we all love combat jack now. but remember when he shytted on 2pac?

[labelplant]

Thats exactly what I'm saying. Where them Tupac bars that make you and your whole crew scrunch up yer faces and
tell your mans closest to the music to pause the music and play them lyrics on repeat?

They say p*ssy and paper is poetry power and pistols
Plotting on murderin motherfukkers 'fore they get you
Picturing pitiful punk nikkas copping pleas
Puffing weed as I position myself to clock G's
My enemies scatter in suicidal situations
Never to witness the wicked shyt that they was facin
Pockets is packed with presidents, pursue your riches
Evading the playa hating tricks, while hitting switches
bytches is bad-mouth, cause brawlin motherfukkers is bold
But y'all some hoes, the game should be sewed

First few bars of me against the world... An "average" album

 

[Ian1362]

Shut up nikka,this is just more clown shyt trying to discredit pac's greatness. I told nikkas (prior to thuglife) that pac would take over if he got some better production. Cause i never heard anyone like him. You and other fukk nikkas always wanna discredit pac because of WHAT ELSE he had. True he had a larger than life persona. But thuglife,MATW,AEOM and 7dt were back to back to back classic records that went along with his persona.

It's almost like you just didn't read any of his post and just typed up your rambled thoughts as fast as possible.

There are tons of East Coast cats who fukk with Pac who don't commit idolatry (or kowtow to "his greatness"). I own most of his discog on vinyl. I've sampled him. He's not my favorite emcee ever. Hilarious talking about getting "better production" when 7DT had some of the worst production of his whole discography. I'll post this 5 min MPC creation again for comedic effect:




This sort of cult-of-personality results in starry-eyed- love letters like the incoherent essay posted in response to DANJI's post, which consists almost entirely of repeating the same opinion (not incontrovertible fact of reality) "he was unmatched musically" as if it will somehow magically wash over everyone else to view the world through his eyes.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

It's almost like you just didn't read any of his post and just typed up your rambled thoughts as fast as possible.

There are tons of East Coast cats who fukk with Pac who don't commit idolatry (or kowtow to "his greatness"). I own most of his discog on vinyl. I've sampled him. He's not my favorite emcee ever. Hilarious talking about getting "better production" when 7DT had some of the worst production of his whole discography. I'll post this 5 min MPC creation again for comedic effect:




This sort of cult-of-personality results in starry-eyed- love letters like the incoherent essay posted in response to DANJI's post, which consists almost entirely of repeating the same opinion (not incontrovertible fact of reality) "he was unmatched musically" as if it will somehow magically wash over everyone else to view the world through his eyes.

Your comment on 7dt beats mean nothing. from S4MN to thuglife,matw,AEOm the beats got better and i spoke on this prior to thuglife. Actually I made perfect sense. Stick to making run of the mil beats lil nikka.

 

[Nomad1]

Your comment on 7dt beats mean nothing. from S4MN to thuglife,matw,AEOm the beats got better and i spoke on this prior to thuglife. Actually I made perfect sense. Stick to making run of the mil beats lil nikka.

There is no point arguing with these clowns. Now 7DT is Pac's worst album production wise?

 

[Axum Ezana]

There is no point arguing with these clowns. Now 7DT is Pac's worst album production wise?

bruh this site is full of bitter new York fakkits that talk about pac more than their so called hometown heros bruh.

we already exposed one toy gun totting fakkit who hated on pac all the time.....anyone who hate pac super hard is a straight lame in real life. and ill bet all my money on that shyt. some fake ass thug, biggie/50 stan, troll/shock poster or a hipster cac who thinks they everything about "real hip hop".

I wouldn't even go back n forth with these stupid nikkas bruh. you see I stopped responding to so called pac haters once that homo thug from newyork was exposed.

they probably hate on pac cause that nikka said to many things good about black women despite being set up.....ol neo super c00n homo thug fakkits.

 

[big bun]

I think it's funny how people who don't fukk with Pac go the extra mile to prove they REALLY don't fukk with him LOL

 

[Wacky D]

as far as @CombatJack goes

i want to say i respect him for holding his ground on an unpopular opinion but i'll be more impressed if he addresses eminem or one of these untouchable industry frauds. those are the main people that should be called out. lets see if XXL allows that on their website.

do that, then you can say what you want about pac and whoever else afterwards.

 

[NYK Loyalist]

I'm from NY and i fukk with Combat but to say MATW is trash he obviously wasn't listening objectively or didn't really listen to it at all. I will agree that PAC's first 2 albums weren't that good and I've always thought All Eyes On Me was overrated but MATW, 7 Day Theory and a lot of his posthumous stuff is incredible.

 

[Wacky D]

nikkas was just lookin for somebody to be mad at fam...you took too long to respond so they moved on to Troy Ave now lol

lol.

bul missed his own party.

Ehhh, its his opinion. Also old east coast head or not, look, pac has a lot of timeless music. But 100% real talk, plenty of folks who were into hip hop at the time pac was alive werent 100% behind dude as the all time goat. Pac was more or less like Snoop Dogg at the time he was alive, he was a great, many people loved him all across the country, but on the other hand if someone just didnt love him it was no big deal. East Coast, West Coast whatever, plenty of folks thought pac was just another rapper in the 90s, and plenty of folks thought pac was just another good rapper. The pac is an icon who cant be touched and is next to god REALLY didnt come up until after he died.

of course nobody was behind pac as the all-time goat back then. he was current and still staking his claim.

all the goats back then were its not like now where kids want to rush to use terms like goat or classic. so thats not a knock on pac at all.

It's not always about 'East Coast bias' or being mad cause he dissed another rapper, hip-hop was a lil' different than some of y'all remember it to be at that time. You were still free to listen to whatever/whomever you wanted. It was OK if you didn't like gangsta shyt, or didn't like underground shyt, or didn't like party shyt... and so as a result, there's some artists that might have flown under your radar. If that wasn't your bag, it wasn't your bag... there's people I knew that were kinda "aiiight" about Pac but loved Dre & Snoop's shyt... or liked Hieroglyphics... or were more into Cube... matter fact, I recall Combat Jack noting several times how hard he fukked with Cube's shyt back in the day... I know it's hard to believe, but Pac wasn't an exception to the rule or a holy grail that you were obligated to be a huge fan of back then. That only happened after he passed.

i can agree with this, if you can admit that the same thing goes for biggie. cuz truth be told, alot of people werent big fans of either one of them. there was so much going on. but nowadays, people act like they were untouchable rap gods who would still be ruling the game in 2014.

and i think 2pac is the goat, btw.

 

[Wacky D]

nah he just gave him a style to run with

you know that pac pic was before the nas pic, right?

 

[Wacky D]

pac wasnt a super-lyrical rapper but he could hit you over the head with that stuff too when he really wanted.

and im glad yall called out the contradictions. oldheads will downplay pac but will sing a comletely different tune concerning KRS, chuck d, etc. and theyll act like tribe & epmd were some lyrical miracles.

and when biggie rose to prominence he wasnt any better lyically than pac.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

you know that pac pic was before the nas pic, right?

 

[Olu Dara]

 

[Thizzlam]

"Street Signs," you're on the air...

 

[Scotch Hall]

Look man...

I don't agree, but there are people who don't worship the work of the almighty 2Pac... it's not always about hurt feelings or bias. It could just be a matter of personal taste. I do recall Jack recently saying that he has really gotten more in tune with Pac's music over time tho', and really respected how he keep it extra funky on the Makaveli album.

That bein' said, them first two albums can kick rocks. If some of y'all Pac lovers take off the "but it's Pac" shades, y'all would see that. That joint was way behind the curve for '91/'92 and was rightfully overlooked when it dropped. Strictly was a lil' better, it's Pac making his transition into the Pac everybody loves- its like a mix of the Pac who was still finding his voice and the Pac that arrived and became a legit star in '93.

Now after that? Pac was firing on all cylinders, and was only getting better. I def. feel those last three albums were classics, but I can also understand if someone doesn't agree. Some of y'all nikkas act like it's law to love all his shyt.

Man fukk that. Is it a good album or not? Nobody else gets passes for their albums if the beats are lacking. That's half of the album right there. I can deal with the production... I'm familiar with the sound of that era, rap didn't start for me in '93. And sure, Pac was a capable MC at the time, not a great one. There's nothing he was doing at that time that you couldn't have gotten better from someone else. He had flashes of genius in some of that shyt but a flash is just a flash. He really got it together from post-Strictly to when he passed... those are the years he was PAC at his best. Before that, he was aiiite and made mostly aiiiite shyt.

I've seen a post of yours on 2Pacalypse Now, I feel that if you listened to the version DADA7 remastered you would like it. 2Pacalypse Now wasn't that bad of an album the version we all got just sounded muddy
I actually feel that 2Pacaylpse Now was better than strictly.
Both 2Pacaylpse Now and S4MN suffered from mixing/mastering issues.

I'll look for the remaster one of these days and post some vids.