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if time exists as the above video says, then we are a series of infinite yet indivisible after images because right now is always slightly behind the time it takes for your eyes to register the light from images

so if reality was just a projection, you would always be that amount of time off from truly knowing

do words have after images?

Semi related but theres some prof in california that has written and studies something like this, his whole thing is that we perceive the world as we do for suvival, and that if we could actually perceive reality as it is, we would not "be fruitful & multiply" as it were. A world of symbols built for our benefit. Wish I could link his research but i can't remember his name. I know he's given ted talks and been on youtube though. I do know theres another guy who in europe who is studying similar.
 

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Semi related but theres some prof in california that has written and studies something like this, his whole thing is that we perceive the world as we do for suvival, and that if we could actually perceive reality as it is, we would not "be fruitful & multiply" as it were. A world of symbols built for our benefit. Wish I could link his research but i can't remember his name. I know he's given ted talks and been on youtube though. I do know theres another guy who in europe who is studying similar.
symbols allow us to measure, but they arent necessarily a substitute for the absolute

while in engineering school we were taught this early, that there are very few "absolute" things in the universe and that most facts are really two references linked via a tested hypothesis

so in otherwords, its all built on nothing. Our reality is very carefully constructed such that the constants that we perceive must be what they are otherwise reality would unravel.

So my question becomes are their infinite realities? or is their one singular infinite reality built on constant premises? :jbhmm:
 

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symbols allow us to measure, but they arent necessarily a substitute for the absolute

while in engineering school we were taught this early, that there are very few "absolute" things in the universe and that most facts are really two references linked via a tested hypothesis

so in otherwords, its all built on nothing. Our reality is very carefully constructed such that the constants that we perceive must be what they are otherwise reality would unravel.

So my question becomes are their infinite realities? or is their one singular infinite reality built on constant premises? :jbhmm:




this the dude, not this video in particular but you can look him up (if you want)
 
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We are of light, which is of gods voice. Meaning we are multidimensional pluriforms of Gods eternal word

a simulation implies we are just a recording or a holographic projection that isnt distinguishable from the dust. We clearly have agency so no I would not say we are a simulation perse.

behold, here is also a video game
Get right with God

:mjgrin: it would appear someone from Egypt knows of it


when moses parted the red sea, it is in hebrew the "reed sea" or Yam Suph meaning the Sea of Reeds. Which is the location of Egyptian "heaven" or the final afterlife known as Sekhet Aaru

if the reed sea is the real parted waters...what really is happening?
Simulation is an over simplification, we're are avatars of God. Creating in his image, host to the spirit
 
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Simulation is an over simplification, we're are avatars of God. Creating in his image, host to the spirit
Bible Gateway passage: Psalm 73 - King James Version

this is why the core message of scripture is to repent, and take hold of the serpent (your own tongue) as it has creative power

lest we be judged a beast of the earth :francis:

Genesis 2:19-20

19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

hidden message right there
 

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We are of light, which is of gods voice. Meaning we are multidimensional pluriforms of Gods eternal word

a simulation implies we are just a recording or a holographic projection that isnt distinguishable from the dust. We clearly have agency so no I would not say we are a simulation perse.

behold, here is also a video game
Get right with God

:mjgrin: it would appear someone from Egypt knows of it


when moses parted the red sea, it is in hebrew the "reed sea" or Yam Suph meaning the Sea of Reeds. Which is the location of Egyptian "heaven" or the final afterlife known as Sekhet Aaru

if the reed sea is the real parted waters...what really is happening?
Elohist interpretation which I believe is the most metaphorical said the Reed Sea, the pharaoh and his army where killed before they could cross the threshold to the other side. They didn't believe in God their souls couldn't enter "heaven" Moses was still due north? Of the actual Red Sea.

You got any good reading? I need something digestible if you could recommend breh, I'm just starting
 
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But it is good for me to draw near to God

:wow:


that identification line and overusage of I

is like manna from heaven


something ive debated internally lately is this

Octopus have multiple tentacles right...but they also have multiple nervous systems for each tentacle that have literal autonomy from their "head"

by that same notion...whats to say that the human tongue (or any tongue) doesnt have a degree of autonomy? maybe even the organs exert a degree of control literally in the form of chemical action :picard:
 

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Elohist interpretation which I believe is the most metaphorical said the Reed Sea, the pharaoh and his army where killed before they could cross the threshold to the other side. They didn't believe in God their souls couldn't enter "heaven" Moses was still due north? Of the actual Red Sea.

You got any good reading? I need something digestible if you could recommend breh, I'm just starting
Egypt believed in circular time in that everything was happening within the day Ra crossed the duat into the land of the living and rebirthed itself

So Moses in essence was leading the hebrews out of "mental and spiritual captivity" moreso than physical captivity...

the question is this for a Jewish compadres @Koichos @Sccit

if the Egyptian system of a permanent high priest in the king (Nemty, Horus, Nepit etc) resulted in captivity, then why are their messianic movements?

in other words, by leaving Egypt the beliefs of the Israelites could no longer be weighted and controlled by Pharaoh but now by scribes tasked with maintaining records. History says that might be worse given that only the victors write the history.... IE Cyrus is written as the shepherd by Isaiah...but we know that the Persians didnt last either and by definition are the "work of gods hand"

but what is victory if God does and always has reigned? Something tells me the answer to this lies with Nimrod who in myth unified the world...but if God reigns it means God himself granted that stewardship...:jbhmm:

Is that Nimrods system worked and its language itself is rooted in his understanding

so in essence all language may follow a similar pattern that he may have understood :jbhmm:

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The son of Cush and therefore a great-grandson of Noah, Nimrod was described as a king in the land of Shinar (Mesopotamia). The Bible states that he was "a mighty hunter before the Lord [and] ... began to be mighty in the earth".

"Every time I see 'em, look 'em in the eye
Ask me how I know, it's me, suprise!
Put it in the air, rep where ya stay
Take a step back, blow the kush in they face :banderas:
Stuntin' is a habit, let 'em see the karats
I'm a make it rain, nikka, I ain't scared to share it"

Osiris - Wikipedia
 
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Egypt believed in circular time in that everything was happening within the day Ra crossed the duat into the land of the living and rebirthed itself

So Moses in essence was leading the hebrews out of "mental and spiritual captivity" moreso than physical captivity...

the question is this for a Jewish compadres @Koichos @Sccit

if the Egyptian system of a permanent high priest in the king (Nemty, Horus, Nepit etc) resulted in captivity, then why are their messianic movements?

in other words, by leaving Egypt the beliefs of the Israelites could no longer be weighted and controlled by Pharaoh but now by scribes tasked with maintaining records. History says that might be worse given that only the victors write the history.... IE Cyrus is written as the shepherd by Isaiah...but we know that the Persians didnt last either and by definition are the "work of gods hand"

but what is victory if God does and always has reigned? Something tells me the answer to this lies with Nimrod who in myth unified the world...but if God reigns it means God himself granted that stewardship...:jbhmm:

Is that Nimrods system worked and its language itself is rooted in his understanding

so in essence all language may follow a similar pattern that he may have understood :jbhmm:

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"Every time I see 'em, look 'em in the eye
Ask me how I know, it's me, suprise!
Put it in the air, rep where ya stay
Take a step back, blow the kush in they face :banderas:
Stuntin' is a habit, let 'em see the karats
I'm a make it rain, nikka, I ain't scared to share it"

Osiris - Wikipedia
Bust it, Abraham worked at his family's idol shop when he heard God tell him to smash all the other idols, correct? After Abraham's father took him to nimrod, and thus began God's sacrament with Abraham. Again we are all avatars of YHWH, Abraham just literally heeded God's call. We all have that ability too it's not unique. To actually speak with God is.
 
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Bust it, Abraham worked at his family's idol shop when he heard God tell him to smash all the other idols, correct? After Abraham's father took him to nimrod, and thus began God's sacrament with Abraham. Again we are all avatars of YHWH, Abraham just literally heeded God's call. We all have that ability too it's not unique. To actually speak with God is.
Again this is all under the premise we are in God's "simulation" and this just all an illusion. We can read, we do not possess a read/write ability. We're like NFTs in the metaverse but God level advanced, for obvious reasons he's the creator
 
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Bust it, Abraham worked at his family's idol shop when he heard God tell him to smash all the other idols, correct? After Abraham's father took him to nimrod, and thus began God's sacrament with Abraham. Again we are all avatars of YHWH, Abraham just literally heeded God's call. We all have that ability too it's not unique. To actually speak with God is.
was the voice in Abrahams head: God? Or his serpent?

:ehh:

What possesses someone to destroy?

As per Genesis 1, does god act through destruction...or through love?

so from my perspective, Abraham represents blasphemy and a living testament to what it does to a man. His entire lineage now per the bible is "special" in the eyes of God. He believed it so much that he considered sacrifice of his first born son in light of current traditions of the time.

However consider logically that there are people and creatures that do not have access to scripture or reading/writing yet the entire jewish belief system begins there

From my perspective Abraham represents an archetype.

His life, told in the narrative in the Book of Genesis, revolves around the themes of posterity and land. Abraham is called by God to leave the house of his father Terah and settle in the land originally given to Canaan but which God now promises to Abraham and his progeny. Various candidates are put forward who might inherit the land after Abraham; and, while promises are made to Ishmael about founding a great nation, Isaac, Abraham's son by his half-sister Sarah, inherits God's promises to Abraham. Abraham purchases a tomb (the Cave of the Patriarchs) at Hebron to be Sarah's grave, thus establishing his right to the land; and, in the second generation, his heir Isaac is married to a woman from his own kin, thus ruling the Canaanites out of any inheritance. Abraham later marries Keturah and has six more sons; but, on his death, when he is buried beside Sarah, it is Isaac who receives "all Abraham's goods", while the other sons receive only "gifts"

Whereas Terah (whose name means Breath of God) was obedient to the rulers and customs of his time period, Abraham sought autonomy from the kings and set many precedents not limited too:

  • Singular Property ownership
  • Passing down possessions is more important for first born
  • Sought to inhabit land that Noah predicted would result in servitude
  • Adopted circumcision from Egypt as a covenant with God
All of these things are superficial, and ironically Abraham was concerned with who his sons married (also superficial if God reigns)

Abraham created a movement that says: Do as the Lord commands so that you can better yourself in this world and pass this knowledge to your children.

However the result of this way of thinking is War and eternal conflict and definitely not the Garden of Eden.

The secret to the creation of the Abraham story imo lies here:
Gates of Alexander - Wikipedia

Abraham and his progeny were from the land of the Hurrians which were just south of the Caucuses :unimpressed:

It is a good thing that we have the gospel of Jesus, otherwise you will only see God as a means to an end if you were to only consider Abraham and his sons perspective
 

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