Was Stone Cold wrong for refusing to work with Jeff Jarrett?

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Steve was 100% wrong... and Vince was wrong for letting him call those kind of shots.... due to this Austin refused the hogan match and ultimately walked out on the company becausehe was allowedto feel himself on that level. We never got stone cold vs Goldberg because of this

I can't picture Steve selling Hulk Hulking up... Especially after a Stunner :russ:
 

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Nah. Double J promo fell flat




So who was the drug addict and black man that couldn't speak English? :mjpls:


First off, I didn’t even know this promo existed. I don’t remember ever seeing it.

That being said, didn’t even hear the Austin reference. I just skipped around. Too long and the crowd was a combination of :russell::snoop::beli: and of course :martin:

Man that ol’ “worked shoot promo from newly signed or returning wrestler from rival company” shyt does Not work for everyone

I heard (and watched for) that groan at the Black Man reference tho. That being said…had to be my man Ahmed Johnson :mjlol:
 
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When Austin was at his peak in 98-99 you can count on one hand the number of PPV matches he lost clean, the only one I can think of off the top of my head was Summerslam 1999, and even that was only because he refused to drop the belt to Triple H at the exact same event.

That said, as the biggest, most popular and most profitable star in the company he was absolutely within his right to refuse working with Jarrett; the only person it would benefit would be Jarrett by virtue of being in a feud with someone far above him who had nothing to benefit from it. Nobody would ever believe Jarrett was on the same level as Austin, so Austin winning the feud would have done absolutely nothing for him

In WWF Jarrett was always and forever would be a mid-carder for life and the only time anyone gave a fukk about him was when he was smashing guitars on women every week. If Austin had a programme with Jarrett It would have been like when The Rock feuded with Billy Gunn only far more pointless, because a) Billy Gunn had main event potential, and b) it was his first proper singles push so they were trying shyt out. They fukked up putting him on the mic against one of the greatest talkers in the business who basically ended his entire singles career with one promo, then Edge did the same thing again two years later. Jarrett had singles push after singles push multiple times over multiple stints in the company and every single time it flopped. There’s a reason for that.
 

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I was done with WCW after I kept hearing this two to three times a Nitro.





I mean, it was personal on Austin's part. Clearly. At the same time, if this

“Keep staring at that check, ain’t gonna make it any bigger” - Jeff Jarrett to Steve back in the day.

Is true, Austin didn't do anything I wouldn't and it should have been personal. There isn't enough "business" in the world for me to work with you if you cross that line, especially when I now have the power. In business, you have to be mindful of how you treat and talk to people. You never know who's going to be standing on which side of the table down the line.
 

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Same way they were planning to have him feud with Mero but then had him lose to Sable with his own finisher. Why would the Champ go with that program?
 

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Yeah I'm an Austin stan but it's clear dude was probably a pain to work with at times. Even Vince has said Austin is the toughest star he's had to deal with...and he's had to deal with Hulk Hogan.

Now obviously, Jeff Jarrett had a peak and was never going to be a major star, so it's not some striking indictment that Austin didn't want to work with him. But I'm sure Austin's attitude rubbed people the wrong way many times.

This isn't as justified as him refusing to job to Brock on a random RAW though. He had every right to save creative from their fukking selves with that decision.

Nothing wrong with the company's top star trying to use creative control. That's what they should all do. You look at the talent today and they all just meekly accept any trash angle they're given.

Obviously there's people like Hogan and HHH who go a step too far with the backstage politics. But I never got the sense that Austin behaved that way. He was a "pain to work with" only so far as he'd push back on bad ideas like feuding with Jarrett. If anything, Rock didn't use his power enough and did too many jobs.

Thing is, are you going to replace Austin feuding with Vince, Rock, Taker or HHH in 99 for Jarrett? And yeah them Taker matches got repetitive, but in terms of business it would be insane to pick Jarrett over Taker. Austin and Taker did Raw's highest ever rating.

Jarrett's ceiling was getting a random stunner on Raw.
 

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Nothing wrong with the company's top star trying to use creative control. That's what they should all do. You look at the talent today and they all just meekly accept any trash angle they're given.

Obviously there's people like Hogan and HHH who go a step too far with the backstage politics. But I never got the sense that Austin behaved that way. He was a "pain to work with" only so far as he'd push back on bad ideas like feuding with Jarrett. If anything, Rock didn't use his power enough and did too many jobs.

Thing is, are you going to replace Austin feuding with Vince, Rock, Taker or HHH in 99 for Jarrett? And yeah them Taker matches got repetitive, but in terms of business it would be insane to pick Jarrett over Taker. Austin and Taker did Raw's highest ever rating.

Jarrett's ceiling was getting a random stunner on Raw.
According to Wikipedia:
In June 1995, Austin was fired by Bischoff after suffering a triceps injury while wrestling on a Japanese tour—Bischoff and WCW did not see Austin as a marketable wrestler.[3][40] Additionally, Bischoff thought Austin was hard to work with.
Don't know how true that is though. It is Wikipedia. :manny:
 

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Why would the protege of flair.
Work with the nepotism based replacement for flair?

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