Watch Jack Nicholson work himself up to do the axe scene in The Shining

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This is why I dont have respect for Kubrick because of his lack of ethics in working with people. Heard too many (confirmed) horror stories about the mental torture he puts his actors through, and that shyt was completely unnecessary...
In principal it's no different than mcconaughey refusing to shower during the making of that crimson tide ripoff or what bale did to himself for machinist these people are slaves to the art. They got the best performance out of her and most likely apologized profusely afterwords :francis:
 

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That is EXACTLY what Jack is lacking...Take a very close look into his eyes, there is almost like a twinkle in them...

Jack looks like somebody trying to act like he is crazy, and his acting just isn't convincing to somebody who has seen the real deal...

I don't think that was the take they went with eventually I don't remember shining being a camp comedy
 

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Deep like The Shining, sparkle like a diamond
Sneak a uzi on the island in my army jacket lining... :ahh:

 
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I don't think that was the take they went with eventually I don't remember shining being a camp comedy
Bottom line, he is not convincing to me, a person who has worked in mental health, and has seen what really happens when the levees break...

In fact, I don't even bother with TV Shows/Movies that attempt to recreate "realistic" healthcare environments, they fail misery...

The amount of money these bozos just reflect the stupidity of society in general...

And people want to be mad at Martin Shkreli for charging $750 for a life changing medication...:russ:
 

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In principal it's no different than mcconaughey refusing to shower during the making of that crimson tide ripoff or what bale did to himself for machinist these people are slaves to the art. They got the best performance out of her and most likely apologized profusely afterwords :francis:

Nah, its different. An actors choice to develop their character (It was Bales choice alone to lose the weight, the Director planned to use CGI) compared to a Director imposing themselves on the actual person to influence the performance is unethical. Even though I am nowhere near his level as a Director, I see the performances I can get from an actor without the mind games. It shows a lack of respect for an actors intellect and emotional depth imo...
 

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Nah, its different. An actors choice to develop their character (It was Bales choice alone to lose the weight, the Director planned to use CGI) compared to a Director imposing themselves on the actual person to influence the performance is unethical. Even though I am nowhere near his level as a Director, I see the performances I can get from an actor without the mind games. It shows a lack of respect for an actors intellect and emotional depth imo...

So what do you think about the Blair Witch Project?

I ask because they dropped those 3 actors out in the middle of the woods with a shytty map and no food and hid in the woods to fukk with their heads until they were on the verge of losing their minds. I saw some PTSD interview with the female about how horrible it was to endure and how she'd never do it again. People can hate on the movie all they'd like and (rightly) criticize various pieces of it, but a lot of the praise it gets come from people who appreciate the authentic acting - which only came to be because the entire production was based around fukking their minds up and making them legitimately scared.

The actors didn't choose to get into the role by doing some method training like Bales, but they signed up for it none the less.

And I'm not picking sides here, I'm just curious as to how this fits in with what you're saying. Is it okay if the actor says it's okay? And if the actor knows they're going to be working with a Kubrick/Hitchcock type that's known for putting pressure on, do they still get to complain?
 

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So what do you think about the Blair Witch Project?

I ask because they dropped those 3 actors out in the middle of the woods with a shytty map and no food and hid in the woods to fukk with their heads until they were on the verge of losing their minds. I saw some PTSD interview with the female about how horrible it was to endure and how she'd never do it again. People can hate on the movie all they'd like and (rightly) criticize various pieces of it, but a lot of the praise it gets come from people who appreciate the authentic acting - which only came to be because the entire production was based around fukking their minds up and making them legitimately scared.

The actors didn't choose to get into the role by doing some method training like Bales, but they signed up for it none the less.

And I'm not picking sides here, I'm just curious as to how this fits in with what you're saying. Is it okay if the actor says it's okay? And if the actor knows they're going to be working with a Kubrick/Hitchcock type that's known for putting pressure on, do they still get to complain?

I see what youre saying, even though I would I would put that in the same category. That shyt is unethical to me also, I just have a certain perspective on how people should be treated no matter what. And yes if the actors signed up for it thats what they have to deal with. But my indictment is on the directors alone because I disagree with their methods, regardless of who is willing to work with them...
 
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