Patrick Kane
Superstar
I thought it was dope. A bit long but I enjoyed it. I watched it in theatres when it dropped though, due for a rewatch at home
Was The Batman THAT good? Let's Vote on it.
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The best Batman movie hasn't even been made yet because only I can do that:
Quiet, shy kid called Jack from a good home with a fascination for comic books is taken to see a play by parents to broaden horizons. On the way out a goon tries to rob them, claps the parents and when he points the gun at the kid the entire movie shifts into a comic book pane, complete with speech/thought boxes as childs psyche fractures and imagines leaping at the robber to save the day.
Thing is the kid can no longer tell whats real and fantasy and actually does that in the flesh and clicks back into life with a gun in hand, sirens wailing, parents dead and the blood of a goon all over them and can't tell whats what. At this point an "imaginary friend" called The Joker pops up and starts offering help and guidance on what to do in order to escape and that "I'll always keep you safe and happy, look at the big smile on my face" until the kid (in comic book mode, which is just an overlay on real life events) becomes The Joker.
Rises quickly in the Gotham underworld due to being entirely unpredictable, seemingly able to bend the laws of physics (as they are the artist and reader of the comic as well as its star IRL) and only ever communicating via notes written in a childs scrawl, which becomes the famous calling card. All of the dialogue we see is in Jacks head talking to The Joker, nobody ever hears the childs voice because
Moment become a lifetime. A lifetime in moments in a nutshell but the true skill of the tale is how both of these halves weave together because the end is when the story really begins as the sequel sees Jack on the run, maturing, rising to power and coming up against a much older, weary, painkiller addicted, barely functional "I'm too old for this ish" Batman who then freaks out at the mirrored inversion of his own trauma being manifest as Joker and becomes steadily more and more unhinged which leads to Batman losing his own grip on sanity and wondering why he can't beat Jack, no matter what he tries.
What happens in the third installment would blow your mind to shreds but I doubt the IP owners would let Batman get quite as dark as I envision but in a nutshell its all about polarity, equal and opposite reactions along with the definition of character, the nature of the psyche and many other bits and pieces I haven't even pondered yet but thats a quick outline as inspired by this thread.
Golly I'm gully...
Quiet, shy kid called Jack from a good home with a fascination for comic books is taken to see a play by parents to broaden horizons. On the way out a goon tries to rob them, claps the parents and when he points the gun at the kid the entire movie shifts into a comic book pane, complete with speech/thought boxes as childs psyche fractures and imagines leaping at the robber to save the day.
Thing is the kid can no longer tell whats real and fantasy and actually does that in the flesh and clicks back into life with a gun in hand, sirens wailing, parents dead and the blood of a goon all over them and can't tell whats what. At this point an "imaginary friend" called The Joker pops up and starts offering help and guidance on what to do in order to escape and that "I'll always keep you safe and happy, look at the big smile on my face" until the kid (in comic book mode, which is just an overlay on real life events) becomes The Joker.
Rises quickly in the Gotham underworld due to being entirely unpredictable, seemingly able to bend the laws of physics (as they are the artist and reader of the comic as well as its star IRL) and only ever communicating via notes written in a childs scrawl, which becomes the famous calling card. All of the dialogue we see is in Jacks head talking to The Joker, nobody ever hears the childs voice because
they went into shock at the shooting and all of the movie takes place during them getting transported to hospital, stabilized and eventually waking up a few days later. Thats when we see so many elements of the tale were actually based on things that were going on around them/said by other characters IRL as they were passed out. The Joker imagery was from the clowns on the wallpaper of the childrens ward in the hospital, weaving bits and pieces of whats heard around them into the tale as it progresses so a news story about Batman in the background becomes part of the comic book coping strategy playing out in the childs mind as they're unconscious in the aftermath of the robbery where they did actually kill the robber.
Movie is scaled so that we run through it all till the last 15 minutes in the kids time dilated mind and then we run it backwards from waking up in the hospital to the first scene but this time you see all the things the kid was reading as cues for their own story as the source material. The medic is shining light in their eyes, checking vitals as the child wakes up and they say "Do you know here you are? What day is it? Can you remember your name?" and replies "Joker" in the same broken, adult voice we've already heard as The Joker from the previous sequence and starts cackling manically and offs the medic in real life, as the child who is revealed to be a girl all along whose name is actually Jacqueline Napier on the board above the bed in hospital. Credits roll.
Movie is scaled so that we run through it all till the last 15 minutes in the kids time dilated mind and then we run it backwards from waking up in the hospital to the first scene but this time you see all the things the kid was reading as cues for their own story as the source material. The medic is shining light in their eyes, checking vitals as the child wakes up and they say "Do you know here you are? What day is it? Can you remember your name?" and replies "Joker" in the same broken, adult voice we've already heard as The Joker from the previous sequence and starts cackling manically and offs the medic in real life, as the child who is revealed to be a girl all along whose name is actually Jacqueline Napier on the board above the bed in hospital. Credits roll.
Moment become a lifetime. A lifetime in moments in a nutshell but the true skill of the tale is how both of these halves weave together because the end is when the story really begins as the sequel sees Jack on the run, maturing, rising to power and coming up against a much older, weary, painkiller addicted, barely functional "I'm too old for this ish" Batman who then freaks out at the mirrored inversion of his own trauma being manifest as Joker and becomes steadily more and more unhinged which leads to Batman losing his own grip on sanity and wondering why he can't beat Jack, no matter what he tries.
What happens in the third installment would blow your mind to shreds but I doubt the IP owners would let Batman get quite as dark as I envision but in a nutshell its all about polarity, equal and opposite reactions along with the definition of character, the nature of the psyche and many other bits and pieces I haven't even pondered yet but thats a quick outline as inspired by this thread.
Golly I'm gully...
Think about it, and old decrepit Bruce Wayne up against a young black girl Joker who is the exact inverse of him in every respect would be a trilogy of legend because the above is just chapter one and three flips the first two on its head once the punch line kicks in. A ha ha ha!
Lord_nikon
Veteran
I need to watch again
Devilinurear
Veteran
Horrendously dull. Pattinson sucked. Nolan got it right
Klawstrider
Damn
Loved the detective element, Catwoman, Turturro, and horror aspects with Riddler. A little bit of steam lost near the end, but recovers well enough.
I prefer the more fantastical Batman (Bat Family, villains with powers) and did not like the Nolan trilogy, so I was pleasantly surprised with how much I enjoyed Matt Reeves' take.
I prefer the more fantastical Batman (Bat Family, villains with powers) and did not like the Nolan trilogy, so I was pleasantly surprised with how much I enjoyed Matt Reeves' take.
Taadow
The StarchBishop™️
It was average to me.
I peeped...The Agenda. And it was really trying to wedge it into Batman Lore.
Still it was okay, I didn't hate it.
But I liked Batman Vs. Superman, so do with that what you will.
I peeped...The Agenda. And it was really trying to wedge it into Batman Lore.
Still it was okay, I didn't hate it.
But I liked Batman Vs. Superman, so do with that what you will.
Voted really good, it's one of favourite interpretations of Batman, I can't wait to see where Matt Reeves goes next with this
After the Dark Knight Trilogy (Christian Bale), I was certain I'd never see another cool batman again. 
The enters Ben Affleck, oh f**k, this is going to suk
Damn, if I wasn't wrong, thought he did a fantastic job and loved his time as Batman
THEN..they bring in this Robert Pattinson guy..wasn't he in those awful twilight movies?
I hit the pause that time though and realized I was wrong about Affleck and was going to trust they knew what they were doing and going with this
Gawd damn, it was awesome IMHO, one of the best
The enters Ben Affleck, oh f**k, this is going to suk
Damn, if I wasn't wrong, thought he did a fantastic job and loved his time as Batman
THEN..they bring in this Robert Pattinson guy..wasn't he in those awful twilight movies?
I hit the pause that time though and realized I was wrong about Affleck and was going to trust they knew what they were doing and going with this
Gawd damn, it was awesome IMHO, one of the best
Mid as fukk, boring piece of shyt.
Had some really dope elements going for it, so the potential was there, but it just couldn't deliver. Cinematography and score were good, as well as the noir detective vibe. The thing is they fumbled the execution. Movie was long for no reason, had no good villain, and the ending action sequence was a dud.
To make the detective angle work, they need to use the right villain. Killer croc would have been perfect as a guy Batman hunts down following murder victim clues, etc... Instead the plot they had was your standard terrorist shyt with a bunch of other bullshyt they crammed in there. Movie tried to be too many things.
I'd watch a sequel, tho cuz it did get some shyt right.
Had some really dope elements going for it, so the potential was there, but it just couldn't deliver. Cinematography and score were good, as well as the noir detective vibe. The thing is they fumbled the execution. Movie was long for no reason, had no good villain, and the ending action sequence was a dud.
To make the detective angle work, they need to use the right villain. Killer croc would have been perfect as a guy Batman hunts down following murder victim clues, etc... Instead the plot they had was your standard terrorist shyt with a bunch of other bullshyt they crammed in there. Movie tried to be too many things.
I'd watch a sequel, tho cuz it did get some shyt right.
$cam-U-Well_Jack$on
Superstar
Solid.
DaddyFresh
Superstar
that score still get my dikk hard n/hThat score is nuts!
