Was King Tut Black or Arabic?

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15 BC they spread everywhere

6000 White skin in the Caucasus

5000 Sumer in the Levant

* note that Egypt and Ethiopia had a huge presence in the Levant

2500 Indo-Europeans (Whites) in the Levant

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Humans were already as far away from Africa as australia 50,000 years ago. The fukk are you talking about.
 
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This is the link you gave me..just a bunch of photos of dark skinned Arabs, and you're calling these people black..if I went to the Middle East and i told them they were black they would be offended..I don't care if you posted some 19th century paintings of african men who's families a few generations back descended from Africa..that doesn't make them Arab..



Some men from the region of Tihamah




Bedouin from the Ammarin clan of the Banu Attiyeh, a large clan originally from Jordan, northwest Saudi Arabia and southern Palestine

Many of the bedouin of Palestine, Jordan and north Arabia in general retain their ancient Arab looks and customs. Such tribes, once known as the confederation of "Qidar" or "Kedar" spread between southern Mesopotamia and Central Arabia, often still dwell in their black tents made of goat skin.


First of all, whether or not they would be offended or considered them black now is irrelevant. Because of the evil of white supremacy that has spread across the globe, many people of black ancestry have been forced to distance themselves from blackness and their roots. Also why do you ignore the SECOND important part of all those quotes. The pure arab is described as having black skin and kinky hair. To me if you saw someone with black skin and kinky hair, you'd assume they were black.

Race is a social construct, so I'm not here to argue the original arabs would be black under some objective universal standard. All I'm saying is here in America, they'd be considered black. And the pictures I posted are of European painters painting pictures of what they considered Arabs. Don't blame me or begin theorizing about where they came from.

Ask yourself, why would europeans paint Arabs as black if that is not who they met when they traveled to north africa or arabia?
 

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@Swagnificent you understand that the Arab slave trade has existed for like over a 1000 years..maybe more maybe less..but those paintings that you posted prob came from slave stock..maybe not..all I'm saying is that Arabs differentiated between blacks in the slave trade for a 1000 years..it wasn't like " oh lets go kidnap arabs" no..it was like it was like "lets go take some black ass Africans"
If the Arabs were really black they would have Arab slaves and not black slaves..they saw a difference between the the two..

Arabs never thought like that. It was just Muslim people enslaving non Muslim people. Do you know Somalis, Swahili's and other Muslim Africans had an alliance with Arabs and the Ottomans while the Christian Ethiopians had an alliance with the Portuguese. There was no... "lets go take some black ass Africans". Also Arabs had to get through other Muslim Africans to even get slaves...
 

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Arabs never thought like that. It was just Muslim people enslaving non Muslim people. Do you know Somalis, Swahili's and other Muslim Africans had an alliance with Arabs and the Ottomans while the Christian Ethiopians had an alliance with the Portuguese. There was no... "lets go take some black ass Africans". Also Arabs had to get through other Muslim Africans to even get slaves...

Why are all the slaves sub Saharan looking,,matter of fact all the slaves come from sub Sahara..yes sub Sahara is non Muslim....but the fact that they're non Muslim has nothing to do with them enslaving black Africans..they're giving them choices,,convert or be an infidel and be a slave..they're not enslaving North Africans because Arabs control North Africa
 
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@Swagnificent you understand that the Arab slave trade has existed for like over a 1000 years..maybe more maybe less..but those paintings that you posted prob came from slave stock..maybe not..all I'm saying is that Arabs differentiated between blacks in the slave trade for a 1000 years..it wasn't like " oh lets go kidnap arabs" no..it was like "lets go take some black ass Africans"

If the Arabs were really black they would have Arab slaves and not black slaves..they saw a difference between the the two..

wtf r u talking about? people have enslaved those of the same ethnic group. this idea that slavery is just meant for the inferior other is a recent phenomenon of the chattel slavery culture of the Americas. The Greeks and Romans kept slaves from all over the world, including other Europeans. They were not treated better because they were both white.

And where do you get this idea that Arabs only enslaved black Africans? The Arab slave trade is famous for the fact that they enslaved many EUROPEANS. The world Slave itself comes from the word Slav for the slavic peoples of eastern europe who were among the most favored in the arab slave trade. White women from europe were kept as concubines by the Moors who ruled over Spain for 700 years.

Stop assuming history falls in line with your racist preconceptions and actually open up a book and read. You'll be surprised to learn that history is not as you presume.
 

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wtf r u talking about? people have enslaved those of the same ethnic group. this idea that slavery is just meant for the inferior other is a recent phenomenon of the chattel slavery culture of the Americas. The Greeks and Romans kept slaves from all over the world, including other Europeans. They were not treated better because they were both white.

And where do you get this idea that Arabs only enslaved black Africans? The Arab slave trade is famous for the fact that they enslaved many EUROPEANS. The world Slave itself comes from the word Slav for the slavic peoples of eastern europe who were among the most favored in the arab slave trade. White women from europe were kept as concubines by the Moors who ruled over Spain for 700 years.

Stop assuming history falls in line with your racist preconceptions and actually open up a book and read. You'll be surprised to learn that history is not as you presume.

:salute: Arabs were still slaving Europeans during the damn American Revolution and Civil War.
 

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Why are all the slaves sub Saharan looking,,matter of fact all the slaves come from sub Sahara..yes sub Sahara is non Muslim....but the fact that they're non Muslim has nothing to do with them enslaving black Africans..they're giving them choices,,convert or be an infidel and be a slave..they're not enslaving North Africans because Arabs control North Africa

they took more white slaves than black
 
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Why are all the slaves sub Saharan looking,,matter of fact all the slaves come from sub Sahara..yes sub Sahara is non Muslim....but the fact that they're non Muslim has nothing to do with them enslaving black Africans..they're giving them choices,,convert or be an infidel and be a slave..they're not enslaving North Africans because Arabs control North Africa


What does that have to do with Muslim Africans vs Non Muslim Africans??? And what the heck is "Sub Sahara looking?" Elaborate?

Again it was Muslim AFRICANS enslaving and selling non Muslim Africans to Arabs. There was no Arab enslavement of Africans by Arabs. The only Africans who got conquered by "Arabs" was North Africa(Northwest) because the population was:
1 wide spread
2. Sparsely populated

And yes Arabs tried to conquer/enslave North Africans. They failed with North Sudan area, but succeeded with Northwest Africa for the reasons I listed. n

This Arabs conquering and enslaving Africans is highly exaggerated.
 
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Why are all the slaves sub Saharan looking,,matter of fact all the slaves come from sub Sahara..yes sub Sahara is non Muslim....but the fact that they're non Muslim has nothing to do with them enslaving black Africans..they're giving them choices,,convert or be an infidel and be a slave..they're not enslaving North Africans because Arabs control North Africa

what on gods green earth are u talking about? once again open up a book and read about history not just assume what history is based on racist preconceptions fostered by living in a nation founded on white supremacy.

the slave trade in north africa is widely known for having the most white slaves moved through the region than anywhere outside europe. the Moors and Arabs in north africa were known for having a taste for white european p*ssy as concubines. there are countless books on this topic. open one up and then speak to me.
 

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wtf r u talking about? people have enslaved those of the same ethnic group. this idea that slavery is just meant for the inferior other is a recent phenomenon of the chattel slavery culture of the Americas. The Greeks and Romans kept slaves from all over the world, including other Europeans. They were not treated better because they were both white.

And where do you get this idea that Arabs only enslaved black Africans? The Arab slave trade is famous for the fact that they enslaved many EUROPEANS. The world Slave itself comes from the word Slav for the slavic peoples of eastern europe who were among the most favored in the arab slave trade. White women from europe were kept as concubines by the Moors who ruled over Spain for 700 years.

Stop assuming history falls in line with your racist preconceptions and actually open up a book and read. You'll be surprised to learn that history is not as you presume.

What does that have to do with Muslim Africans vs Non Muslim Africans??? And what the heck is "Sub Sahara looking?" Elaborate?

Again it was Muslim AFRICANS enslaving and selling non Muslim Africans to Arabs. There was no Arab enslavement of Africans by Arabs. The only Africans who got conquered by "Arabs" was North Africa(Northwest) because the population was:
1 wide spread
2. Sparsely populated

And yes Arabs tried to conquer/enslave North Africans. They failed with North Sudan area, but succeeded with Northwest Africa for the reasons I listed. n

This Arabs conquering and enslaving Africans is highly exaggerated.

@Swagnificent that has nothing to do with what I said..I said if the Arabs made a distinction between black and Arab because they were enslaving sub Saharan Africans and not their own people..

@KidStranglehold no it's not highly exaggerated..the Arabs have enslaved close to 50 million Africans ..I wouldn't call that exaggeration
 
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:salute: Arabs were still slaving Europeans during the damn American Revolution and Civil War.

they took more white slaves then black

yes. and specifically white women. it seems even back then brothas had a thang for PAWGs. there's tons of pictures I posted a few weeks back in that thread about the Moors which showed the Moorish bath houses. naked white women were kept there as part of the sultans harem. the leaders in those pictures were potrayed as black.
 

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@Swagnificent that has nothing to do with what I said..I said if the Arabs made a distinction between black and Arab because they were enslaving sub Saharan Africans and not their own people..

@KidStranglehold no it's not highly exaggerated..the Arabs have enslaved close to 50 million Africans ..I wouldn't call that exaggeration

Source? Or you're pulling sh*t out your ass. Most of the slaves during that time were Europeans and they didn't even come close to that number.

Heck not even the Atlantic Slave trade had those numbers!!!! And it was more organized and financed.

Please stop talking on subjects you are less informative on.
 
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