was Joel a good guy or bad guy in The Last of Us
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He was a human.
#deepthoughts
#deepthoughts
He wasn't worse than this neg.
Well he was a good guy in the short term, but a bad guy in the long term. He let his emotions fukk with saving the world. He saved a child, but potentially doomed humanity. He was myopic.
BasedPrime
Xbox Woe
He was a bytchmade fakkit. Carrying ladders and pallets for little girls 
NZA
LOL
he was so mentally damaged that it is pointless to judge him. he's really the only protagonist with PTSD that i can remember playing with.
One of the goat games b
fukk that dooming humanity bullshyt. Like I would let my child die to save this fukked up world
Joell can be coined a bad guy for not making the choice to give up Ellie, but humanity was already in a shythole for 20 years. Hell Ellie wasn't even a guaranteed method of cure.
And if those surgeons and Marlene ended up with a cure and could mass produce it...humans are difficult as fukk and make everything political. The Fireflies would have HUGE pull in the US, and they already were taking L's in their war with the FEDRA, so I doubt that shyt would go smoothly. The Hunters in Pittsburgh were straight up savages, fukk saving them nikkas.
To think Ellie would be sacrificed and the world would be fixed is crazy optimistic breh.
From a cold-blooded standpoint a slight chance is worth it.Joell can be coined a bad guy for not making the choice to give up Ellie, but humanity was already in a shythole for 20 years. Hell Ellie wasn't even a guaranteed method of cure.
And if those surgeons and Marlene ended up with a cure and could mass produce it...humans are difficult as fukk and make everything political. The Fireflies would have HUGE pull in the US, and they already were taking L's in their war with the FEDRA, so I doubt that shyt would go smoothly. The Hunters in Pittsburgh were straight up savages, fukk saving them nikkas.
To think Ellie would be sacrificed and the world would be fixed is crazy optimistic breh.
But if it's my child, I'd find it very hard to do.
It shoulda been her choice, but then again she was young and not fully capable of making decisions.
shyt's a tough call. That's why the story was so good. There's really no right answer here.
gambinomakeitwrk
Royalty
Pretty sure people went over this with you multiple times on your SkillClash account
but
but
Fireflies didn't even ask Ellie if she would give up her life. Marlene got her prepped for surgery while knocked out cold when she was forced by her peers.
If Joel was a selfish bad guy the Fireflies are just as bad. They even wanted him dead after delivering Ellie.Cure would have done nothing. 60% of humanity gone and society was way too fragmented for the cure to go full scale. Tommy's establishment also shows that they didn't really need it anyway.
iamstr8fire
Apex Predator
This.
I think the point of the story was to prove that morality is very relative to ones situation.
A "good guy" may do "bad guy" things if the situation dictates it.
A "good guy" may do "bad guy" things if the situation dictates it.