Was hip-hop ever truly dead?

[Ronnie Lott]

Its pretty fukking dead right now, as far as what's being pushed, you will always be able to find dope hip hop but the radio and media ain't playing a part in it they trying to shove trash like young thug lil Uzi savage and yatchy down your throat, claiming that's what is hot, it may be hot to some people but it damn sure ain't hip hop, for every 20 trash rappers that drop trash projects there's a below the heavens by an unknown and sometimes we find that needle in the haystack

How the fukk is hip hop dead just because YOU don't like certain rappers

 

[thekingsmen]

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I always say 96 was the last by and large pure year.

96 was the year that really sent mainstream rap into the mass commercial realm on a larger level






but by the later 90's, you had the underground, Rawkus records for example to balance it out.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Theres no more variety on the mainstream level. Rappers strived to sound different called out for biting. So I that respect a certain part of hip hop is dead becuz the whole point is to be competitive and one up the person before you. You cant do that if you wanna sound just like him

 

[mobbinfms]

96 was the year that really sent mainstream rap into the mass commercial realm on a larger level






but by the later 90's, you had the underground, Rawkus records for example to balance it out.

There was an underground scene in 96.
Roots, Boot Camp, De La.
And I agree that 96 saw Bone, Pac and Fugees blow sky high, but the music was still by and large pure. The next year was shiny suit and it was clear things had changed, even then you still had CNN and Flush. It was a more gradual change of course, but if I had to put a line in the sand, that line is 97.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

There was an underground scene in 96.
Roots, Boot Camp, De La.

yes and no. For some reason I never thought of those as underground, especially not Roots and De La. I just thought of them as alternative but semi mainstream.

And I agree that 96 saw Bone, Pac and Fugees blow sky high, but the music was still by and large pure.

it was pure when you look at what followed in the shiny suit era but it was more commercial than the majority of hiphop in either of it's 2 golden eras

The next year was shiny suit and it was clear things had changed, even then you still had CNN and Flush. It was a more gradual change of course, but if I had to put a line in the sand, that line is 97.

yea, 96 started it...97 took it to the next nevel and then 98/99 took it up another notch. Docu below was from 1999





2004 (time stamped)

 

[Pop123]

Yes, when yall let this guy run it for 10 years


Look at him, listen to his voice, yall jacked this dude,