason, regularly breaks all the grammatical rules of the language. The result of this is that, while you can certainly learn enough Hebrew in just a few months (in an intensive study environment such as an ʾUlpon) to be able to carry on a social conversation, you will never (and I do mean—never) be able to learn Hebrew well enough to read the T'na"ch (i.e., Bible, which is written in Hebrew and a small amount of Aramaic) unaided, completely by yourself and without any guidance from a Jewish speaker of Hebrew. I am sorry if this comes as a disappointment to you, but that is just the way things are.
That depends entirely on one's custom. My family, for example, had very strong feelings about the use of 'the holy language' and would only allow us to use it outside-of-worship on Saturdays and other Jewish holy days—they insisted that my siblings and I use English or ʾIddish on weekdays; but we did anyway, although not in their presence. Our older relatives would speak Aramaic when having private conversations in our presence as children—until, of course, my brothers and I started learning g'moroʾ, which was written in Aramaic...
Even still, I have in my possession a collection of rather personal letters, all written in pure (if somewhat colloquial) Hebrew, between my great-grandfather (who was born in Y'rusholayim in ה׳תרנ״ו or 5656/1896) and various other people (many of whom I have no clue who they may have been!!) including his father (born in ה׳תרכ״ז or 5627/1867) and dated between ה׳תרע״ג or 5627/1913 and ה׳תרצ״ד or 5694/1934. So Hebrew was being spoken between Jews as the everyday language of communication, at the very least in Y'rusholayim.
We often refer to Hebrew as הַלָּשׁוֹן הַקְּדֹשָׁה ('the holy tongue'). But I feel that it would be appropriate to mention the T'na"ch's take on it...
You make it sound like a terrible imposition for us to 'have' to learn our own language!!! But we see it as a privilege and a joy to know and use our holy tongue, and we are also anxious to avoid any repetition of the shameful situation recorded in N'hamyoh's 13th chapter.
Note that the language's contemporary name (עִבְרִית ʿivrith, 'Hebrew') is not found anywhere in the T'na"ch (Bible). The Scriptural term for the Hebrew language is יְהוּדִית y'hudhith ('Y'hudaean [or, Jewish]'): see, for example, M'lochim Béth 18:26, 18:28; Y'shaʿyohu 36:11, 36:13; Div'ré Hayyomim Béth 32:18 (which all relate to the same incident); and N'ham'yoh 13:24. We know that יְהוּדִית y'hudhith refers to Hebrew because יְהוּדִית y'hudhith (Hebrew) is contrasted with אֲרָמִית ʾaromith (Aramaic) in M'lochim Béth 18:26 & Y'shaʿyohu 36:11.
Well, duh—the T'na"ch's twenty-four books are written (mostly) in Hebrew, and there is no knowledge of God without the T'na"ch.
Hilloniyyim ('secular' Jews) are not necessarily atheists, even if they have no interest at all in religion in general. They are still Jewish.4. Why do secular “Jews” still speak Hebrew/teach their kids it..... especially if they don’t believe in יֱ־הֹ־וִ־ה ?
An 'Arab Jewish person' is a contradictio in terminis (a contradiction in terms), an oxymoron. Perhaps you meant to say Jews of Arabic extraction (Jewish speakers of Arabic); we are not Arabs and would take great exception to being called such. To answer your question: No, because Jews who are interested in studying the T'na"ch (the original Hebrew and Aramaic text of the Bible)—i.e., observant Jews—make sure that their children learn Hebrew at a very young age, so this supposed 'problem' never actually arises. We always pray and worship in our own beautiful, ancient and holy language—Hebrew. All Jews normally pray in Hebrew and, to a lesser degree, Aramaic.
יִשְׁמְעֵלִי Yishmʿeli means a descendant of יִשְׁמָעֵאל Yishmoʿel, in the same way as a descendant of עַמּוֹן ʿAmmon (son of Loṭ by his younger daughter, B'reshıth 19:38) is called an עַמּוֹנִי ʿAmmoni, a descendant of מוֹאָב Moʾov (son of Loṭ by his elder daughter, B'reshıth 19:37) is called a מוֹאָבִי Moʾovi, a descendant of עֲמָלֵק ʿAmoleq (son of ʿEsow's firstborn son ʾAlifaz and his pilaghash Timnaʿ, B'reshıth 36:12) is called an עֲמָלֵקִי ʿAmoleqi, a descendant of יִשְׂרָאֵל Yisroʾel (the patriarch Yaʿaqov, who was given the alternative name Yisroʾel, B'reshıth 32:29) is called a יִשְׂרְאֵלִי Yisrʾeli and a descendant of אֱדוֹם ʾAdhom (another name for ʿEsow, B'reshıth 25:30) is called an אֲדֹמִי ʾAdhomi.
The Yishmʿelim (Arabs) are our cousins and so we refer to them as such: בְּנֵי דּוֹדִים. Interestingly, the express command to 'circumcise' is unique in its pertaining to all ʾAvrohom's descendants, including his descendants through Yishmoʿel and all Q'ṭuroh's six sons (Zim'ron, Yoq'shon, M'dhon, Midh'yon, Yish'boq, Shu'ah (B'reshıth 25:2)). In any case, the manner in which they perform circumcision (i.e., ختان khitan) does not satisfy a male Jew's obligation to undergo circumcision for it is incomplete within the context of Jewish jurisprudence. Yishmoʿel and his younger brother Yiss'hoq were both 'only sons' of their respective mothers, which technically makes us 'half'-cousins.
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If anything, Yushkeh was a 'false prophet' who deserved death (D'vorim 13:6, 18:20), because he made at least one 'prediction' that never happened (reported at Matthew 24:1-2, Mark 13:1-2, Luke 19:41-44).
*I wonder how many people have ever noticed that the word נֵס 'a miracle' has the same root as the verb לְנַסּוֹת 'to test' (see B'reshıth 22:1, Sh;moth 20:17, etc)?
The juxtaposition between verses 2-5 and verse 1 is a clear reference to Yushkeh, because (i) he himself says (John 13:34) 'I am giving you a new commandment', and (ii) there are a number of places in the gossipels where he explicitly abrogates various misswoth of the Torah; and (iii) Yushkeh further claimed to be a 'prophet', predicting (among other things) that the Old City of Y'rusholayim was going to be besieged (Luke 19:43) and then destroyed so completely that 'not one stone will be left upon another, that was not thrown down' (Matthew 24:2, Mark 13:2 & Luke 19:44)—which has not happened at any time from his own until the present. The largest blocks of dressed stone above today's ground level date from the time of Harod, but the lowest rows below the ground—and I am talking about what lies approximately 15-20 meters below the ground—are from the First Bayyith (i.e., Temple) which was built by King Sh'lomoh.
There has been a retaining wall on that site for 3,000 years. Today there is probably as much of the western wall of the ancient Temple compound buried in the ground as now stands above ground level, as the Romans ploughed up the region where the Temple had stood (Mishnoh, Taʿanith, chapter dalat, paragraph wow; and g'moroʾ, folio chof-ṭéth, column ʾalaf) and heaped rubble against the retaining walls that surrounded the Har Habayyith (i.e., the Temple Mount) in an effort to bury the structure completely. But the lowest courses of the wall, which have now been exposed to view by shafts that were sunk by Yisrʾeli archaeologists in the tunnels that run beside the structure, date from the time of Sh'lomoh's Temple; and the existing walls were merely extended upward when the existing walls were constructed (*the uppermost rows of much smaller bricks are even later additions and date from the Muslims and even the Ottomans).
The phony imposter Yushkeh could not have been 'the messiah' foretold in the T'na"ch because:
It would be quicker to list Yushkeh's prophecies that were true. Here is a complete list of them:
I mean this in sincerity that I wish health to Israel. But you didn’t refute my assessmentThose depictions are somewhat stylized and not very accurate; the k'thov ʿivri alphabet looked more like this:
The letter ח was also sometimes written:
Judaism goes back three and a half millennia... we have been a 'nation' for a very long time—we became one in Egypt more than 3,500 years ago (D'vorim 26:5). Although Yisroʾel became a nation while in Egypt (2238-2448 AM), Jewish history can be said to have begun in 1948 AM, when ʾAvrohom ʾOvinu was born (i.e., in ʾUr Kasdim, the modern Şanlıurfa in southeastern Turkey: Lat. 37°10'N, Long. 38°48'E).
In Greek mythology that would be a tartarian gate if I’ve seen one. This is why I agree with you about Kabbalist works.
That “ladder” sets the stage for belief in angels and Demons etc
It said he gathered “stones” for the place he slept as well
Baetyl - Wikipedia
As stated before this came before Torah which would mean it came from Canaan more than likely…
“People call us the liar rocks”
We are living in a world of illusion
@Koichos Resh - Wikipedia Sheqer or Seker? maybe both We are living in a world of illusion Is this another one of your ridiculous etymological connection claims? Boring! shéqer לבני ירושלים, לבני ספרד ולבני המזרח, לבני אשכנז, פולין ורוסיה sháqar לבני שרעב shágar לבני צנעא You score only...
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Sinister is a system
I must’ve read this thread before i took my edible because i had a bugged out dream where we lived in an illusion and the rulers of this world uses entertainment to tease their existence slowly because those who stumbled on to the truth went insane when they learned the truth.
Like any movie where its the small hero or group that takes down the big bad empire or gang is just the illusion that we can win and those who are logically talkin about the movie would be over in the 1st 5 min are the ones closest to the truth
Like any movie where its the small hero or group that takes down the big bad empire or gang is just the illusion that we can win and those who are logically talkin about the movie would be over in the 1st 5 min are the ones closest to the truth
In Elder Scrolls (Skyrim, Morrowind, Oblivion) theres something known as CHIM. It's basically in-game lore for a kind of enlightenment/self-awareness. Essentially that entire game universe is the dream of some kinda godhead. The dwemer (their dwarf race) were technologically advanced and figured it out but they couldn't reconcile the fact that they were just a dream of some other being so literally disappeared. Like straight up stop existing. Leaving no trace, just phased out of existence.
The other two examples of ppl reaching chim or kind of are Vivec and Dagoth Ur. Vivec is like a manifestation of every duality, all things, at once in a living being. Dagoth is like a twisted version of this, he believes he *IS* the godhead, and that all of the universe is *HIS* dream. No matter how you take it, to "survive" chim you have to be able to hold paradoxes in your mind without losing your individual identity. However you solve that equation is up to you, so long as you don't get a zero sum you won't disappear lol.
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